[GomiGirl]

[GomiGirl]

Does capaccio (spelling?) count? If so, add buffalo and kangaroo to the list...

[GomiGirl]

I had scorpians in China once. They were deep fried. Crunchy but quite flavorless.

Deep fried crickets (ie like locusts) in the Tsumago (Kiso Valley out of Nagoya). Great place and the crickets were OK too.

[Taro Toporific]

Does capaccio (spelling?) count? If so, add buffalo and kangaroo to the list...

For PURE PUTIDFCATION, nothing beats Japanese shiokara (raw fermented squid guts) but I rather partial to the dread kusaya, some sort of dried fish product whose aroma is so strong it lingers in your house for up to three months after it is fried.

And of course, there's the common-ly found raw chicken sasami just to get your daily minimum requirement of samonenala.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

[StickyRiceLover]

It's usually not a good idea to start a post off with an apology but don't take this the wrong way...

A friend of mine, (really not me, a friend) ate a Japanese soapland girls' *ahem* *cough cough... you know. At least that's what he told me.

I bet not too many of you have tried that, including GomiGrrl.

Now that's gross.

SRL.

[American Oyaji]

Nothing wrong with eating horse. Not much different than cows really.

The meat is just tougher. My wife gave me a kabob at a festival, and told me to eat it. I asked what it is, and she said just try it, so I did, and I liked it.

Then she told me it was horse. I said cool. Get me another.

Now eating DOLPHINS on the other hand is Cannibalism. WRONG AND CRUEL.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Nothing wrong with eating horse. Not much different than cows really.

The meat is just tougher. My wife gave me a kabob at a festival, and told me to eat it. I asked what it is, and she said just try it, so I did, and I liked it.

Then she told me it was horse. I said cool. Get me another.

Now eating DOLPHINS on the other hand is Cannibalism. WRONG AND CRUEL.

You poor, poor uncultured soul.

[American Oyaji]

You poor, poor uncultured soul.

UNGA BOUNGA!!!

OOK! OOK!

[katakori]

of course there is NOTHING wrong in eating horse, as long as you're not a vegetarian.

why would horse be a "better" animal than any other creature. either killing is a bad thing or it's not, if it's not, than eat it.

killing for fur is bad. killing individuals of your own species is bad. feeding grass-eating animals with flesh (often from similar animals) is wrong and evil. overkilling the destruction of a disappearing species is stupidly bad...

but finding one type of animal more "valuable" than another is just plain childish.

what about babies?? you eat eggs? lamb? veal? baby back ribs? fish roe??

let's not confuse vegetarians' right to not eat meat and right to live extremists here, please.........

by the way, kangaroo is a meat that has to be eaten rare. even if you don't usually have red meat this way. cooking it medium or well done makes it very hard and quite impossible to chew (let alone enjoy). so i guess it's only natural to have it raw altogether. on the other hand, there is no or very limited breeding of kangaroo. it is more like a game animal. so eating it completely uncooked could be quite risky, on an hygiene point of view.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

of course there is NOTHING wrong in eating horse, as long as you're not a vegetarian.

why would horse be a "better" animal than any other creature. either killing is a bad thing or it's not, if it's not, than eat it.

killing for fur is bad. killing individuals of your own species is bad. feeding grass-eating animals with flesh (often from similar animals) is wrong and evil. overkilling the destruction of a disappearing species is stupidly bad...

but finding one type of animal more "valuable" than another is just plain childish.

what about babies?? you eat eggs? lamb? veal? baby back ribs? fish roe??

let's not confuse vegetarians' right to not eat meat and right to live extremists here, please.........

by the way, kangaroo is a meat that has to be eaten rare. even if you don't usually have red meat this way. cooking it medium or well done makes it very hard and quite impossible to chew (let alone enjoy). so i guess it's only natural to have it raw altogether. on the other hand, there is no or very limited breeding of kangaroo. it is more like a game animal. so eating it completely uncooked could be quite risky, on an hygiene point of view.

Sir, if you can't look at a horse and recognize the difference between it and livestock you cannot simply not be helped. Fortunately, I know beauty when I see it and its name is horse. Particularly racehorse.

Actually, I have more respect for cannibals.

[katakori]

Actually, I have more respect for cannibals.

this is usually a vegeterian phrase for 'i don't know how to make a point because what i say is my opinion only and there is no way i can ever convince anyone with it, because i don't actually have a point'.
but it's ok. i respect vegeterians, and vegan, and to a certain extent cannibals...

the thing is that i'm not talking about racehorce, i'm talking about the fact that we are omnivorous animals and that horses are flesh and bones, just like us. you didn't answer my question about eggs. next time you eat fish roe, try to figure how sick it is... then move on to fruits and you'll realise than eating is a cruel thing, no matter what you eat.

eating is not the problem. killing is. unfortunately, life is unfair.

to go back to your comment, yes, i can make the difference between a horse and livestock. can you make the difference between a farm-bred salmon and a sea-harvested tuna? yet you find them both in tins at your local supermarket and it doesn't bother you, does it?

next thing you'll tell me that breeding tigers for their fur and penises is ethical?

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Actually, I have more respect for cannibals.

this is usually a vegeterian phrase for 'i don't know how to make a point because what i say is my opinion only and there is no way i can ever convince anyone with it, because i don't actually have a point'.
but it's ok. i respect vegeterians, and vegan, and to a certain extent cannibals...

the thing is that i'm not talking about racehorce, i'm talking about the fact that we are omnivorous animals and that horses are flesh and bones, just like us. you didn't answer my question about eggs. next time you eat fish roe, try to figure how sick it is... then move on to fruits and you'll realise than eating is a cruel thing, no matter what you eat.

eating is not the problem. killing is. unfortunately, life is unfair.

to go back to your comment, yes, i can make the difference between a horse and livestock. can you make the difference between a farm-bred salmon and a sea-harvested tuna? yet you find them both in tins at your local supermarket and it doesn't bother you, does it?

next thing you'll tell me that breeding tigers for their fur and penises is ethical?

first of all my friend you are talking to a (used to be) avid hunter (no time for it now). I have got no problem with meat eating. What is disgusting however is the type of meat certain people will eat. Dog and horse eaters, in particular, are mongrels that should not be allowed to breed with humans. Just my opinion.

[katakori]

Just my opinion

that makes so much more sense, suddenly

so what makes dogs and horses 'superior' animals we shouldn't eat? their respect for us as human (because we have forced them into slavery by twisting their instinct)? or the fact that they are beautiful (is there ONE animal on the planet which is not beautiful and wonderful??)?

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Just my opinion

that makes so much more sense, suddenly

so what makes dogs and horses 'superior' animals we shouldn't eat? their respect for us as human (because we have forced them into slavery by twisting their instinct)? or the fact that they are beautiful (is there ONE animal on the planet which is not beautiful and wonderful??)?

If you aren't capable of just understanding what separates the dog and horse from livestock then no amount of explaining can fix this. Apparently, this is in the genes. You aren't Korean are you?

[ramchop]

next time you eat fish roe, try to figure how sick it is... then move on to fruits and you'll realise than eating is a cruel thing, no matter what you eat.

Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but what an incredibly stupid thing to say!

Fruit is designed to be eaten. The seeds are not designed to be shat into the sewage system, but I don't think that's what we're talking about here.

[katakori]

fruits are the "eggs" of plants. technically, they are NOT designed to be eaten. they are designed to nourrish the seed until it has the opportunity to create a new individual of the species.

now, i do understand that comparing plant egg and animal egg is an odd parallel, but i wanted to go as deep as i could in the unfairness of nature: life is kept by killing. wether you want it or not. fruits, as much as eggs, as much as any animal or plant, contains life and will need to kill, at some stage, to survive, or to be killed for some other living creature to survive. it's that basic.

now my question is to understand why dogs and horses are 'better', that's all. and what should makes human more enclined to eat other animals than these, on the ground that we 'domesticated' them... that's all.

no, i am not korean. and no, it's not a gene thing. apart if you come from some 100 years ago and you make the confusion between "genes" and "culture", then it's ok...
i'm not talking about livestock. you are. i'm comparing animals we hunt to consume their flesh, and animals we have hunted long time ago to beat them into slavery. that's all.

[ramchop]

fruits are the "eggs" of plants. technically, they are NOT designed to be eaten. they are designed to nourrish the seed until it has the opportunity to create a new individual of the species.

No, fruit is designed to be eaten. Otherwise the seeds would just plonk down next to the mother tree and not be dispersed anywhere. They're designed to be eaten, carried away, and shat out on fertile ground elsewhere.

[katakori]

we are so far away from the original kangaroo sashimi...

although you are completely right about the 'effect' the edible characteristics of the fruit has on the reproductive cycle, you are disregarding the original purpose of the fruit itself towards the seed.

the fact that animals (and often wind and water) carry the seed further away from the original plant is darwinism, not the actual wish of the plant itlself (or is it?).

[ramchop]

although you are completely right about the 'effect' the edible characteristics of the fruit has on the reproductive cycle, you are disregarding the original purpose of the fruit itself towards the seed.

the fact that animals (and often wind and water) carry the seed further away from the original plant is darwinism, not the actual wish of the plant itlself (or is it?).

Who cares what the "original purpose" of the fruit was? Surely if you're debating whether or not fruit should be eaten the issue is what is the purpose of the fruit now.

Whether you're a darwinist, a creationist, or a selective breeder, the purpose of fruit is clear. It's there to be eaten. (or if you're in Japan and can't afford the fresh stuff, it's there to be drunk)

[katakori]

yes sir!!

so what is the purpose of the horse, anyway??

[American Oyaji]

yes sir!!

so what is the purpose of the horse, anyway??

An edible form of transportation? :P

Horses ARE livestock by the way.

And genetically, they arent TOO far from cows.

Are they beautiful? Yeah they are. And they taste good too.

Gai, you are the only one with a hangup eating horse, so you are obviously the odd man out on this issue.

But I guess you will just be a "Culture of One".

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

yes sir!!

so what is the purpose of the horse, anyway??

An edible form of transportation? :P

Horses ARE livestock by the way.

And genetically, they arent TOO far from cows.

Are they beautiful? Yeah they are. And they taste good too.

Gai, you are the only one with a hangup eating horse, so you are obviously the odd man out on this issue.

But I guess you will just be a "Culture of One".

Your ability to breed should be summarilly suspended.

[Resolute Optimist]

Sounds like the "debates" that used to go on in art class: should art be about beauty?
I ride horses and they are amazing animals. But I've never eaten rabbit either because I had one when I was small...
Research has pointed to the fact that pigs have the intellectual capacities of 4 year old children. They are technically more intelligent than dogs. But as this is not the angle of appreciation given here, I suppose that its the same as preferring an incredibly beautiful woman who is passably stupid to an average but very intelligent women...
Eating horse is a taboo for most people even here. Its either a family habit or they are just as disgusted as anyone... You know there are a couple of million of hunters here, I'm sure you could make some friends Gai.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

OMG a Frenchie!!!

[bejiita]

And of course, there's the common-ly found raw chicken sasami just to get your daily minimum requirement of samonenala.

I had this at an izukaya once. One of my friends ordered it and told me to try it. It looked and tasted like tuna to me so I assumed it was tuna. After I had eaten a couple of slices, only then did he tell me it was raw chicken!

[bejiita]

Continuing this topic further, what one finds disgusting is always based on the social mores one grew up with or are influenced by. Personally, I think people tend to find the killing or eating of kawaii animals or animals that are used as pets more disgusting than other types of animals. In some countries, most people would consider eating a cat disgusting. Yet in other societies, cats are no different from any other type of meat. Who's to say which social mores are better? Is one going to argue "my country is more powerful than yours so my social mores should be the standard."

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[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Continuing this topic further, what one finds disgusting is always based on the social mores one grew up with or are influenced by. Personally, I think people tend to find the killing or eating of kawaii animals or animals that are used as pets more disgusting than other types of animals. In some countries, most people would consider eating a cat disgusting. Yet in other societies, cats are no different from any other type of meat. Who's to say which social mores are better? Is one going to argue "my country is more powerful than yours so my social mores should be the standard."

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My point exactly. any culture that is not capable of recognizing the grace and beauty of the horse is not a culture as far as I am concerned.

[ramchop]

My point exactly. any culture that is not capable of recognizing the grace and beauty of the horse is not a culture as far as I am concerned.

Do Monoglians eat horse? My understanding is that a big part of their culture is based around recognising the grace and beauty of the horse.

[American Oyaji]

As to my reproductive capacity?

I'm VERY potent. nuff said. 2 sons to my name that I know of.

Anyway, up in Hachinohe, eating horse ain't a big deal. They even sell it in tins.

I don't think I could ever eat a dog. (I love dogs) So I can understand Gai's opinion about eating horses.


But dude, just agree to disagree and don't be so caustic. I told you about that.