Japanese Academic Locked Up In Australia

[Mulboyne]

Yahoo: Concern grows for detained Japanese academic
Academics in Australia and Japan are becoming extremely concerned about the deteriorating health of a Japanese PhD student who has now been in immigrant detention in Sydney for almost two months. Megumi Ogawa has degrees from two top Japanese universities and wrote a book on broadcasting law that won high praise from a former chief justice of Australia's High Court. But her promising law career went off the rails when she had a dispute with a supervisor at Melbourne University. Ms Megumi is suing the university and the Department of Immigration, which recently decided her visa was not valid...more...

Statement on Megumi Ogawa by the National Liaison Committee for International Students in Australia.

[kurohinge1]

You can read transcripts of some of her previous Court appearances, where she represented herself, as follows:

1. Re University of Melbourne & Ors Ex parte: Ogawa [2004] HCATrans 565 (9 December 2004)
   
2. Ogawa v The University of Melbourne [2005] HCATrans 59 (11 February 2005)
   
3. Ogawa, An application by [2005] HCATrans 460 (29 July 2005)
   
4. Ogawa, An application by [2005] HCATrans 607 (15 August 2005)

It's kind of like watching a punter trying to perform heart surgery on themselves.

I also suspect that if she spent on a lawyer half as much as she's spent on filing fees for useless applications herself, she would know what, if anything, she should be doing.

[Mulboyne]

You can read transcripts of some of her previous Court appearances, where she represented herself, as follows:

1. Re University of Melbourne & Ors Ex parte: Ogawa [2004] HCATrans 565 (9 December 2004)
   
2. Ogawa v The University of Melbourne [2005] HCATrans 59 (11 February 2005)
   
3. Ogawa, An application by [2005] HCATrans 460 (29 July 2005)
   
4. Ogawa, An application by [2005] HCATrans 607 (15 August 2005)

It's kind of like watching a punter trying to perform heart surgery on themselves.

They are indeed painful to read. The stenographer worked hard to produce a Japanese flavour in the third transcript you list:

HIS HONOUR: I understand that, but that presents two problems.

MS OGAWA: Yes.

HIS HONOUR: Problem No 1 is, if you are entitled to commence again in the Federal Court, on the view that Justice Hayne has given there is already an order for pro bono assistance in that court and, therefore, to make an order again would be futile and if it is futile you are not entitled to mandamus because there is no duty in a public official to do things that are futile or unnecessary.

MS OGAWA: .....

[fatslug]

poor bitch !

hope things work out for her

[Charles]

poor bitch !

hope things work out for her

Unlikely. If she wins her case, she'll still be in Australia.

[kurohinge1]

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[Taro Toporific]

Yahoo: Concern grows for detained Japanese academic
.... her promising law career went off the rails when she had a dispute with a supervisor at Melbourne University. Ms Megumi is suing the university and the Department of Immigration, which recently decided her visa was not valid...more...

Ok, ok, what the hell were the "supervision problems" that started this whole mess?!:confused: Something sounds real fishy here. Either the "supervisor" in question was some lazy pervert who didn't complete Megumi's paperwork (sekurara?).... <OR> Megumi is some kind of retard who couldn't complete her coursework on time because she is totally intellectually unable to handle law in English (a typical problem for Japanese students studying law who take 6+ years to complete a 2-3 year English law program, if ever).

Statement on Megumi Ogawa by the National Liaison Committee for International Students in Australia.In early November 2002, Ms Ogawa applied for a six months extension of her candidature and scholarships based on[U] supervision problems[/U] she had encountered. This would have normally have been granted as a matter of course. However, during the course of negotiations to resolve the supervision problems, it would seem that a decision was made to effectively terminate her candidature. ...

[dimwit]

Ok, ok, what the hell were the "supervision problems" that started this whole mess?!:confused: Something sounds real fishy here. Either the "supervisor" in question was some lazy pervert who didn't complete Megumi's paperwork (sekurara?).... <OR> Megumi is some kind of retard who couldn't complete her coursework on time because she is totally intellectually unable to handle law in English (a typical problem for Japanese students studying law who take 6+ years to complete a 2-3 year English law program, if ever).

The latter seems to be the case.

[quote]Background facts
1 Ms Ogawa is a citizen of Japan. She was born in Japan on 24 October 1967. In 1991 Ms Ogawa graduated in law from the Waseda University. From 1991 to 1999 she was employed in Japan. From 1996 to 1998 Ms Ogawa received relatively small amounts of income while engaged full time in a master's degree. She completed her master's thesis in 1999 and held a full time paid position for a few months until coming to Australia.

2 Ms Ogawa entered Australia on 24 November 1999 to commence studies for a Doctor of Philosophy degree (“]

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:_h7A7DPQzhAJ:au.findlaw.com/cases/caseRTF.asp%3Fid%3D199435

[Charles]

The latter seems to be the case.

Not really. Look at the time line, they pulled her visa after 4 years in oz. That would be a fairly short time to go from an MA to a PhD. I suspect the problem lies with the University.

[ararara]

[amdg]

Can someone say 'Querulant/Litigious Paranoia'?

Strangely enough (or maybe not), this state of mental impairment is the fate of not a few FG's in Japan - for example, 'A.D.' seems to be headed that way sometimes. It usually starts from some real or imagined (very often real) injustice at the hands of an authority and progresses in a downward spiral from there to a severe and debilitating persectution complex. It doesn't take much to push some people over the edge. I bet that the root cause was that the Uni (my old uni in fact) did do something careless like leave her without a supervisor for a month or two, and she couldn't cope - understandably for a Japanese woman. But now its become some major High Court drama.

Key signs to look for in a QP:
- keeps detailed notes on everything, with extensive marginalia.
- usually represents self in court.
- has a law degree or a vast knowledge of and interest in law.
- complaints always list multiple defendants.
- is a fucking crazy ass ho but can appear to be very reasonable on a good day.

Difficult to deal with people like this because the relief she's looking for in the courts is something that the courts can't give her. Whether she wins or loses, she'll start on the road towards becoming a professional litigant which is an expensive hobby even by Japanese standards.
Perhaps Melb Uni should just suck it up and issue a formal apology, in writing, and assign a pro bono lawyer to her immigration case.

[Big Booger]

Who's on first?
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/humor4.shtml

[Tsuru]

You got to love our countries sometimes... What a way of making educated, productive immigrants, even from other western countries feel unwelcome if things don't turn out as planned. Chuck them in a detention centre together with all the drugs smugglers, illegal hookers and general lowlife scum that makes up the better part of the population in such "centres".

Here they even lock families with young children in those prisons, and my J-fiancé too if she doesn't get out of the country in time, even though she volunteers at the local old-people's home and studies harder than me just to master my native language... it's shit like this that makes me want to just take my engineering degree, naturalise to a Canadian or a Kiwi and deposit my coveted Dutch passport in the embassy postbox, attached to a nice note saying if they won't even let her stay, I don't really feel like staying either.

FFS even Americans and citizens from other EU nations have a hard time settling in this fucking country, even if they want to do something here because they actually like to, like doing actual work or even bring a big bag of money to study here... universities nationwide and companies looking for skilled people are already feeling the pain of these immigration measures, not to mention it's killing our reputation. The Dutch themselves are leaving in droves for the UK, Belgium and Germany in the meantime.

And even then we're making the world's headlines by allowing a party for pedophiles to run for elections. I've been considering leaving for a long time but it seems they're just driving me harder and harder to just go ahead and do it... even living in Nagoya seems more appealing every week.

Fuck this shit.

</general rant>

[dimwit]

Can someone say 'Querulant/Litigious Paranoia'?

Key signs to look for in a QP:
- keeps detailed notes on everything, with extensive marginalia.
- usually represents self in court.
- has a law degree or a vast knowledge of and interest in law.
- complaints always list multiple defendants.
- is a fucking crazy ass ho but can appear to be very reasonable on a good day.

The fact that her adviser wouldn't talk to her without a witness present is a pretty good indication that the university figured out that it stepped into a bear trap. I wonder why she transfered from the University of Queenland?

[amdg]

The fact that her adviser wouldn't talk to her without a witness present is a pretty good indication that the university figured out that it stepped into a bear trap. I wonder why she transfered from the University of Queenland?

I was thinking the exact same things. If it becomes more interesting I might call up a few contacts I have there and find out what they know about it.

[kurohinge1]

[SIZE="3"]Deportation looms for gifted law student[/SIZE]

Megumi Ogawa was detained in May after a long-running battle with the Department of Immigration and the University of Melbourne, which discontinued her enrolment in the late stages of her PhD because she was 21 days late in applying for an extension to her candidature.

. . . Ms Ogawa's last hope of remaining in Australia to complete her studies is an injunction today but, after months confined in Villawood and years of failed appeals, she is not holding out much hope.

. . . A spokesman for the Department of Immigration said Ms Ogawa had pursued and exhausted the legal avenues that were available to her . . . more

[kurohinge1]

[SIZE="3"]Japanese student seeks Australian asylum[/SIZE]

A Japanese PhD student has applied for asylum in Australia, even though she says she has no fear of the Japanese government.

Megumi Ogawa, who has been studying in Australia since 1999, was due to be deported to Japan after her student visa expired and she failed in several legal actions seeking to stay here.

But following her extraordinary application for asylum, her deportation has been delayed while the department of immigration assesses it.

Immigration department spokesman Sandi Logan said: "We are in a position to confirm that she has applied for protection.

"At this time, as a result of her application for protection, Ms Ogawa will not be removed from Australia," Mr Logan told ABC radio.

The assessment may take up to 90 days.

In a further bizarre twist, Ms Ogawa says she would go back to Japan voluntarily if she could first return to her home in Brisbane to put her affairs in order . . . more

I think an asylum is a good idea for this lady - and a nice white jacket, with wrap-around sleeves!



] . . . Ms Ogawa says she has no fear of the Japanese government . . .[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="6"]"You will be . . .
You will be"[/SIZE]

[rooboy]

The royal treatment overseas even as their country denies foreigners legal rights and legal protection in the real sense of the word after living in Japan legally and paying to support their tottering system.

Not one Japanese I have met has questioned the things I've told them about my lack of rights as a tax paying foreigner in Japan. No Japanese has to carry an 'alien card' in Oz at all times under threat of detention.

With the booming (the only thing that's booming in Oz) industry in getting Asians to come and study in Oz, many institutions bend over backwards for them. I don't feel sorry for this chick - she's just another mentally ill Japanese who can't cut the demands of living outside her safe, cosy Nippon.

Her mental problems are not Aussie's responsibility. Oz is more tolerant than non Aussies on these forums think. I don't think most countries in the world and especially not Japan allow schizophrenics who are gonna be a drain until they die on the public purse to take legal action against the Oz Government and stay on for life.

That's happened. Yep, there are Aussies the same but they were born in Oz. They'd have jack chance of rocking up to just about any foreign country and proclaiming their right to stay including using the legal system at taxpayer's expense.

This Jp chick is another "You owe me". I hope Immigration deport her arse from Oz asap.

[GomiGirl]

The study in Oz programs are booming for sure but the students pay through the nose... they are full fee paying international students who are cash cows for the institutions.

What I noticed about this case, is that this chick missed a deadline for submitting some documents. Sorry babe but you snooze, you lose.

[Mulboyne]

I think amdg's analysis of Ogawa sounds about right. What is also feeding her sense of paranoia is the fact that a couple of things do seem to have been mishandled along the way as the judge in her last case pointed out:

Mr Scarlett criticised the Migration Review Tribunal and immigration department for the way they handled the case. The tribunal took such a long time to decide not to cancel Ms Ogawa's student visa that by the time it did, the visa had run out. Then a ministerial delegate declared Ms Ogawa's application for ministerial intervention "withdrawn", when she had only intended to defer it, which was "both peremptory and high-handed", Mr Scarlett said on Friday.

She then seems to rattle on about these injustices in courts that have no jurisdiction over these issues. I can't really tell how much support she has but I'm willing to bet there's a large constituency who will be glad to see the back of her. I think it's also likely, though, that there are other people in the process who think that a deportation is probably the right outcome but wish that the process had been handled more competently so that she didn't have some justified complaints to feed her persecution complex.

[kurohinge1]

[SIZE="3"]PhD student charged over death threats[/SIZE]

[1 August 2006] A JAPANESE PhD student embroiled in a series of legal battles against her deportation has been charged after allegedly making telephone death threats to Federal Magistrates Court staff.
. . . Federal police confirmed the arrest last night. "The AFP will allege the 38-year-old Japanese national, from the Brisbane suburb of St Lucia, made the death threats during phone calls," it said in a statement.
"The AFP will also allege the woman harassed staff of the Federal Court with more than 150 phone calls."
Ogawa was refused bail to face Central Local Court today more

[SIZE="3"]And yesterday: Student bailed after threats to court[/SIZE]

[2 Aug 2006] A former PhD student who threatened to kill Federal Court judges and staff members in more than 100 abusive emails and phone calls has been granted bail.

Japanese national Megumi Ogawa, 39, was extradited from Sydney on Tuesday to face the Brisbane Magistrates Court on three counts of using a carriage service to menace.

The court was told between April 13-14 this year, Ogawa, who lists her address as St Lucia in Brisbane's inner-west, wrote 87 abusive emails to 40 people at the Federal Court of Australia, including judges, their associates and other staff members.

Prosecutor Roberta Devereaux told the Brisbane court on Wednesday the emails said: "I will kill people randomly.

"I know why Monash students shot people at Monash University. The court is so corrupted."

Ms Devereaux also said between April 14 and May 18 this year, Ogawa made 166 calls to the Federal Court staff threatening to kill them.

Magistrate Jim Herlihy granted her bail, on the condition she reside at St Lucia and not contact the Federal Court.

Her barrister Angelo Vasta said Ogawa was motivated to make the calls by a dispute with Melbourne University in relation to her PhD enrolment, which ended up in the Federal Court.

"These were utterances out of sheer frustration," Mr Vasta told the court.

"Nobody looking at these calls and the circumstances in which they were made, could take these threats seriously."

. . . Ogawa will reappear in the Brisbane Magistrates Court for mention on September 8 . . . more

[amdg]

The tribunal took such a long time to decide not to cancel Ms Ogawa's student visa that by the time it did, the visa had run out.

Very Dickensian.

[rooboy]

........................... But I've never made death threats to anybody and would expected to be booted out of Japan immediately arse over head the minute I did.

Why Ogawa 'Chan' is entitled to special treatment for her hysterical abuse of Australian telecommunications etc is really the usual feat of Japanese reasoning. What a bullshit artist here lawyer is.

Making death threats is a serious crime and looks like they've got all the concrete evidence they need. This chick is an arrogant fool and she'll be lucky not be given a prison sentence in Oz. Let her go and fuck up her own country.

I spose we'll next here of here slaughtering some poor Jp kid as seems to have been a trend lately among hysterical Jp females.......

[Taro Toporific]

.... she's just another mentally ill Japanese who can't cut the demands of living outside her safe, cozy Nippon...

Noooooo. You got it all wrong. Ogawa's "life would be in danger if she returned to Japan." TE][SIZE="3"]PhD student charged over death threats[/SIZE]
Ogawa ...on a temporary bridging visa. She was granted the visa while immigration officials considered a protection visa, which she lodged claiming her life would be in danger if she returned to Japan.[/QUOTE]

I would love to see the wording of the asylum petition she filed detailing exactly what was putting her her life in danger if she returned to Japan. Former law school classmates? Keitai electromagnetic waves? Alien anal probes?:theeye:

[kurohinge1]

. . . I would love to see the wording of the asylum petition she filed detailing exactly what was putting her her life in danger if she returned to Japan. Former law school classmates? Keitai electromagnetic waves? Alien anal probes?:theeye:

An anal probe would simply confirm that she's full of sh*t.

[Mulboyne]

A new twist. I was going to highlight certain passages but they'll surely have a greater effect if you just read the article and come upon them yourself.

Courier Mail: Japanese professor makes bizzare application

A JAPANESE law professor seeking asylum has made a bizarre bail application days after being found guilty of threatening to kill court officials. The Brisbane District Court has been told Megumi Ogawa, 41, sent a facsimile or email application to the Supreme Court asking bail before her sentencing hearing. District Court Judge Stuart Durward, SC, yesterday told prosecutor David Kent and Ogawa's latest barrister Paul Smith that Ogawa, who is currently being held in custody awaiting sentence, had personally made an application for bail despite being found guilty less than a week ago. Judge Durward charged Ogawa with contempt over her "abominable" behaviour in court in the lead up to and during her trial which concluded Thursday. Ogawa was charged with the latest offence as she sat screaming at the top of her lungs in Court 7 and struggling violently as Queensland Corrective Services staff tried to control her in the dock.

Mr Smith and the solicitor instructing him have agreed to represent Ogawa free of charge at the request and behest of the Queensland Law Society and Bar Association. Mr Smith said Ogawa wished to be sentenced this week and indicated she did not wish to be present during the hearing. Judge Durward said he would comply with Ogawa's request, but she would have to appear to have her sentence imposed. Ogawa is scheduled to be sentenced tomorrow. Ogawa has previously instructed and subsequently sacked countless solicitors and barristers. Judge Durward told Ogawa of the contempt charge within seconds of telling her a jury had found her guilty of two counts of using a carriage service - a telephone or Internet network - to harass and two counts of using it to threaten to kill Australian Federal Court officials. "Your conduct has been abominable,'' he said. Ogawa, 41, pleaded not guilty to all four charges.

During a seven-day trial Ogawa was tried in her absence because of her "appalling'' behaviour in court. Her behaviour included screaming loudly, claiming she was about to soil herself, exposing her buttocks while being dragged into court while handcuffed and demanding potential jurors help her because "white Australians (were) trying to kill'' her. Prosecutor David Kent told the jury she threatened to kill two court officers during a phone conversation with the associate of the Chief Justice of the Federal Court. The threats were made by Ogawa in 83 emails and 146 phone calls between April 12 and May 19, 2006. Ogawa, who had been studying in Australia since 1999, threatened to kill Federal Court employees Tim Conrad and Jane Musset. Judge Durward remanded Ogawa in custody for sentencing, which might be as early as next week. Before being remanded in custody Ogawa was an associate lecturer in law and justice at the Southern Cross University at Lismore.

[BO-SENSEI]

Trying for the insanity plea I see. They can all see this is an act, I wonder what the Japanese news says about this? Do they ignore it or do they think some poor Japanese lady is being tortured and mistreated in a foreign country?

[Greji]

[quote="kurohinge1"]An anal probe would simply confirm that she's full of sh*t.

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I thought you were her sponsor Kuro! Shouldn't you as her white knight, be riding to her rescue on your White Boomer to carry her off in the sunset where she can live happily ever after, free in Oz from all the polictical and judcial persucusion that Take and the flower people have levied upon her poor soul...

[kurohinge1]

I thought you were her sponsor Kuro! Shouldn't you as her white knight, be riding to her rescue on your White Boomer to carry her off in the sunset where she can live happily ever after, free in Oz from all the polictical and judcial persucusion that Take and the flower people have levied upon her poor soul...

She sounds like she's been driven completely loopy, Greji-san.

How long was she married to you?

[Greji]

:)

She sounds like she's been driven completely loopy, Greji-san.

How long was she married to you?

Not that long. She's just daffy 'cause I dropped her for Noriko....