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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:00 pm

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--Inside Japan's surreal fetish clubs, perversions of every persuasion are indulged for the right price--[floatl]ImageImage[/floatl]Radar Online's Eyewitness:
Joan Sinclair, a 22-year-old photographer, was working as an English teacher in Tokyo when a friend dragged her to the city's infamous Kabukicho red-light district, a neon-drenched enclave packed with 5,000 sex shops that cater to an impressively specific array of sexual fantasies and fetishes. She was hooked. Eight years later, she returned with a [law degree and a] camera and set out to document Japan's $20 billion sex-services industry, befriending hundreds of budding sex workers and their businessman clients. The results of her project are collected in a lush, vinyl-wrapped [spooge-resistant] new book, Pink BoxImage, published this month by Abrams...more....
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Postby Captain Japan » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:42 pm

Two years ago I was at a dinner party with the photographer. She had to leave for an all-night shoot in Chiba that night and had to leave early. I think she said it was a swinger's party of some kind.

Anyway, she was wearing a skirt. Just before heading out the door she said, "I wish I had worn pants."
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:51 pm

If I had to choose two fat girls for a night those two would be top contenders.
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Postby Jack » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:59 pm

Some people have no shame. The things they would do for money.

What's your job? Hhh.. my job is I dress like a cop and sit on top of a mirror floor with no underpants and make clients happy.

How about you? What's your job? I work at a sushi bar and sit on customers' lap so they can rub my tits.

captain Japan, did you say a swingers' party? Where? When?
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Postby Greji » Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:49 pm

Rob Pongi wrote:I simply have to see this:


"Mermaid hostess bar, Fusion, Tokyo

Businessmen at this exclusive hostess bar pay a 40,000-yen entrance fee to drink and watch foreign women swim in a tank. "




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I have no idea where it might be, since I would never frequent such a den of lust.

But if I were to have to guess I would say it wasn't the Fusion that is next door to the Hisio Restaurant, behind Ibis, since they closed their tank (used to have a couple Aussie mermaids). Ben Johnson used to manage it before he left for NZ (should be back by now). They may or may not have re-opened the tank, but the entrance fee would still remain!

But, of course I would just be guessing
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:51 pm

There's a good interview with the author on the book's site.

The site mentions that the big girls work at Club Mammoth which I suppose could be this place which has links to a site called Cutie Fatty.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:14 am

Rob Pongi wrote:I simply have to see this:


"Mermaid hostess bar, Fusion, Tokyo

Businessmen at this exclusive hostess bar pay a 40,000-yen entrance fee to drink and watch foreign women swim in a tank. "




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Isn't that the place featured in the Steven Segal straight-to-video thriller Into The Sun, filmed on location in Tokyo a few years back?
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:41 am

I like that one of the last photos in the set, which features a school room, has "this is a pen" in english and japanese as the lesson on the chalkboard.
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Postby Greji » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:04 am

Mike Oxlong wrote:Isn't that the place featured in the Steven Segal straight-to-video thriller Into The Sun, filmed on location in Tokyo a few years back?


Could well be. Unless it has been re-instated, the tank was gone last time I was through there. Good thing! Damn hear drowned after about a liter of bourbon one night!
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Postby AssKissinger » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:48 am

Jack wrote:Some people have no shame. The things they would do for money.

What's your job? Hhh.. my job is I dress like a cop and sit on top of a mirror floor with no underpants and make clients happy.

How about you? What's your job? I work at a sushi bar and sit on customers' lap so they can rub my tits.



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Postby FG Lurker » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:19 am

Jack wrote:Some people have no shame.

Indeed.
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Postby Captain Japan » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:22 am

Jack wrote:captain Japan, did you say a swingers' party? Where? When?

That's where the photographer of the book was going the night I met her. It was in Chiba. That's all the info I had.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:24 am

Captain Japan wrote:That's where the photographer of the book was going the night ...


I surprised nobody has mentioned that the actual quality of the photographic work in PINK BOX is good and Jaon Sinclair seems to have a better "rapport" with the girls she's photographing than most. (Her subjects seem almost too releaxed with their absurd employment.) ]Inviewer: Why did you want to document the sex industry in Japan?

Sinclar: It’s the second largest industry in Japan (automobiles are the first). It’s too much a part of Japanese modern culture to be ignored...
...10 years ago when I was an English teacher in Tokyo, I overheard a conversation about these clubs and had a friend take me on a tour of Kabukicho-the biggest red-light district in Japan.
I was blown away. There were “train” clubs with all-you-can-grope commuting women. And fake hospitals, where the customer can lie in bed and get “treated” by a pantiless nurse. There were “Sexual Harassment” offices where men can tear the pantyhose off their “secretaries”.
I returned to California and started a respectable career as a corporate lawyer, but I never forgot about those clubs....

http://www.pinkboxjapan.com/interviews.html [/QUOTE]
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Yeah, right, this Sinclair chick took photos for 'art's sake'

Postby rooboy » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:01 pm

It was all for art, it always is:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Why doesn't she just come out and say that when she was that 22 year old English teacher in Tokyo, the mention of all these sex clubs made her horny? And she could fulfil her lesbo, voyeuristic fantasies by feigning a serious photographic interest?

I just lurved the description of how this Sinclair chick was trying to take secret photos in a strip club. For 'art' of course. She was fucking lucky she didn't get her white arse beaten and got thrown out of there.

I still think there's something sus about all the access this woman was given. You'd have to a naive newbie to think that all these criminals didn't ask for jack in return for giving her access to their clubs and letting her shoot photos and make money.:rolleyes:

Sorry, I aint one of those homestay students who gush about what 'an honor it is to live in Japan'. Meaning - I'm not naive enough to think this gaijin was allowed to exploit the Yakuza's world for her own financial purposes. That's bullshit.

What was the price they extracted? This Sinclair woman probably had to perform at these same sex clubs they photographed for 'art'. And I betcha she just loved every minute of it. This interest is just a cover for her own fantasies about women. She should admit it.
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Postby Jack » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:49 pm

FG Lurker wrote:Indeed.


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Postby Mulboyne » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:40 am

rooboy wrote:I still think there's something sus about all the access this woman was given. You'd have to a naive newbie to think that all these criminals didn't ask for jack in return for giving her access to their clubs and letting her shoot photos and make money.:rolleyes:

By that reading, Captain Japan must be a regular gigolo by now.

I think she tells a plausible story. Also, her timing was probably good too. As she points out, a lot of clubs have their own websites now featuring pictures of the girls and the interior so these kinds of images are not unique these days. Clubs generally don't want you taking photographs to protect their customers' privacy and that of the staff. However, while a lot of the girls might not care to show their faces, there are enough who don't give a damn. If she did know the publishers of "Tokyo Soapland" and have a regular column then that would have easily given her sufficient credibility and access.

But don't let me get in the way of your fantasy.
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:07 am

rooboy wrote:It was all for art, it always is:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Why doesn't she just come out and say that when she was that 22 year old English teacher in Tokyo, the mention of all these sex clubs made her horny? And she could fulfil her lesbo, voyeuristic fantasies by feigning a serious photographic interest?

Given she lives in San Francisco, if the need she needed to fufill as was as you described, she wouldn't need to go to Japan....she probably could just go a couple of blocks or miles to any number of local happening club type places....of course, given than most of these J clubs seem to designed for wants and desires of men, I question how her "lesbo" fantasies might be fufilled in J clubs.
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Postby Captain Japan » Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:43 pm

Mulboyne wrote:By that reading, Captain Japan must be a regular gigolo by now.

Give me a minute and I'll figure out a suitable response for this.
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Postby FG Lurker » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:23 pm

Jack: Some people have no shame.
FGL: Indeed
Jack: You crank me up.

I have no idea what that means. Some 2-chome slang Jack?
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Postby Captain Japan » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:09 pm

Mulboyne wrote:If she did know the publishers of "Tokyo Soapland" and have a regular column then that would have easily given her sufficient credibility and access.

I thought the same thing when I read that interview. But then I further thought: what on earth could she have written about? I'm going to see if I can find that rag online.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:21 pm

[floatr]ImageImage[/floatr]The dish on two storied reporters
New York Daily News - October 20, 2006
... Rum cocktails did the trick when some guests jumped in the pool at the Hotel QT party for Joan Sinclair's photo book, "Pink Box: Inside Japan's Sex ClubsImage." At the bash, hosted by Andre Balazs, Brandon Holley and David Kuhn, the fetching Sinclair confided that she hopes her penetration of Tokyo's sex industry won't foul up her application for a post in the Bush administration. Au contraire! It's a qualification ...
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Postby emperor » Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:06 am

Fleshbot article

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(maybe i shouldnt have bothered with the video - the sound is crap, and nothing really happens in it)
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Postby DrP » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:36 pm

I wonder how much time she had to spend here ....

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Obviously the fact that she could basically spend a year in Japan shooting, means she either:

(a) was independently wealthy and could just pay-off anyone she needed to help her get the shots.

(b) she was working actively in the pink industry, probably as a kabakura hostess or similar, and most likely dating one of the midlevel yaks. many gaijin women businesses in japan get their starts this way.

In either case - what did she 'expose' - there's absolutely nothing new and interesting about this. Better she would have been on key and reporting about the real human trafficking around the times of the height of Hindonecho and Kawaguchi just prior to the Japanese lobbying for UN security seats.

Or better yet - how about something like a 'day in the life of a deri wife' ??

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Postby Marvin Feltcher » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:23 am

I'm surprised Joan Sinclair has come in for a little bit of stick in this thread (perhaps I could have used a better phrase, but, too late now!).
She's done all lovers of the Japanese flesh trade a big favor. Contrary to Dr. P's claims, I think what she's done may have been a first. I, for one, find what she's done both new and interesting, and I've been writing on this stuff for almost a decade. It's pretty hard to get in well with one establishment, but to have become accepted so widely and by so many places is a fantastic achievement. Good on her and who cares how she did it.
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Postby Charles » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:40 am

Marvin wrote:Contrary to Dr. P's claims, I think what she's done may have been a first. I, for one, find what she's done both new and interesting...

I guess you never heard of Araki. (NSFW)
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Postby Marvin Feltcher » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:33 am

Charles wrote:I guess you never heard of Araki. (NSFW)


Of course there have been myriad others who've taken photos of those in the sex business, but how many of them have been foreign women?
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:08 am

Charles wrote:I guess you never heard of Araki. (NSFW)


The final photo in the Araki slideshow needs to go in the "Random Nihonjin" section.:p
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