Medical Issue

[help_me]

Hey

New to the forum but need a vital answer, and please no moralistic issues here as not interested as it's my body and my choice.

So um turns out that the condom my boyfriend used split and he recently told me. Now seeing as I was late for my period I thought it would be sensible I would do a test.

Turns out positive.

Now I am too young to have a baby and need some advice about how to go about having abortion. Have thought it out seriously and it is the right decision to make.

Please advise how much it would cost and where to get it done.

Please no one try to post about pro-life or etcetera. Simply not interested as it's my choice - I would just like some advice as above.

Thank you so much xxx

[CrankyBastard]

Assuming you live in Japan, get advice from a reputable doctor serving the foreign community in your area.

[American Oyaji]

You made your choice when you spread your legs.

But yeah. What CrankyB said.

[maninjapan]

You made your choice when you spread your legs.

But yeah. What CrankyB said.

Come on no need for that really is there --- have you looked on http://www.japan-guide.com.

Dunno maybe something in there.

[GomiGirl]

Hey girl - don't stress. Help is out there.

Try Being-a-Broad Website - it is a women's board for girls in japan. http://www.being-a-broad.com

Here is a Link about Abortion that may be of assistance.

Here is a quote from that site.

Terminating a pregnancy is a controversial issue, but it is a decision made by about 350,000 women in Japan every year, and a small percentage of them are Western women who have the added difficulty of being in a foreign country. The Western women I spoke with agreed that certain aspects of the experience made it less unpleasant than they felt it would have been in their home countries. The attitude towards abortion is quite different here from that in our home countries; in Japan it is considered a ‘necessary sadness’ and a natural process. Counselling is not provided, nor is it assumed that you will suffer any kind of moral dilemma. Please be aware of this when you visit a doctor, and don’t be surprised by their matter-of-fact approach.

Home pregnancy testing kits are available from any chemist and are pretty easy to spot. They come in pink boxes showing pictures that represent urinating on a stick and seeing the stick change colour. Some have instructions in English, but the pictorial instructions are really easy to understand.

For young women, parental consent for a termination is not required; however, for all women, written consent from ‘the father’ is required. If this is not possible, then a male friend will suffice. Health insurance does not cover abortions, so you will need to pay about ¥120,000.

An anesthetic is not always used, so check beforehand. If you are in the first three months of pregnancy, the cervix will be dilated and the womb scraped or suctioned. Your visit may take just a few hours. If your pregnancy is more advanced, labour will be induced and you will need to stay overnight. Your doctor will explain the methods in detail. All the women specifically commented on how kind and friendly the staff members were throughout the whole procedure.

To AO - Badly done!!! Accidents do happen!!

[cstaylor]

To AO - Badly done!!! Accidents do happen!!

Well, at least his wife made the right decision.

[Samurai_Jerk]

AO, I'm as big an asshole as anyone on here and I can't say I'm crazy about the idea of abortion either, but that's a dickhead move.

[AssKissinger]

For AO, a man who admittedly does nothing to care for his own children, to preach is a fucking joke. Talk about casting the first stone.

[Greji]

AO what an asshole comment. That was really a cold shot, are you training for when you go Navy?

At any rate, Help-chan, those things happen. Since no one has mentioned price, I happened to recall someone (hack, wheeze, belch, etc.) who paid 10 man for his lady after they had both got drunk and forgot. That should pretty much be the going rate. Although, you should think between 1O-15 man to be safe. I assume your boyfriend is going to pay or share the cost.

If you are soon enough, it is a relatively safe and simple procedure, that can be accomplished in a rather short period of time. Obviously, the longer you wait the more complicated it becomes.

[kamome]

Yeah, that was about the most hateful thing I've heard AO say on here.

[FG Lurker]

Abortion is available without trouble in Japan and "economic hardship" is a valid reason for aborting here.

It is an out-patient procedure (you show up and leave an hour or so later), and you can expect it to cost about 120,000 including the initial consultation. If you need to make post-op visits then they will cost a bit more too.

You may have some emotional trauma after the operation, even if you feel 110% that you are doing the right thing. Hopefully your boyfriend will be supportive but having a close friend or two you can talk to would be good.

[Adhesive]

[GuyJean]

[quote="Adhesive"]I don’]I agree.. Especially on a public message board, where opinions are supposed to be different, directed at user with 1 post..

FGL has a good reply; support from friends and/or family will be important afterwards.. Also, once you make your decision, learn from it, grow, then move on.. Don't forget about it though.. But don't let it resurface as a wound once you actually decide to have kids.. Learn, never regret, but also never forget..

GJ

[ichigo partygirl]

Like Gomigirl said check out the being-a-broad site.
I hope you are consulting with friends and/or family - this is something that you shouldnt go through alone and it is slightly worrying you are asking for advice for such a serious issue on an internet forum.
Best of luck.

[American Oyaji]

It might have sounded hateful (it wasn't), but it was true. An accident is always a possibility. I don't believe in abortion and believe it is 100% wrong.
I believe if a man is willing to lay with a woman, he should be willing to stand with her. That's what I did.

Unfortunately, women bear the burden of the sexual scales.

I'm pro choice, but I believe the choice should be made BEFORE the sexual act and not after.
I accept women's RIGHT to choose afterwards, but I will not, can not, support the choice to have an abortion, nor can I remain silent about it.

Not only is it wrong (murder), it damages women physically and scars them psychologically.
I'm not pulling this out of thin air. There are studies about this subject.
My ex-wife has recently been hurting about it mentally. 6 years after the fact, she is still trying to make peace with the decision she made alone without my input.

It's situations like this (the originating post) that prompts me to stay celibate until I'm married again.
Parenthood is too important to risk it happening accidentally.

I also question whether this person is actually searching for help or rather trying to stir the pot. People have been known to drop into a message board and post something controversial just to see what happens.

Anyway, That's my 4 yen.

[Big Booger]

Abortion is not the only solution to the "problem". I would investigate all the options fully and based on your own judgement, make an informed decision.

Too often women use abortion as the only strategy when there are several other contingencies to fall back on:

http://www.abortionalternatives.com/

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/birth-control-pregnancy/adoption.htm

More info on an abortion:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/birth-control-pregnancy/abortion.htm

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/birth-control-pregnancy/abortion/risks-and-side-effects.htm


In the future, if you are going to be having sex, protected or not, perhaps you should have an emergency plan at the ready:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/birth-control-pregnancy/emergency-contraception-4363%20.htm

I and my wife early on in our dating had to fall back on this and it seemed to work.

I don't seek to persuade nor condemn you in any way. The purpose of my post is to help you get informed in case you haven't already.

While AO may have sounded insensitive, I don't think he is out of character in any way shape or form. He is a religious man who values life, and he considers abortion murder. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it.

If the OP doesn't want to hear what he has to say she can ignore it.

If you want an abortion, I'd recommend going back to your own country for it. There you can fully understand what is going on and you'll be treated in the manner more to your own cultural standards.

That's just my advice.

I did find information for a clinic that provides abortion services:

Japan Family Planning Association, Inc. (FPFJ )
Hoken Kaikan Shinkan Bldg
1-10 Ichigaya Tamachi, Shinjuku-ku
Tokyo 162-0843
Japan
Tel: +81(3) 3269 4041
Fax: +81(3) 3269 4750

http://www.womenonwaves.org/article-1020.197-en.html#japan

[Mulboyne]

I accept women's RIGHT to choose afterwards, but I will not, can not, support the choice to have an abortion, nor can I remain silent about it.

You chose to be crude and boorish with your comment. You did not offer any argument in favour of your convictions and you did not intend to help. Your beliefs may deserve respect but, by your actions, you do not show that you also deserve it.

[AssKissinger]

It's situations like this (the originating post) that prompts me to stay celibate until I'm married again.
Parenthood is too important to risk it happening accidentally.

Fucking Christ you're a hypocrite.

[whos.your.daddy]

Wasn't it AO who wanted to find easy girls to "fuck with out a condom"?
Wasn't it AO who constantly try to pick up girls that log into forums? Original poster take care and ignore his emails.
Wasn't it AO who has not seen his children in years.
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14497
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15177

[Greji]

I also question whether this person is actually searching for help or rather trying to stir the pot. People have been known to drop into a message board and post something controversial just to see what happens.

AO, go back and read her post. She clearly states ".....please no moralistic issues here as not interested as it's my body and my choice....."!

It would look as though all the controversial comments are in the answers to her post and not what she is asking for here!

I admire the position taken by yourself and others, but I don"t share it. I would think just providing what info you might have that she was requesting would be appropriate and leave the preaching that you and others might have, to an appropriately titled thread elsewhere!

[nullpointer]

You made your choice when you spread your legs.

But yeah. What CrankyB said.

Real class and sophistication there

[GuyJean]

Real class and sophistication there

Let me get this straight] moral issues discussed on this public forum because it's "her body and her choice.".. Fuck that.. You guys are a bunch hyper-sensitive weenies!

Guess what; actions do have consequences.. And I'm not talking about Help_Me's predicament. I'm talking about posting a private problem on a public forum..

GJ

[cstaylor]

I'm talking about posting a private problem on a public forum..

Yes they do, and don't think posting under a pseudonym will keep you safe.

[Greji]

Let me get this straight] moral issues discussed on this public forum because it's "her body and her choice.".. Fuck that.. You guys are a bunch hyper-sensitive weenies!

Guess what; actions do have consequences.. And I'm not talking about Help_Me's predicament. I'm talking about posting a private problem on a public forum..

GJ

Forgive me father for I have sinned. Where the fuck you coming from GJ? She just asked where and how much and without any shit! Now, you want to set up an authorized sermon and confessional. Tell her where, how much and move on. If you want to start a thread on illegal or unethical roto rooter activities, fine. But not here is all I'm saying.

[whos.your.daddy]

Its doesn't matter Guyjean because you are applying western morals to somebody who more than likely grew up in Japan.

[GuyJean]

Forgive me father for I have sinned. Where the fuck you coming from GJ?

What are you talking about? I think she received a wealth of information for someone with 1 post.. AO, who's been posting for years, gets piled on for posting something he felt like saying.. Even if it was a little uncalled for.. But then, none of us have ever posted anything uncalled for, right?

I didn't realize one of the FG Commandments was to obey every newbie request above your own moral inclinations..

GJ

[Adhesive]

Forgive me father for I have sinned. Where the fuck you coming from GJ? She just asked where and how much and without any shit! Now, you want to set up an authorized sermon and confessional. Tell her where, how much and move on. If you want to start a thread on illegal or unethical roto rooter activities, fine. But not here is all I'm saying.

So, if...Jack, for example, started a thread asking which love hotel in Saitama was cheapest so that he could more efficiently cheat on his wife, but he prefaced this question by asking for none of that morality bullshit, you guys would be equally protective of his privilege to have only unopinionated, factual, replies to his public query?

[GuyJean]

Its doesn't matter Guyjean because you are applying western morals to somebody who more than likely grew up in Japan.

Huh?

[quote="GuyJean"]FGL has a good reply] What 'western morals' am I applying?.. The one about learning from one's mistakes?..

GJ

[CrankyBastard]

When I spotted the first post yesterday, my initial reaction was that some bored joker was trying to stir the shite, and I decided to ignore it.
Then as I watched the post head toward the bottom of the hot topic pile and about to drop off the page, I thought, what if it's genuine, it deserves at least to be noticed and even if it were someone setting bait, at least the subject qualifies quite literally as a fukedgaijin.
As there has been no response from the original poster, I'm beginning to have doubts.

[GomiGirl]

I found it interesting how this subject polarised the group.... but whatever your point of view, it is best served by mature discussion rather than name calling and finger pointing.