May Day Rally

[Visitor K]

The union I am involved in (フリーター全般労働組合: the freeter union) is organizing a May Day Rally on Monday April 30th (a public holiday) .. it starts in Okubo and continues into central Shinjuku.
If you can make it, please come out in support of the Japanese and non-Japanese working poor.
This is the website:
http://mayday2007.nobody.jp/index-en.html

It's also available in Korean and (of course) Japanese.

Here are pictures of the event last year:
http://www.mkimpo.com/diary/2006/mayday_06-04-30.html

Pass this information along to everyone you know and lend us your help!

[AssKissinger]

the freeter union

That's a great concept. I can totally dig what you're on about. I'm all for every human being exerting her or his right to exist comfortably while not sucking corporate cock. Kick that corporate dick in the dirt!

But what I don't dig is why yall always have to throw in the peace movement with the labor movement. Unless, you just want to be general anarchist activists why don't you keep the focus narrow? Although you can probably string together some kind of connection the real truth is peace activism is unrelated to labor activism. If you want to be a union, be a fucking union. And if you want to be people banded together to fight all injustices and tyranny, that's fine, but you're not a union then. If you're going to go on about peace then I expect you include the legalization of marijuana (as long you're going to include non-labor issues).

[Samurai_Jerk]

Why would I want to support a bunch of lazy fucks who are overpaid for hardly doing shit?

[Buraku]

Why would I want to support a bunch of lazy fucks who are overpaid for hardly doing shit?

[Charles]

May Day Mystery

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[kurohinge1]

[quote="Visitor K"]The union I am involved in (フ]

There's a freeter union?



Is there a neet union too?

[TFG]

Well, actually a peace movement does fit in with unions as when war starts it is the working class who get sent to be cannon fodder on the front lines, not the aristocracy.

[Visitor K]

But what I don't dig is why yall always have to throw in the peace movement with the labor movement.

Thanks for you words of support, and I can see your point about the peace activism being lumped together with worker solidarity.. but, as TFG mentioned, there are some connections between them, as it is in large part the poor that get shipped off to war to fight for corporate agendas (that is what most contemporary wars are truly about).

To everyone else giving sarcastic comments about freeters and NEETs being lazy or overpaid (!!), you dont seem to understand that it is the working poor that need to be unionized more than any other group. We (I was recently unlawfully fired from my job, and haven't been paid for a month and a half of work, so now I, too, am a freeter) are viewed by employers as an expendable commodity and are constantly being taken advantage of. The rich will never help the poor, so it is our responsibility to stand up for our rights (there are very strict labor laws in Japan that are constantly being broken).
I share a house with two other "freeters" and they chose the lifestyle in order to fulfill their dreams of being musicians, the term also applies to students with part time jobs.. so, i wouldnt say that all freeters are lazy, many just dont want to have to suck corporate cock in order to barely subsist.

[Takechanpoo]

Why would I want to support a bunch of lazy fucks who are overpaid for hardly doing shit?

:lol:

you fag laughing at English lesson, are you fag?
I admit actually english teacher is nothing but a overpaid and meaningless job.
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[AssKissinger]

Thanks for you words of support, and I can see your point about the peace activism being lumped together with worker solidarity.. but, as TFG mentioned, there are some connections between them, as it is in large part the poor that get shipped off to war to fight for corporate agendas (that is what most contemporary wars are truly about).

I agree with that but to tell the truth I don't really believe that's why you're including the peace activism in your labor movement. I think closer to the truth is you just can't resist. Arguing against a draft makes sense, but from a labor perspective, unless you're arguing for more pay and better conditions for enlisted men I think your stretch is bullshit. Arguing that soldiers shouldn't go to war is like arguing that factory workers shouldn't make cars. It's what they do. I'm with you on the peace activism but I resent the assumption that if I support a labor issue I'm going to be down with whatever leftist cause you're on about. Everytime you widen your focus you run the risk of alienating would be supporters. And what you are on about, pulling the corporate cock out of our asses, is right-on so stick on that tight. Don't dilute it with other issues.

To any of yall who aren't down with a freeter union...WTF?

What could be more important to the well-being of young people in Japan than their right have non-linear futures? How many souls do we have to see pierced through the heart by the corporate cock before we accept people's right to take a stand? Young people in Japan must demand their right to be able to mold their own existance without six and half day work weeks and never seeing the sun. They deserve livable compensation for reasonable hours so they can enjoy the gift of life.

Visitor K -> Rock the fuck on!

i wouldnt say that all freeters are lazy, many just dont want to have to suck corporate cock in order to barely subsist

[GomiGirl]

Young people in Japan must demand their right to be able to mold their own existance without six and half day work weeks and never seeing the sun. They deserve livable compensation for reasonable hours so they can enjoy the gift of life.

If you want to mold your own existance, then start your own company. Then you have nobody to bitch at. All it takes is a little imagination and lots of hard work and you can be your own boss. The barriers for starting your own company have been significantly decreased in recent years here in Japan. It is not very expensive at all.

If you work for somebody else, then you have to remember that you are supporting somebody elses business and being paid for doing meeting certain company needs. If you don't want to meet these needs then the company doesn't earn money and so can't pay wages or can't grow. Catch 22 situation.

You should choose your jobs carefully so as not to be doing something that you hate doing and thus be miserable and start slacking off and then get in trouble and perhaps sacked. Everything you get in this world you have to earn - either by yourself or for yourself.

[Samurai_Jerk]

AK and Visitor,

Thanks for supporting my point. People who choose to work part-time to be in a band or go to school are exactly the kind of people I'm talking about. What more do they deserve from their employers? I've got no problem with people doing their own thing but they shouldn't expect the rest of society to support them.

[Tsuru]

you fag laughing at English lesson, are you fag?
I admit actually english teacher is nothing but a overpaid and meaningless job.
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Overpaid and meaningless jobs are the best ones to have

[AssKissinger]

AK and Visitor,

Thanks for supporting my point. People who choose to work part-time to be in a band or go to school are exactly the kind of people I'm talking about. What more do they deserve from their employers? I've got no problem with people doing their own thing but they shouldn't expect the rest of society to support them.

This is about labor reform not welfare reform.

Everything you get in this world you have to earn - either by yourself or for yourself.

You know I'm an old fucker who knows which the wind blows, right?

[Mulboyne]

You know I'm an old fucker who knows which the wind blows, right?

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[Visitor K]

What more do they deserve from their employers? I've got no problem with people doing their own thing but they shouldn't expect the rest of society to support them.

they already have the support of society, in the form of labour laws established by the government]http://mayday2007.nobody.jp/approval.html)[/url]. And, to make my point more succinct: i'm not saying that unionizing in itself is directly related to war, but taking in the much larger aspect of May Day (that of anti-corporate aims) has a very real connection to the anti-war movement.. after all, what makes more money than a good war?

[AssKissinger]

VK


Take some pics and let us know how it goes. Good luck and rock on!

[Greji]

but a overpaid and meaningless job.
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Any job that is overpaid is an excellent job whether it has meaning, or not!

Also, you seem to keep mentioning fags an awful lot. Does that mean you smoke, or are you just looking for a date?

[Samurai_Jerk]

they already have the support of society, in the form of labour laws established by the government]http://mayday2007.nobody.jp/approval.html)[/url]. And, to make my point more succinct: i'm not saying that unionizing in itself is directly related to war, but taking in the much larger aspect of May Day (that of anti-corporate aims) has a very real connection to the anti-war movement.. after all, what makes more money than a good war?

Now you're talking about something else. I know plenty about J labor law and have used it in the past to get paid what I was owed too. But I have no sympathy for some dude in a band who chooses to work part-time so he can jam and complains about not making enough at his baito.

AK is right that it's unwise to tie your cause to others. It waters down your message and turns off people who might otherwise support the labor movement.

[Visitor K]

double post

[Visitor K]

Now you're talking about something else.

no. this whole time i have been supporting the same idea; bringing together people who want to support the ideals represented in May Day.. i didn't start this thread to have some abstract argument about the work ethic of japanese youth, and i didn't post this to change anyone's mind about the capitalist system or the connection of such a system to the politics of war (although i do feel a need to post my opinion about these things when such subjects were raised). i posted this thread for the exact same purpose as the May Day Rally, which is to raise awareness. there might be people here who wouldn't have known about this event and would like to take part in it (nobody has given a reply to make me believe this is true however) and that is precisely why i posted this.
that is all i have left to say.

[AssKissinger]

Isn't it ironic that you quote Ayn Rand in your sig?

[Visitor K]

Isn't it ironic that you quote Ayn Rand in your sig?

FINALLY someone has pointed this out!

i support her ideals as they pertain to the individual, but i do not think that those ideals should be applied to commerce (i think it's tragic that there are so many laws originally designed to help the individual, but have been used by corporations to rape said individuals; america's fourteenth amendment is probably the biggest tragedy of all: between 1890 and 1910, of the 307 cases claiming the 14th amendment only 15 were brought by african americans, the rest were corporations claiming to be "persons" discriminated by the state). i highly recommend the movie "the corporation" for anybody interested in such things..

it's really a love/hate relationship i have with ayn rand: i think she is possibly the best author to argue a philosophical ideal in the form of fiction since dostoevsky, which is the main reason i enjoy her.. even though sometimes when i read her, i want to pull out my hair.

irony is one of my favorite forms of rhetoric by the way, thanks for noticing.

[AssKissinger]

If Dostoevsky used The Fountainhead as toilet paper it would be an insult to his asshole.

[Visitor K]

If Dostoevsky used The Fountainhead as toilet paper it would be an insult to his asshole.

yah, i knew i shouldnt have posted that bit.. but, as i said, i think in terms of converging a story with a philosophical argument (and only on that one term), ms. rand is rather adept. when it comes to other matters of her fiction (style, plot development, dialogue) of course i would rather read the brothers karamazov than atlas shrugged. but, again that is my opinion.. and its getting way off topic here, so ill leave it at that.

anyways, if anyone wants to join the rally, its next week.. im sewing together my red/black flag now.. the first hour of the rally will be presentations (all in japanese) so if you dont know japanese come a little late (the actual march happens at 2:30). i hope there are some non-vocal members that can make it!

[Visitor K]

if anyone is interested, more than 400 people showed up to the rally (more than anticipated) and it got quite a bit of media attention in japan. there was a dj in a truck that led the rally (or rather followed the police truck) and people had fun in their own ways, whether it was dancing, getting their message across, or just confronting the piece of shit japanese pigs.
here are some pictures and a video:
http://www.mkimpo.com/diary/2007/mayday_07-04-30_bis.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebbEXlWBJXA

[Charles]

The 2007 May Day Mystery.

[Visitor K]

for anyone interested, here is a youtube video of the may day rally in tokyo this year.. more people attended this year, with an ending count of about 1000 people.
anybody make it to this one?
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and some pictures/blog

[hundefar]

speaking of Ayn Rand..

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[Charles]

A bit late but..


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