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Postby sublight » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:16 am

Well, just saw the news on NHK. It's a boy.
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Postby Captain Japan » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:16 am

I would imagine that the uyoku trucks are getting gassed up right about now...
Princess Kiko gives birth to boy
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Princess Kiko gave birth to a baby boy Wednesday morning, the Imperial Household Agency said.

The boy was born at 8:27 a.m. and weighed 2,558 grams.

He was in good health, according to the Imperial Household Agency.

Princess Kiko remained in the operating room as of 9 a.m. Further details on her condition are expected shortly....more...
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Postby Greji » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:21 am

Captain Japan wrote:Princess Kiko gives birth to boy


Banzai, etc.
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:48 am

So, it's a boy... What a surprise! :roll:

Hopefully they come up with a better name than "love child" this time around.
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Postby ichigo partygirl » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:56 am

Wooo like that wasnt expected.....sigh...how boring and predictable.
Makes writing the last part of my thesis that much more boring and difficult as well......
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Strange

Postby canman » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:11 pm

I can't find any news about the birth of this child! What is up with the Japanese press, they are really falling down on this one. I thought for sure there would be nonstop coverage of this huge nonevent. I'm glad to see that the media is finally growing up!
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Postby CrankyBastard » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:26 pm

canman wrote:I can't find any news about the birth of this child! What is up with the Japanese press, they are really falling down on this one. I thought for sure there would be nonstop coverage of this huge nonevent. I'm glad to see that the media is finally growing up!


You need to move the dial.
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Postby Captain Japan » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:26 pm

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Postby canman » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:39 pm

Sorry Cranky, I was just trying to be sarcastic about all the coverage. It just won't end, and this is only the beginning. I guess Kiko-sama got what she wanted she is the top dog now.
I wonder what will happen to Masako-sama and Aiko-sama? Will there be some kind of mysteriesous explosion at the Imperial Palace?
I would love to see Masako-sama get pregnant now and have a boy, wouldn't throw a load of firecrackers into the fire.
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Postby baka tono » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:04 pm

The crown prince has probably spent the whole day gettin' busy with Masako since the news came out
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Postby CrankyBastard » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:51 am

canman wrote:Sorry Cranky, I was just trying to be sarcastic about all the coverage. It just won't end, and this is only the beginning.


Yes, I know.
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Postby akatsuka » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:10 am

Whats so bad about having an empress? surely japanese women cant be that bad..

I hope the laws still get changed. Aiko should be empress.

Sexism shouldnt exist today.
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Postby CrankyBastard » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:13 am

akatsuka wrote:Whats so bad about having an empress? surely japanese women cant be that bad..

I hope the laws still get changed. Aiko should be empress.

Sexism shouldnt exist today.


It does seem ridiculous, doesn't it?
I think it boils down to religious hokum pokum.
European kings are descendants of the chiefs of the war bands that invaded the late Roman Empire, mostly by land, although the English came by sea. Monarchs are therefore commanders-in-chief of their armed forces, barriers against military dictatorship. Since they no longer have to lead in person on the battlefield, a woman can do the job as well as a man. The Japanese emperor, however, is the hereditary high priest and symbolic lover of the Sun Goddess, Amaterasu Omikami, the mythical ancestress of all Japanese. Only the emperor is directly descended, father to son from the goddess, which makes him the living ancestor of all true Japanese, the head of the whole Japanese family. His prayers to the goddess are therefore thought to be more effective than those belonging to lesser branches of the divinely-descended nation.
The legend, brought with the cult of the goddess from Central Asia two thousand years ago, would have become an historical memory, except that every emperor is expected to re-enact it, once every reign, as part of his enthronement. At two a.m. in the morning (when the sun is absent from the sky) a new emperor, alone with the goddess in a temporary shrine lit by flickering candles, offers her a symbolic meal of rice from all over Japan, while female attendants stand at a respectful distance. These proceedings take place on what are officially described as "twin couch-thrones" but to a Western eye look remarkably like beds. At some point, according to legend, a divine essence passes from the goddess to the emperor, and hence to his male descendants, who are thus in a spiritual sense offspring of the goddess herself. Their human mothers and their female offspring are not thought to contribute anything to this mystical union of goddess and emperor.
So, while it could be possible to have an emperess, her "lying" with a goddess :love2: would have unacceptable undertones.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:03 am

CrankyBastard wrote:...The Japanese emperor, however, is the hereditary high priest and symbolic lover of the Sun Goddess, Amaterasu Omikami... as part of his enthronement. At two a.m. in the morning (when the sun is absent from the sky) a new emperor, alone with the goddess in a temporary shrine lit by flickering candles, offers her a symbolic meal of rice from all over Japan, while female attendants stand at a respectful distance. These proceedings take place on what are officially described as "twin couch-thrones" but to a Western eye look remarkably like beds. At some point, according to legend, a divine essence passes from the goddess to the emperor, and hence to his male descendants, who are thus in a spiritual sense offspring of the goddess herself...


The more interesting anthropological speculation is that "symbolic lover of the Sun Goddess, Amaterasu" is represented by the new emperor-to-be's mother and her son must pass the "divine essence" and that all the nubile female attendants aid in this copulation. :bukkake:.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:21 am

dimwit wrote:The next question is what will the name be.

My vote is for Taro.
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damn straight

Postby IkemenTommy » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 am

akatsuka wrote:Whats so bad about having an empress? surely japanese women cant be that bad..

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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:35 am

Japan has had an empress before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Suiko
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Postby Greji » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:47 am

akatsuka wrote:surely japanese women cant be that bad...


They are the greatest. They are wonderful, kind, sensitive and total sex machines and then you get married.......
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Postby American Oyaji » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:01 pm

I hope the Crown Prince knocks Masako up and SHE has a boy.
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Postby ichigo partygirl » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:13 pm

American Oyaji wrote:I hope the Crown Prince knocks Masako up and SHE has a boy.


Amen to that - you'd love Masako to come back and shove it in their faces - that would wipe the grin off little brothers face....hehe its the ultimate game of 'Dad im the favourite son'

Actually there has been 6 official empresses before, 2 of them reigned twice under different names (the most recent in the 18th century) and a couple of reputed Shamen Queens
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Postby (1VB)freels » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:16 pm

I'd hit it..... Twice to make sure!!!!
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Postby Captain Japan » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:35 pm

The insanity won't stop. They even want people to think that FGs care. This photo is a classic...
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Views on succession system remain split
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People were delighted Wednesday with the news that Princess Kiko, the wife of Prince Akishino, the Emperor's second son, gave birth to a boy Wednesday, but they remain divided over whether to revise the Imperial House Law to allow females to take the Chrysanthemum Throne.

"I'm glad the baby is healthy," said Yasuko Kurashige, who works at a souvenir stand near Nara Park in the ancient capital of Nara, home to some of the earliest emperors.

Kurashige said she was not surprised it was a boy.

"I think most Japanese have suspected for awhile that the baby would be a boy, especially last month, after some magazine reported that Prince Akishino told friends it would be," she said....more...

I don't recall ever seeing so much desperation and outright phonyness. The media really is out of control - and for absolutely nothing.
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Postby ichigo partygirl » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:47 pm

Captain Japan wrote:The insanity won't stop. They even want people to think that FGs care. This photo is a classic...
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I don't recall ever seeing so much desperation and outright phonyness. The media really is out of control - and for absolutely nothing.


This was a rather classic photo - gave me a chuckle. I wonder what those guys are really thinking??????~~~~ Ohhh Captain Japan it isnt for nothing...its to celebrate the boys club.........God did you expect anything less from the japanese media??????Are they shpwing 2-5hour documentaries on NHK yet??
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:51 pm

Captain Japan wrote:The insanity won't stop. They even want people to think that FGs care. This photo is a classic...
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Hey! I was very impressed the first time I was given a free "Extra" on the street in Ginza.
You know, "EXTRA! EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!" only existed for me in old Hollywood movies,
Seeing an Extra on the street for the first time was a true Japanese experience....More so because it was a free Extra in English for the death of Hirohito. Kool.:cool:
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Postby IkemenTommy » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:17 pm

Captain Japan wrote:The insanity won't stop. They even want people to think that FGs care. This photo is a classic...
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I don't recall ever seeing so much desperation and outright phonyness. The media really is out of control - and for absolutely nothing.

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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:40 pm

There was lots of excitement when Aiko-chan was born too.. this is a royal birth - lots of people are happy...

What I don't understand is that people are saying the royal line needs to stay down the male side... but if Aiko was empress then the line with be down the maternal side. I don't understand this as aren't there always two parents with equal share... (except perhaps from the latest birth as it might have been a laboratory jobbie - eg Arnie and Danny De Vito from "Twins")
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Postby Greji » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:07 pm

GomiGirl wrote:What I don't understand is that people are saying the royal line needs to stay down the male side... but if Aiko was empress then the line with be down the maternal side. I don't understand this as aren't there always two parents with equal share...


You of course being a girl would not see the importance we of the male side bring to any line. Superior as we are, etc.,etc.

Actually the Japanese have always looked at the male child as being from the father's line. Hey, remember all the old haunting tales about the women being offed, executed and otherwise mistreated for not have a male off-spring. Obviously the girl's fault!

It was even in the old school system laws. I ran in to this some years back that for public schooling a half-child (boy or girl) of a J-woman if divorced, widowed, or otherwise single,could not attend school, while the off-spring of a J-man (who had been married, stapled or otherwise attached, to an FG) were eligible for school. The law has now been changed, but, this obviously showed the superiority of the male line. However, probably more important is the fact that, GG won't shout, which is also a serious problem working greatly against any considerations for the female line.
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:20 pm

Ah yes but as somebody from a scientific background I see know that it is sperm that determine the sex of the child... not the egg. This is why I wondered the logic of saying that it was the male line only that mattered. Aiko-chan is a product of both her mother's lineage and her father's equally...

But you can't really argue with traditional thinking - especially in a country that I wasn't born in.. I was just curious is all.

You had kids that couldn't attend school because of a divorce?? Thank goodness that law has been changed as it is more of a punishment to the child than anybody else.
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Postby Greji » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:37 pm

GomiGirl wrote:You had kids that couldn't attend school because of a divorce?? Thank goodness that law has been changed as it is more of a punishment to the child than anybody else.


It was a J-girl who was an acquaintance and had been married to an FG. Her children could not be entered into public school because they were not considered Japanese under the legal definitions in the education law of the time. However, if the J-parent was a dude it was okay, as they could legally be considered Japanese under a J-male's koseki and since FG's do not have kosekis, they would not recognize citizenship based on entry on the J-woman's koseki! The law of the time was, no citizenship (or actually, a valid koseki entry-read on a male's koseki), no public school education!

About the same time this law was changed, they even allowed grandfathering, where you could go back and register your children as Japanese on the J-parent's koseki, thereby obtaining J-citizenship for your half childeren (and I got a bunch of em, some we talk about, some we don't) as duo-citizens. That was for any age as long as they were still minors at the time they were registered.

There was a separate law passed around that time requiring Aussie gals to shout occasionally, but I believe that is not being closely observed either (holds down an unusually large thirst while waiting for GG to reach for that big designer bag)!
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