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TOKYO, June 2 (UPI) -- The Japanese government plans to give Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. nearly $3.3 billion to develop and promote a passenger jetliner.
The Mitsubishi Regional Jet is scheduled to be put into service in 2012, The Yomiuri Shimbun reported Saturday.
The MRJ, with a capacity of 70 to 90 seats, will be the first Japanese-produced passenger aircraft since the YS-11 small turboprop airliner, which was discontinued in 1973, the Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry of Japan said in announcing the subsidy.
The Ministry will provide the subsidies from fiscal 2008 to fiscal 2011.
Captain Japan wrote:The Japanese government plans to give Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. nearly $3.3 billion to develop and promote a passenger jetliner.
Which is about as Japanese as sushi pizza. It was paid for, designed and built by Honda USA, only the engines are Japanese. And then maybe.American Oyaji wrote:Umm. Japan has already started...
https://hondajet.honda.com/default.aspx?bhcp=1
That the research that went into the engine development is American as well. I'm more impressed with the C-X and it's big high bypass turbofans.Captain Japan wrote:What do you suspect?
Many engineers and executives in Japan Inc. have long dreamed of bringing the country back into the skies. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries will take a step toward that goal next week when it unveils a mockup of the cabin of its planned MRJ passenger jet at the Paris Air Show next week. The Japanese industrial giant is seeking to get a sense of whether there is sufficient interest for its 70- to 90-passenger regional jet, which it has been developing since 2003...more...
Tsuru wrote:...In the summer of 2005 I walked 10km in the 37-degree heat from some JR-station in the inaka just so I could visit the Gifu Aerospace museum and its centerpiece, the Kawasaki ASUKA STOL aircraft based on the C-1A to carefully observe its intricate aerodynamic design and control systems.
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Tsuru wrote:Yeah, it's called spending six years in college to become an aerospace engineer.
Be thankful there's something unusual I like about Japan. In the summer of 2005 I walked 10km in the 37-degree heat from some JR-station in the inaka just so I could visit the Gifu Aerospace museum and its centerpiece, the Kawasaki ASUKA STOL aircraft based on the C-1A to carefully observe its intricate aerodynamic design and control systems.
When I'm in Tokyo next month I will see if I can visit the Yushukan at Yasukuni jinja to have a look at their original Zero.
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is Japan's largest aerospace manufacturer and a premier collaborator with Boeing, Bombardier, Lockheed Martin and others on fighters, business, regional and commercial jets. But it hasn't built a commercial airplane of its own for more than three decades and its last attempt, a turboprop, was an economic disaster.
Now the company is poised to put itself - and Japan - back in the business of designing and building commercial aircraft. The board of directors has granted its aerospace business unit authority to offer the Mitsubishi Regional Jet (MRJ) to airlines. By about Apr. 1, the start of fiscal 2008 in Japan, a formal launch decision is expected, says Senior Vice President Nobuo Toda, a member of the board and director of the MRJ project.
The Japanese government is expected to foot a substantial portion of the estimated $1.9-billion development cost, although Toda says the specific contribution is still being negotiated. Early this month Toyota Motor Corp. confirmed that it was considering a substantial investment in the project, and a Mitsubishi official says the company is in talks with several other potential Japanese investors...more...
Mock Cockpit wrote:So the planes are coming. I suppose it's too much to hope that real Japanese budget airline will emerge in the near future.
SMH wrote:
Japan on Friday launched a project to build its first ever passenger jet, a next-generation regional airliner that aims to meet growing demand for fuel efficient planes.
The state-backed Mitsubishi Regional Jet is expected to take to the skies in 2013, carrying Japan's hopes of developing a full-fledged civil aviation industry with it.
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd (MHI) [Edit: the same crew that brought you the fiery F2 flop] said it had decided to go ahead with the commercial development of the plane after landing its first order from All Nippon Airways for up to 25 aircraft.
. . . Japan has in the past developed a turboprop plane, the YS-11, which was the only Japanese airliner built since World War II. It made its debut flight in 1962 but has limited success with production ending in 1974.
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Japan also has a dream of developing a supersonic airliner to replace Concorde. It successfully tested a scale model in 2005 with the aid of a rocket, three years after a first attempt ended in a fiery crash in the Australian desert . . . more
Tsuru wrote:And they work!
Well, at least the maritime patrol plane with indigenous engines does... the other is still bogged down with fatigue problems..
Tsuru wrote:Thoughts?
I did see a version of this up close, and I must say I like it. Very utilitarian.FG Lurker wrote:That's a seriously ugly plane. Was it designed by Toyota or something!?
Tsuru wrote:I did see a version of this up close, and I must say I like it. Very utilitarian.
Well, it's quite a bit fatter and bigger than the old C-1, it's almost like they made a 767 out of a DC-9. From the numbers I would say this is a seriously overpowered beast. The closest thing to compare it with in the civilian world is a 767, which as it is an ETOPS bird it's no slouch to begin with. It is about the same size and has the same max thrust, but it's quite a bit lighter (60T empty for the XC-2 vs. 86T empty for the 767-300 freighter). It also carries a bit less, 37.6T payload for the XC-2 and 54T for the 767. The main difference is of course that the XC-2 can do this everywhere off anything and does not require loading equipment, and the 767 needs a nice clean, paved surface and loading lift.Greji wrote:It doesn't look much different than the old model Tsuru. What's it got new?
Tsuru wrote: The A400M probably has it beat on very short strips though, as having four big props always beats having two underslung jets because of the lift bonus.
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