Gaijin Club In Hiroshima Raided 'To Halt Dancing'

[Samurai_Jerk]

There's suspected of doing something illegal and then there is SUSPECTED of doing something illegal.

Well riding with your light off and fighting are definitely justifiable reasons for them to ask for ID under Japanese law.

[eddie]

i thought 'footloose' was fiction...

[Big Booger]

One, they need staff to protect entrances.. that way if the fuzz show up you'll have a bit of a warning. Second, a back entrance, fire escape would be welcome.

Why hasn't Debito Arudo challenged this "no dancing" law??? He challenges everything else.

Last point, this is just revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki... simple as that.

[Mulboyne]

Japan Probe spotted this entry on "Keeping Pace in Japan".



The sign is outside a bar near Barco.

[AssKissinger]

I don't give a fuck about that. A bar owner should be able to let anyone in or keep anyone out for any fucking reason he sees fit. I don't want those military dudes in my space either. 19, barely passed high school, stupid as fuck and violent. I just don't think the fucking pigs should be making the calls.

Interesting blog though.

[Greji]

I don't want those military dudes in my space either. 19, barely passed high school, stupid as fuck and violent.

Now let me get this straight AK. You and Kerry want these dumb duds in Iraq because they're stupid as fuck and didn't study?

[(1VB)freels]

I don't give a fuck about that. A bar owner should be able to let anyone in or keep anyone out for any fucking reason he sees fit. I don't want those military dudes in my space either. 19, barely passed high school, stupid as fuck and violent. I just don't think the fucking pigs should be making the calls.

Interesting blog though.

First off...... FUCK YOU!


Second. I serve so you can protest and have the right to say assanine things like that. I am a U.S. Navy sailor with 12 years under my belt. I didn't kill anyone when I was in Japan. I didn't rape anyone. I didn't do anything against the law besides speeding on the highway. What have the 99.999999999% of military members do to the surronding areas of bases besides provide a HUGE ammount of income into the bars and resturants and housing industry? You are way out there buddy. You had better thank those guys for thier service and be on your way. You have stumbled onto some shakey ground. Just watch yourself. I'll be there in Japan soon and if you have words about military personnel, bring 'em to me. You dig?

[AssKissinger]

I serve so you can protest and have the right to say assanine things like that.

Gee, I could never post on FG if you weren't in the Navy. Thanks!

I didn't rape anyone.

Well, three Marines duct taped a 13 year old girl to tree and ganged raped her in Okinawa.

Just watch yourself.

Maybe if you think really hard you can come up with a non-violent solution!


Look, man, I know a lot of people in the military are smart but still how can you blame bar owners for not wanting those meatheads in their clubs? Face it, those young kids get in a lot of fights. It's a big hassle. And seriously, a lot of those guys can barely fucking read.

[Greji]

Look, man, I know a lot of people in the military are smart but still how can you blame bar owners for not wanting those meatheads in their clubs? Face it, those young kids get in a lot of fights. It's a big hassle. And seriously, a lot of those guys can barely fucking read.

Ahh, AK, I did 23 years in the service and as a result, I must be barely able to read, so can you explain what it is that you are stating. Are you claiming that we are smart, but just illiterate?

The rate of crime per population percentage for the military is lower than that of the civilian rate, and no I do not have the exact stats and no I am not going to fucking research it for you.

Besides that I don't root for the fucking Utes!

[AssKissinger]

That was clever the way you found two seemingly contradictory statements and put them both in bold.

the service

I don't need your stats anyway. It's not like I don't know who starts fights in bars.

[omae mona]

Ahh, AK, I did 23 years in the service and as a result, I must be barely able to read, so can you explain what it is that you are stating. Are you claiming that we are smart, but just illiterate?

Come on guys. I think the sense of comradery and brotherhood the military inspires is a wonderful thing. But AK didn't even remotely accuse any of the individuals on FG of being illiterate or violent. If you want to defend your former comrades, that's cool, but don't think AK insulted you directly.

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The rate of crime per population percentage for the military is lower than that of the civilian rate, and no I do not have the exact stats and no I am not going to fucking research it for you.

Would you mind researching that? Actually that is interesting. I am going under the assumption that a lot of us think some kinds of discrimination is OK when it's rational. So the question here is whether the bar owner's entrance criteria are going to reduce crime or not.

gboothe, I have no doubt your stats are true, but isn't that for the US domestically? I'm very curious about whether the crime rate for military in Japan is lower or higher than for Americans in Japan overall. From the bar owner's point of view, that's probably more pertinent. Even more pertinent would be the local crime statistics on military versus non-military gaijin.

My interaction with active duty military in Japan has been pretty much limited to running into military families at zoos, amusement parks, aquariums, etc. They seemed pretty nice. So far I have not witnessed any violence or illiteracy, though one dude almost got in a knife fight with a penguin before his friends pulled him back.

[American Oyaji]

yeah. it's the nice ones that go to the zoo.

I'm ex military, so I KNOW. 1VB, dude. Get real. You know there are bad apples that spoil the bunch in the military.

[Greji]

Come on guys. I think the sense of comradery and brotherhood the military inspires is a wonderful thing. But AK didn't even remotely accuse any of the individuals on FG of being illiterate or violent. If you want to defend your former comrades, that's cool, but don't think AK insulted you directly.

Yes, but that doesn't make that type of a generalized statement any better. It is elitist at best and belittles millions of people who have and still continue to serve. I suppose with that analogy, all the people who have endeavored to be the best in their schools in order to obtain an appointment to Annapolis, Colorado Springs, or West Point are also lacking in some fundamental smarts, or intellect!

As far as these incidents themselves, the media in Japan are greatly influenced by inputs by various anti-US, or US military groups, who have historically, sought to make any military involved incidents, no matter how minor, a matter of country-wide negative news coverage. Obviously, the duct tape rape, or the robbery resulting in death of the woman in Yokohama were major offenses and like in any simular population of the size of the military presence in Japan, like it or not, unfortunate incidents will occur.

That's why we have a legal system, both for the military and for us as civilians.

Would you mind researching that? Actually that is interesting. I am going under the assumption that a lot of us think some kinds of discrimination is OK when it's rational. So the question here is whether the bar owner's entrance criteria are going to reduce crime or not.

gboothe, I have no doubt your stats are true, but isn't that for the US domestically? I'm very curious about whether the crime rate for military in Japan is lower or higher than for Americans in Japan overall. From the bar owner's point of view, that's probably more pertinent. Even more pertinent would be the local crime statistics on military versus non-military gaijin.

That's an interesting point OM! Let me see what I can come up with, but don't expect an answer within the next 20 minutes. I'm always late on homework assignments!

My interaction with active duty military in Japan has been pretty much limited to running into military families at zoos, amusement parks, aquariums, etc. They seemed pretty nice. So far I have not witnessed any violence or illiteracy, though one dude almost got in a knife fight with a penguin before his friends pulled him back.

Hey, I can agree on that. I've never liked those birds. You can never trust a penquin. Most of them always carry knives. They're almost as bad as seagulls.

[maraboutslim]

The bad reputation was earned. I purposefully grew a beard when I lived in Japan so no one would think I was in the military.

[Greji]

The bad reputation was earned. I purposefully grew a beard when I lived in Japan so no one would think I was in the military.

Was it really earned Slim? Or did the J(and even US)-media do another gaijin crime wave job?

[Mike Oxlong]

I think what irked a lot of Japanese was the US military's refusal to hand over suspects/those charged committing crimes off-base. Especially high-profile, violent crimes (like the gang rape of the schoolgirl in Okinawa). That has improved (maybe the same incident played a big role). But, in general, the reporting hasn't.

[Blah Pete]

The problem in Hiroshima is all the guys that head to town on the weekends are young Marines from Iwakuni. Anyone who has spent time in the military knows what I am talking about...

[(1VB)freels]

The problem in Hiroshima is all the guys that head to town on the weekends are young Marines from Iwakuni. Anyone who has spent time in the military knows what I am talking about...

You shouldn't have to put ALL of ther Jarheards in one barrel. I am a somewhat edjmacated American from the hallowed halls of VA and ME. I am still some what insulted in that accuacation that I am an illeratate and cumbersome individual. I have taken very hard tests. I have passed those tests. i have had to redo tesates that I failed. You shouldn't pocute us that are smarter then then ther average and abvoe average colge grad. Like Yourself. there is a saying in Naval avation. "it takes a colldge degree to break them but a high school diploma to fix therm," so still



Fuck you man..... you are on my shit list... I have friends...I will find you. Violence ani't ther issue. How is your credit score lately??? you may want to watch it.... No B.S.



(not to you Pete) ( He knows who I am talking about)

[(1VB)freels]

Gee, I could never post on FG if you weren't in the Navy. Thanks!


Well, three Marines duct taped a 13 year old girl to tree and ganged raped her in Okinawa.




Maybe if you think really hard you can come up with a non-violent solution!


Look, man, I know a lot of people in the military are smart but still how can you blame bar owners for not wanting those meatheads in their clubs? Face it, those young kids get in a lot of fights. It's a big hassle. And seriously, a lot of those guys can barely fucking read.

Did I mention that I hate you for your comments... I am a person with LOTS of connections...... Just you wait.

[GuyJean]

Did I mention that I hate you for your comments... I am a person with LOTS of connections...... Just you wait.

FBI's "Serious Misuse" of the Power
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/LAW/03/09/security.letters/index.html

The FBI is guilty of "serious misuse" of the power to secretly obtain private information under the Patriot Act, a government audit said Friday.

The Justice Department's inspector general looked at the FBI's use of national security letters, in which agents demand personal and business information about individuals -- such as financial, phone, and Internet records -- without court orders..

You better break out the 'shaking in my birkenstocks' smiley, AK.

GJ

[AssKissinger]

How is your credit score lately???

Pretty crappy.

[GuyJean]

Pretty crappy.

Was it 'crappy' before, or after you were threatened online?

Your answer could award you up to 2,500 dollars from the People's Court, and Mr. Freels a visit from the local authorities.

GJ

[amdg]

You shouldn't have to put ALL of ther Jarheards in one barrel. I am a somewhat edjmacated American from the hallowed halls of VA and ME. I am still some what insulted in that accuacation that I am an illeratate and cumbersome individual. I have taken very hard tests. I have passed those tests. i have had to redo tesates that I failed. You shouldn't pocute us that are smarter then then ther average and abvoe average colge grad. Like Yourself. there is a saying in Naval avation. "it takes a colldge degree to break them but a high school diploma to fix therm," so still



Fuck you man..... you are on my shit list... I have friends...I will find you. Violence ani't ther issue. How is your credit score lately??? you may want to watch it.... No B.S.



(not to you Pete) ( He knows who I am talking about)

I think you just summed up everything we need to know about you and the US armed forces. Cumbersome is the verdict.

[GuyJean]

Personally, I think a mandatory 2-year 'service' for your country is a good idea, whether it's military, or some other sort of volunteer work program. There would be plenty of benefits:

- lower taxes on the general public
- everyone trained in a specific field
- military would cease to be perceived as a 'last resort'
- differing 'classes' would work together
- military burdens shared by all, therefore
- war would tend to truly be the 'last choice'
- orgies every wednesday night

Wait.. What was I talking about?...

GJ

[AssKissinger]

Soldier pleads guilty to role in murders By KRISTIN M. HALL, Associated Press Writer
51 minutes ago



A Fort Campbell soldier pleaded guilty Wednesday to being an accessory to the rape and murder of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the slaying of her family.

Pfc. Bryan Howard, 20, also pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct justice by lying to his superior officers about the attack last year in Mahmoudiya, 20 miles south of Baghdad. It was one of the most shocking atrocities committed by U.S. troops in the Iraq war.

Howard could get up to 15 years in prison at a sentencing hearing that began Wednesday afternoon.

Five soldiers were charged in the rape of Abeer Qassim al-Janabi and the killings of her, her parents and her younger sister. Two of the soldiers previously pleaded guilty and said Howard's role was minimal.

Howard told the judge Wednesday he was left behind at a checkpoint while four other soldiers went to rape the girl. Howard said he overheard the four planning the attack.

Howard said he only started to realize that someone had been killed after the soldiers returned about 10 minutes later. He said the four soldiers were in a "hectic state and hyper."

Howard said he saw blood on one of the soldier's uniforms, but he didn't remember which one.

"I was slowly starting to believe what they had done, that they had committed the crimes, the rape and the murder," Howard said.

Spc. James P. Barker and Sgt. Paul E. Cortez, who have pleaded guilty to rape and murder, have said they took turns raping the girl while Pfc. Steven D. Green shot and killed her mother, father and younger sister. Green then shot Abeer in the head, they said.

Green, who is accused of being the ringleader but was discharged from the military before being charged, will be prosecuted in a federal court in Kentucky. He pleaded not guilty to charges including murder and sexual assault in the March 12, 2006, attack.

Barker said Howard and another soldier charged, Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman, did not participate in the rape and killings, but he said they were at the house when the assault occurred and had come knowing what the others intended to do.

Howard, of Huffman, Texas, was initially described as a lookout for the crime and other soldiers from the 101st Airborne have said he was not directly involved.

During Wednesday's hearing, Howard said Cortez and Green bragged about what they had done after they returned.

Howard said he knew Green shot at least one person, but he didn't know how many. Howard said he learned how many people had been killed when the battalion commander started to ask him about the attack.

Howard said he told investigators that he didn't believe the soldiers were involved, but "I told them Green was probably crazy enough to do it."

Howard said he implicated Green to draw the investigators' attention away from Barker, Cortez and Spielman.

Barker was sentenced to 90 years in prison and Cortez received 100.

Lawyers for Spielman have said he was not involved in the planning of the murders and rape. His court-martial is scheduled for April 2.

I guess they were performing a 'service'.