Will Apple adopt Windoze? - and other depressing thoughts....

[mr. sparkle]

God knows that Dvorak is a PC nazi, but he makes some good points in this article.

[American Oyaji]

Well, if Apple adopts Windoze, but preserves the look and feel of the Apple OS, then I don't have a problem because these days, both programs operate quite similarly.

Or, Apple could offer MacOS to other Intel machines.

I think that would be more likely.

[cstaylor]

Dvorak is an idiot. As someone who has actually programmed USB device drivers for all three platforms he mentioned in his article (Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X), they are in order of difficulty:
- Windows
- Linux
- Mac OS X

Two-machine debugging on Mac OS X just works, and they user-mode client USB libraries are awesome on the Mac.

The most likely thing I can see would be something like Xen or VMWare running on Mac OS X so you can run Windoze apps on your Apple PC.

[bruce_a]

God knows that Dvorak is a PC nazi, but he makes some good points in this article.

Actually, he doesn't.

He bases the arguement on four flawed presuppositions:

1. The "Switch" campaign is over, and failed.

Oh? Lots of ad campaigns are over. "Intel Inside" is over. Was THAT a failure? The Mac's market share has increased. I wouldn't say the campaign was a failure.

2. Dumping the iPod's Firewire compatibility.

Irrelevant, since it's got nothing AT ALL to do with the OS.

3. The iPod was supposed to make people buy Macs.

Says who? The iPod was supposed to make it easier to carry your tunes around. If some people liked it enough to want to try a Mac, great, but the iPod was NEVER meant to be the bait for new Mac purchases.

4. The move to Intel.

Well, Dvorak's been flogging that horse for a decade now, and he finally got it right after ten years of making an ass of himself. Mac OS X works perfectly well on Intel. Why bother dumping the WHOLE FREAKING REASON people continue to buy Macs-the OS? If I wanted a cheapo PC, I'd buy a POS Dell. I buy and use Macs for one reason: I like the OS better. The cool hardware is an added bonus, but if I could buy a version of MacOS X which ran on generic PC hardware I probably would.

So don't panic. All he's doing is trying to stir up controversy. It's all he's good for.

[jim katta]

I agree with Bruce. Dvorak is an idiot Mac hater, and has been one for some time. His hate for the Mac exceeds logic, and is probably rooted in some personal slight against him from Apple or Steve Jobs that happened years ago.

The main reason Dvorak's latest blather is meaningless is summed up by Bruce when he says,

"The cool hardware is an added bonus, but if I could buy a version of MacOS X which ran on generic PC hardware I probably would."

I agree, and so would a lot of people. Sure it's great the Apple makes some of the most attractive computers, but if you gave me an pimped out Sony Vaio running Windows versus the lastest Mac OS X running inside an old Compaq Presario beige box, I would still take the Mac OS X system. Dvorak's argument reveals his contempt for Mac users. He actually thinks that the main reason Mac fans are so rabid about the Mac is the look--which proves he knows nothing about the Mac user base.

Apple would adopt a proprietary-support version of Linux before they'd go Windows. Honestly, I stopped reading Dvorak a long time ago, but this completely stupid article has really made him lose a lot more credibility with me.

[Mulboyne]

[Korrito]

[emperor]

i guess it would seem kinda homo-erotic if one hadnt been to Japan or Turkey..

[Greji]

[IkemenTommy]

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[Big Booger]

Fuck them both. I gave up winders about a year ago and never took a bite of the old applez. I mainly use Ubuntu Gutsy now and it works fantastically well for nearly everything I need. I love how it auto updates almost every piece of installed software I have on the computer, everything from Openoffice to Audacity to Miro. With Compiz running you can tweak it out with all the 3d desktop effects or if you prefer a basic install it can go either way.

Sure some diehard computer geeks that sex up penguin dolls at night my scoff and scawl at Ubuntu for being a bloated Bluto in the Linux realm, but I like it because it works. And the support forums are fantastic for any issues that creep up like getting printers to work better, or fixing multibutton mouse configurations... Installing software has honestly never been easier for me. Synaptic Package Manager is as good as it gets for a graphically minded user.

And it's all free, including the support.

[American Oyaji]

Well, HE doesn't get it.

[Charles]

..the support forums are fantastic for any issues that creep up like getting printers to work better, or fixing multibutton mouse configurations...

Even my experimental MkLinux system back in 1992 didn't need to be configured for a multibutton mouse.

But nevermind that, this is The Year of the Linux Desktop. Just like every year for the past 5 years. Linux is just as good as MacOS X. Just keep saying that over and over, and maybe if you believe it long enough, it will come true.

[Big Booger]

:rofl:

Even my experimental MkLinux system back in 1992 didn't need to be configured for a multibutton mouse.

But nevermind that, this is The Year of the Linux Desktop. Just like every year for the past 5 years. Linux is just as good as MacOS X. Just keep saying that over and over, and maybe if you believe it long enough, it will come true.

Fuck off you twat.

You obviously don't realize what you are talking about. And your experimental system must have really kicked ass back in 1992... maybe you should go back there and enjoy it some more.

The reason the buttons aren't supported in Linux, has little to do with Linux and in fact more to do with the fact that the hardware companies don't support Linux by developing drivers for that system. If Logitech or other mice companies released drivers, then there would be no need for configuration of mice in the first place. Without a driver a lot of shit functions in Windows or OSX but it doesn't have all the bells and whistles that make the product work well.

[Charles]

You obviously don't realize what you are talking about. And your experimental system must have really kicked ass back in 1992... maybe you should go back there and enjoy it some more.

My 1992 linux config is still kicking your ass even now in 2008.

I understand linux just fine, I've used it for over 15 years. The way it is supposed to work: STFU and stop whining about missing feature X, if you want it, write your own code and contribute it to the big free software party. How's that working out for you? Nobody's written the driver you need? Can't do it yourself? Quel surprise.