japanese oldies

[Torigaa Fenikkusu]

what kind of music was popular in japan durring the 50s/60s/70s/80s?
i've always wondered, as some japanese movies, there are some references to some kind of old, japanese pop music..

[UNCGnogakusee]

I know they enjoyed rockabilly and still do and the Doo-Wop scene was big for a while.

[Taro Toporific]

[bluepxl]

i found this album of akira fuse, and man is he hot with his shirt off!

errr/// i mean.. umm... pink lady (piinku reedi) was huge in the late 70s and througout the 80s. mention pink lady's song UFO (pronounced yuu-fo) to any japanese person and they'll get all excited you know about them!! i've known so many japanese people that just totally freak when i mention i know pink lady, it's hilarious!

[Don Miller]

As far as 60s music, I think most of it was Japanese Group Sounds, or GS - basically garage rock bands... here are some urls to help you out:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/4044/famousgs.html

and

http://thevideobeat.com/group-sounds-gs-60s-japanese-garage-rock.htm

and

http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~spunk/KAMIKAZE/whatisG.S.html

Those were rather generic links, I know.. but should point you in the right direction.. I've gotten into some of that stuff because of the influence it has had on some modern underground Japanese pop and lounge music..

Don.

what kind of music was popular in japan durring the 50s/60s/70s/80s?
i've always wondered, as some japanese movies, there are some references to some kind of old, japanese pop music..

[Taro Toporific]

i mention pink lady's song UFO (pronounced yuu-fo) to any japanese person and they'll get all excited you know about them!! i've known so many japanese people that just totally freak when i mention i know pink lady, it's hilarious!

WHat's hilarious was that the primetime TV show in the States, Pink Lady and Jeff!

[American Oyaji]

Wow, UFO..

I only got to Japan in '92, but I know about UFO.....

cool song. I like the beginning, where they are waving their arms around in the air.

[Taro Toporific]

what kind of music was popular in japan durring the 50s/60s...

Just try to listen to the MP3 of "The Samisen" by Rene? Hamaty. From the LP "Rene - Sings & Plays Japanese and American Favorites." She was an American lounge singer, living and performing in Japan in the '60s...the LP was made around 1969.

[American Oyaji]

That lady looks like that deaf girl Christy on Survivor: Amazon

[bluepxl]

WHat's hilarious was that the primetime TV show in the States, Pink Lady and Jeff!

hehe yeah, i remember seeing some stuff from that.. it's sad that it didn't last! but it's no wonder, no one in america didn't care

[bluepxl]

a few artists i was thinking of....

60s: Hashi Yukio & Yoshinaga Sayuri
70s: Inoue Yousui
70s-80s: Sada Masashi
80s: Matsutoya Yumi, Shounentai, Matsuda Seiko, Kome Kome CLUB, WINK << wink is especially good!!!

[Taro Toporific]

what kind of music was popular in japan durring the 50s/60s....

ViaBasic Hip Digital Oddio I give you a grrrrreat MP3 by Sondi Sodsai, 2.4MB the Japanese Farewell Song
"Sondi"
by Sondi Sodsai
Liberty LRP-3110
Topnotch exotica/kitsch "oriental" cash-in with outrageous tourist trap lyrics ... the album serves as a 12 song come-on to white American male tourists...presented byBasic Hip Digital Oddio

[Alcazar]

That lady looks like that deaf girl Christy on Survivor: Amazon

AO, you a survivor fan? It's one of my favourite shows, I never miss it.

[subgenius]

I always see these infomercials for best of CDs with Japanese oldies. Most of it sounds exactly like folk music, but in Japanese.

My favorite Japanese band though is Y.M.O.

[AssKissinger]

This band, Finger5, always gets a J-laugh

But the Tigers song, Kimi Dake Ni, is cool as Hell. Back to the GS, thing.

[privileged]

I 2nd subgenius; I bought my 1st Yellow Magic Orchestra yesterday, the first one, I am sitting here listening to it now and I can't get over it. Totally bizarre and totally good. Can't wait to get more.

I have got some group sound stuff, the CD "GS I Love You" was recommended to me as the best of the best and there are some great songs on there, the Blue Jeans I think the band is "One More Please" I love but a lot of it gets stale, just... nothing special about the songs. I know there were some punk bands in the late 70's and I'd like to check them out. I heard they're not that great but still new wavey punk in Japanese I would really like to hear.

[Buraku]

Deepfake AI will make any new song sound like 'oldies'

then of course like Magazines, VHS, Internet the porno merchants will arrive and ABBA will change, made into Deep Fake, a 'Porno'

That Party is No More!

The Faggots Took Over!

K Pop singer Haesoo dies by suicide at 29
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/enterta ... at-29.html

Could the 'Jazz' or synthetic Pop experiences of today match the times of Classical and Folk.
perhaps Movies and stories of Paganini Playing in a Tavern might come with exaggeration?

I'm glad that website http://www.thevideobeat.com is still up, a great archive

with abuses exposed I think Pandora's box has been opened and none of the scandals will be unseen, K-Pop has mostly replaced J-Pop on the world stage.

in other Korea pop news

ASTRO star Moonbin, 25, found dead at home as fans pay tribute to K-pop singer
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity- ... 5-29754851

That Party is No More!

Pedo Faggots Took Over!

Everything is a click of a mouse now, Hyde, Luna Sea, The Pillows, LiSA,  Ningen Isu, Tomoyasu Hotei, Shonen Knife, Polysics, Melt Banana, X-Japan, Aldious, Babymetal, Cartoon AI bands, Girls groups, Scandal, Jonnies?
You want odd, weird, stupid, horror and funny maybe 'Virgin Psychics' soundtracks but as smooth and Hollywood epic as 'Ryuichi Sakamoto' but playing since he was 6 years old Tomohide Harada and composing wacky stuff.

an era before soundcloud, Band Camp, Deezer, bitchute, odysee, tiktok, youtube, spotify, Tidal, Radio4000, Pandora, ReverbNation, Apple music apps and Mixcloud

People had to go to a record store, phone the guy, look at the Phonograph Vinyl record maybe even travel and interact and talk with people in a Brazilian or French, Aussie, Japanese or British music shop. Music was not fully controlled by a machine and spread by genuine word of mouth.

Back with the oldies ...Shiro Miya, Masato Shimon, Pinky and the Killers, the film was an overseas box office hit in the Soviet Union

a click of a mouse you see, Turner in Tokyo

Post War Compilation
https://open.spotify.com/album/2PM0C3aFng2MH5cMn3jvSn

Everything out there today is just one 'click'

I will admit I never was a big listener to songs, some annoyed me or a lot of music bored me, but first time I always listened to it all the way through, an album had a meaning. A band with a new album said something, a message or a style or a work of 'art' on the cover, you gathered around with friends and listened to something all the way every track.

all sounds and beats thing is just a click away now, at minimum need to search

On the level of talent and listeners. We have perhaps musically de-evolved, there are exceptions the kids that do listen to albums but they play bass also or guitar or piano or sing or are 'artistic'. There will be parents who push kids to be the next elite, almost beat and training them and if they dont go crazy and come out the other side they might have fans of 'listeners' looking for good quality. However the connection between the elite player and a stadium of 'audiophile' listener is breaking, most of the general public in the West have lost simple abilities to hold attention or lost simple listening skill it is pleasant beat or nice background noise or a catchy line to sing like a commercial.
the Political Left vs Right mania or Conservative vs Liberal shitshow is getting dumber so maybe that influences 'culture' and art.
the 'Middle Class' has been wiped and West has also lost an ability to play concerts, the predominance of Chinese and many Asians winning and performing great in classical...Life itself imitating art or maybe its all downstream from culture.

That Party is No More!

The Faggots Took Over!

As strange as this sounds I think music has been dead for years, decades, 'pop music' and record companies probably killed music by pushing more catchy addictive simplified music.
It's a race to the bottom and worse than pop they eventually ship out artificial Splittercore Techno Speed-core and tone deaf shit like 'Rap'.
They hijacked the vinyl and radio stations and made it a sales thing, at first shipping out one similar catchy melody after another. Pop has been artificial since day one while Folk music or some old guy playing blues on guitar or a piece of Classical music wrote was more 'genuine'.
However while music is dead killed by its own 'machine' I think there are gems, there is some music with something to 'say' or great innovative stuff out there, if there is stuff you personally like you will find it for example Hiromi Uehara some 'Jazz' people love this style they Love her Japan-Jazz playing. I respect it but I honestly don't get it...Maybe they handed out LSD and Cocaine in Hamamatsu, she used to write jingles and started to go 'Fusion' go to America and then melting everything together at Berklee College of Music, then 'Hiromi' starts learning from other famous musicians, she reached number 1 sales in USA's Jazz charts maybe also UK or French Jazz ...a genre which none of the public really listens to anymore. The good thing about such a Grand Piano on a stage is it will be in tune but IMO you can hit ridiculous stupid notes. When I first heard her music I dindt know what to think of it, I thought she put some magic mushrooms stuff into her espresso coffee, at first her jazz stuff was not for me but I have grow to like the music more. The fact that she is talented and highly successful in her own way but unknown is strange. Almost nobody on Earth can name her they do not know who she is, most of the planet can not whistle any of her melody. Outside of some elitist smokey jazz cafe venue, Not one person on Earth can sing a single line of her music ...I think nobody knows a single line, motif, Riff or tonal pattern chord sequence or lick or melody from any of her songs... other than maybe some group in Japan sing an obscure jingle for a Electronic or Car commercial without knowing she wrote that jingle. There is now a Massive Disconnect between the elite musicians and the Listener, while a Middle Class across the Western world was wiped out. She wrote and composed small commercial melody lines but she was No Vangelis, he was the Greek film composer who connected to people, a man lacked training but connected with Chariots of Fire, Pop Tunes and 'Blade Runner'. Luciano Pavarotti was another of the elite, an operatic tenor who would play with regular music popular styles of James Brown, Bon Jovi, Eric Calpton, B.B. King, Bryan Adams, Mariah Carey, Eric Clapton, Dolores O'Riordan, Sheryl Crow, Anastacia, Elton John, Deep Purple, Meat Loaf, George Michael, Tracy Chapman, Sting you name it the elite Opera singer made an effort to connect with his audience in popular style. The composer Vangelis died in 2022, at age 44 she is probably an 'Oldie' also and her talents are hugely respected by other musicians and she might be kinda 'famous' for the opening ceremony of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics..which was delayed by Covid and few people watched and political people took a knee for those Antia BLM rioters burning down US cities. Video Game music composers are probably considered oldies now, the 80s and 1990s pop tunes are probably 'Oldies' today.

The performance at Tokyo Olympics did nothing for me, only to make me feel annoyed, piano keys buzzing around like some almost out of tune augment dissonant Japanese giant hornet Bubble Bee..this aint an ordinary hyperu-sopeedo flight, jumping down rapdily on each note while the Bee is on stims and psychedelic drugs and more stimulants .
I have no idea what her piece was called, it gave me no impression of any 'meaning' maybe it could be called Mental Asylum Music on Coke and Methamphetamine.
Although she has great skill, this 'show' is kind of typical for her. She is very loud, bombastic with many performances are dialled to 11, the subtlety of a sledgehammer but there is talent she might be one of those 'astounding musicians' but personally not for me. I think she comes without taste and her playing is messy in its own way, but I respect that she is bursting with energy, technique and with passion. A lot of her stuff is not original, it is a cut and paste of other bits of Classical and then mixed in with Cut and Paste of 'Jazz Standards' and when a performer plays this way you are supposed to recognize the section a melody floating or banging over another melody and fell super impressed...maybe super 'anal retentive' only in Japan did you see an arrival of these weird incel type hikikomiri jazz modern-day hermit Celibacy Project women. Maybe she does have a 'Life' maybe she fucks guys or she's a Lesbo munching carpet or maybe at age 44 its too late for her to have kids...I respect her playing but I just don't get any meaning from her music. The reason I have grown to respect her playing more is one day I did see her play less noisy and more subtle...but maybe she laid off the drugs that week. It could be one of those jazz only, exclusive jazz or "strictly jazz" things you either 'get it' or you don't.
This could be my own bias and taste and I usually respect tradition skill and old styles I like new things, progress and technology but my taste has limits and I'm not a big fan of new jazz or 'jazz fusion'. Today you can find incredible players on the web, music from all styles and any era.
but it is sad the disconnect exists, there is no general Middle Class of 'elite' listeners who connect to the virtuoso player and no performance of exceptional people who connect and perform to Ordinary or the Middle Class anymore.
Players from all over the world would arrive at Mt. Fuji Jazz Festival, Tokyo Jazz Event, Yokohama Jazz Festival, Madarao Nagano Prefecture Jazz Festival...some of these events have closed or will be closing forever, the evnts will not be missed by a new generation of listeners
There are times when jazz has no shame and entirely climbs inside its own asshole, a zombie of almost been musicians following who hope to get it.

for example these guys can be good players, Gonzalo Rubalcaba with Afro Cuban rhythm and Chick Corea who died in 2021 easily classed as one of the best...but the performance is so outrageous I think it would be 'even better' jazz if they simply jumped up on the piano and banging and stomped on the keys with their shoes, like when Little Richard used to do his Axe Kick take his feet and stomp on the piano keys. Wioth money and the rare few Japanese with time on their hands and the Japanese economic miracle, some of Japan went Jazz in the 70s, the Japanese jazz frequently been criticized as derivative, or even as an unworthy imitation of U.S. jazz, both by American and Japanese commentators. Jazz today is probably worse than any 'Japan Jazz' its core noisy juke joint grindy music, bum notes banged out to a slightly swung grove, a sound masquerading as 'elite' and a 'peoples music'. They still have these things Jaszu kissa ジャズ喫茶 cafés that specialise in the playing and appreciation of recorded jazz music.
conversation banned and prohibited...what a lifeless unfun place?
https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/c030101/
I think a lot of people in Japan do have good ears and a connection to music or some training, they learn song in school just as US kids learned skill play in US marching bands or do art or sing at Church or a kid from an Atheist family to the radio, or at school play Japan have their own appreciation and background in melody and chord but Japanese Jazz has become its own elite thing with a massive disconnect.

Pop isn't really that musical anymore and probably has lacked talent for a long time but a Pop star they do connect to the people in their own silly way, people go to concerts and sing along to the lyrics of the song.

Scandal and Pervert and Rock and Roll types are nothing new, it always happened

I'm not sure if Mozart was a criminal or an actual 'fag' but he was a pervert,
He wanted to fuck his cousin and lick her ass.
A letter dated in 1777 to Mozart's cousin Maria Anna Thekla Mozart is an example of Mozart's use of scatology. The German original is in rhymed verse.

Well, I wish you good night, but first,
Shit in your bed and make it burst.
Sleep soundly, my love
Into your mouth your arse you'll shove.

Mozart's canon "Leck mich im Arsch" includes the lyrics:

Leck mich im Arsch g'schwindi, g'schwindi!

an unhealthy obsession with shits, farts and licking assholes, and wanting tof uck his own cousin, perhaps the soddomite died of a disease he contracted through some other woman's butt crack.
Sweet Anita not quiet Mozart but an entertainer and raised by a single mother before moving to South West England.
Deep Faked by her fans?

This might be one of her least shocking interviews she usually comes with a dose of Coprolalia involuntary swearing a crazy secound voice within or the involuntary utterance of obscene words or socially inappropriate and derogatory remarks like Cunt, Nigger, Jew, Fag, RETARD.
So did Mozart Have Tourette Syndrome?
https://web.archive.org/web/20060901100 ... imkin.html
maybe damaged, pushed into music at a young age, one of those damaged Michael Jackson types

In Japan. Another hidden pop scandal

A Top Japanese Talent Agency Apologizes Amid Sexual Abuse Accusations
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/worl ... ology.html