Who is the Ultimate Japan-Basher ?

[Buraku]

[jingai]

Add Michael Crichton, subtract Gregory Clark who has written columns from a reactionary Japanese perspective, add Karel vanWolfren. Not sure why you consider oppressed minorities (Buraku, Koreans) Japan-bashers.

[GomiGirl]

This Guy

[maninjapan]

My dad

when he found out I have a Japanese girlfriend - well let's just say it weren't pretty.

[American Oyaji]

Really MIJ? How long ago was this?

[jingai]

Really MIJ? How long ago was this?

Was it before or after the occupation?

[maninjapan]

He found out about after 1 mth after we started dating - he is of the older generation - you know the ones that in Japan tend to dislike foreigners and in the West dislike Germans and the such and can't seem to distinguish between told what to do and orders and from innocent people..

Doesn't have much of a choice really so guess he is coming around to the idea.

i thought the biggest Japan basher would have to be the South Korean Pm after he bashed Abe about the WW2 when they were talking about Kim Jong Ill a few weeks back.

[Buraku]

Add Michael Crichton, subtract Gregory Clark who has written columns from a reactionary Japanese perspective, add Karel vanWolfren. Not sure why you consider oppressed minorities (Buraku, Koreans) Japan-bashers.

Maybe I should leave minorities out of this


Here's more :

Fred Dekker film director dislikes Japanofiles,

Older generations of Chinese living in Manchuria, Nanking or parts of China taht saw Japan's brutality

Conservative Canadian Stephen Fletcher known for outbursts like "The Japs were Bastards"

Woronoff Jon bashes the Nippon economy hates Japanophiles and Japan-apologists

Elderly people in the Netherlands

Stew Magnuson think the J-cops are in the keystone club, and the Aum attacks should have been stopped

old British war vets

Tom Clancy, known for his anti-Japanese writing, in 1994 he writes about the Zaibatsu going to war with the United States. After the USA hits back and gives Nippon a big ass-whopping an embittered Japanese airline pilot goes kamikaze crashing his 747 into the U.S. Capitol

Older Americans who fought in the Pacific

Hong Xiao and Howard Goldblatt critical of Hirohito in their books

Harold Holt Aussie politician

Kim Jong Il fires of his missiles near Japan !! explodes Nukes, makes war threats !!

Vladimir Putin - trying to set a new bag limit on J-fishermen

Laid-off Detroit autoworkers, controversial event surrounding the murder of Chineseman Vincent Chin - Two laid-off autoworkers attacked a Chinaman beating him to death with a baseballbat while screaming "You Jap motherfuckers have put us out of work"

S.Korean political leaders...too many to name

[MrUltimateGaijin]

Maybe I should leave minorities out of this


Here's more :

Fred Dekker film director dislikes Japanofiles,


Stew Magnuson think the J-cops are in the keystone club, and the Aum attacks should have been stopped





Vladimir Putin - trying to set a new bag limit on J-fishermen

that all sounds normal

[jingai]

Tom Clancy, known for his anti-Japanese writing, in 1994 he writes about the Zaibatsu going to war with the United States. After the USA hits back and gives Nippon a big ass-whopping an embittered Japanese airline pilot goes kamikaze crashing his 747 into the U.S. Capitol

Which one was that? I'll have to read it.

[amdg]

I think that one was "Debt of Honor".

[Mulboyne]

There is a short Wiki explaining where the terminology originated and a slightly longer one touching on the subject as a whole.

[Buraku]

that all sounds normal

So would you all agree that Debito is a Japan-Basher ?

[MrUltimateGaijin]

So would you all agree that Debito is a Japan-Basher ?

dunno, would have to read more of his comments

[American Oyaji]

While I think Debito has good points, I think his way of going about it is screwy.

[jingai]

So would you all agree that Debito is a Japan-Basher ?

No. He's a masochist as he became Japanese to oppose Japanese ways of doing things.

[Catoneinutica]

I'll go ahead and nominate the greater part of the Parisian service industry; I've never heard so many references to the Japanese as "ants" as in Paris restaurants, shops, and hotels.

And of course, Edith Cresson, France's President c. 1991, made the "ant" comparison quite publicly and famously - though De Gaulle's reference to Japan being a "nation of transistor salesmen" still wins hands down.

[Buraku]

While I think Debito has good points, I think his way of going about it is screwy.

However you got to take the point that Debito ain't living in an international urbanized area like Osaka or Tokyo, he lives in hick-ville Hokkaido. Even great efforts like hakucho bridges and record long tunnels haven't brought this place out of 'the sticks' or boondocks

[blackcat]

anybody that makes any critical comment or observation of Japan, constructive or otherwise.... is a Japan basher apparently.

[American Oyaji]

anybody that makes any critical comment or observation of Japan, constructive or otherwise.... is a Japan basher apparently.

I disagree.
I think a "basher" is someone who has a mental attitude completely opposed to what they are bashing and never brings up any redeeming quality.

So a Japan basher by that definition would be someone who always says something negative about Japan and never a positive or their negative statements far outweight the positive ones.

EXAMPLE: Charles is a Aussie basher. Certifiably so. He takes every opportunity he can to say something bad about Australia or Australians.

I know that is an extreme example, but it makes my point.

[Charles]

EXAMPLE: Charles is a Aussie basher. Certifiably so. He takes every opportunity he can to say something bad about Australia or Australians.

That is not true at all. For example, whenever I say that it is every ozzie's desire to drink until they are lying in a gutter in a pool of their own vomit, I say that to highlight the fact that ozzies do indeed have lofty dreams of what they can achieve in their lives, and can attain them, and in fact, do so with regularity.
This is nothing but an observation. You might as well consider me a "water basher" if I observe that water is wet.

[American Oyaji]

*another post bashing aussies*

Chuck, you are SO predictable and I knew you would do that.

[Charles]

Chuck, you are SO predictable and I knew you would do that.

I think you are prejudiced against ozzies. You describe my remarks as "bashing," when I clearly described this scenario as "lofty dreams," something that ozzies aspire to, akin to something holy. Who are YOU to cast aspersion on that vomit-filled gutter, a place that ozzies consider their nirvana? I can recognize the higher aspirations of ozzies to transcend their execrable circumstances and achieve a noble place in this nirvana, but you cannot.

[Greji]

That is not true at all. For example, whenever I say that it is every ozzie's desire to drink until they are lying in a gutter in a pool of their own vomit

You are restricting that to Aussies, aren't you?
Whew!

[Iraira]

Look, can we just bash on Americans for awhile. I like being a redneck cracker. Dubuya in 2008!

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

This is nothing but an observation..

That is not true at all. Usual bile...

[firefly]

Ok then Charles, how does your philisophy account for Australians who don't drink? I have extensive personal experience in this area, being one of them.

Subject matter aside, I like your writing style. It's sharp and witty.

[Charles]

Ok then Charles, how does your philisophy account for Australians who don't drink? I have extensive personal experience in this area, being one of them.

Your recovery can only begin when you end the years of denial.

[firefly]

Hahaha.

I admit it, I was sending the above message from a wireless LAN connection at an AA meeting.

[amdg]

I really don’t ‘get’ this continued Aussie-bashing from Chuck. If it is truly a heartfelt criticism, then its just bizzare coming from a member of country with so many of its own conspicuous cultural flaws (fundie Christian political dominance/acceptance that corporate hyper-greed is the right way/fill in your own blanks). Really, fix your own problems at home before you start taking the moral high ground against other cultures.

On the other hand, if he’s just baiting for the fun of drawing people into some delusional epic ‘War of Flame’, and he’s later going to turn around and in his high-pitched voice say “Ha ha! I poked you in the ribs until you got angry!”, well, … then it’s almost just too sad to contemplate. A grown man getting his jollies in that way. I would like to remind him that valuable minutes of his life are slowly but surely passing away while his sweaty plams are typing out false criticisms about people he doesn’t know. The phrase ‘get a life’ has no more apt use than here, I think.

The third and final possibility, is that he suffered some indignity at the hands of some Australian(s) in the past. If that is the case, and he is projecting his rage onto the whole Australian populace – well, irrational projection on that scale is what professional psychologists are paid to help you with.