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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:50 am

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Postby Tsuru » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:59 am

This bullshit is exactly why Sweden is on the internet as well.
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Postby Charles » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:18 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:The Simpsons Movie is opening all over the world next month but we get to wait till Spring 2008.

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:34 am

Charles wrote:Image


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Postby Tsuru » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:42 am

Charles wrote:Image
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"Doing engineering calculations with the imperial system is like wiping your ass with acorns, it works, but it's painful and stupid."

"Plus, it's British."

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Postby Oradea » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:48 am

Options
1.just download it like everyone else.
2.Wait, and stop complaining.
3.Move/go on vacation to a country that has it.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:18 am

Oradea wrote:Options
1.just download it like everyone else.

Uh oh.. you're gonna piss off the copyright-enforcing FG ghestapos.
You better watch out.
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Postby Oradea » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:39 am

Thats why there was more than one option.
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Postby james » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:14 am

i'll be in canada from the middle of july until the beginning of august. i'll let you all know how it is. i do however, totally agree, that having it open all over the world and then so much later in japan really sucks. i can't imagine that the translation / subtitling / voice overs really takes that much longer, so why the obscene delay?
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Postby Charles » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:16 pm

james wrote:i'll be in canada from the middle of july until the beginning of august. i'll let you all know how it is. i do however, totally agree, that having it open all over the world and then so much later in japan really sucks. i can't imagine that the translation / subtitling / voice overs really takes that much longer, so why the obscene delay?

I read a blog for animators, he says they're STILL making last minute revisions to the film. At this point, it looks like it will barely make the US release date. But the changes are mostly visual tweaks so it doesn't affect the audio tracks.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:34 pm

james wrote:i'll be in canada from the middle of july until the beginning of august. i'll let you all know how it is. i do however, totally agree, that having it open all over the world and then so much later in japan really sucks. i can't imagine that the translation / subtitling / voice overs really takes that much longer, so why the obscene delay?

Isn't it that the same person/small team of people do practically all of the subtitling in Japan? Some tiny cartel controls how movies are translated/interpreted to the Japanese.
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Postby Doctor Stop » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:34 pm

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Postby Charles » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:49 pm

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Postby ttjereth » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:43 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:Isn't it that the same person/small team of people do practically all of the subtitling in Japan? Some tiny cartel controls how movies are translated/interpreted to the Japanese.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natsuko_Toda

And her translations suck too :rolleyes:
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Postby Midwinter » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:11 pm

If Japan doesn't view itself as a part of the global community, I don't see why Fox has to include it when they announce something having a worldwide release.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:00 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:The Simpsons Movie is opening all over the world next month but we get to wait till Spring 2008.

At least they will show it here in Japan, eventually. Think of the demographics. Most Japanese won't understand half of the jokes and the movie will be ruined by half-assed translation. Fox will not try to entertain the small gaijin population living in Japan.

If you want to see it badly, fly to Korea. If not, choose option 1. Get over it.
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Postby MaxPower » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:20 pm

ttjereth wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natsuko_Toda

And her translations suck too :rolleyes:


haha no kidding, the translations really suck sometimes.
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Postby baka tono » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:03 pm

Spring 2008 thats insane. I hate Japan.
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Postby MaxPower » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:13 am

hey what is with all the deleted posts in this thread?
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Postby IkemenTommy » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:38 am

baka tono wrote:Spring 2008 thats insane. I hate Japan.

Hey, if only the locals here had a better understanding of English, now the global language that the rest of the world has embraced, maybe.. just maybe the Simpsons would have been released at the same time. Instead, Japan still has the stick up its ass thinking that they won WWII and that the universe revolves around it so they refuse to learn languages other than Japanese.

By the time the movie hits the theaters here, I am sure the DVD would already be out. :suspect:
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Postby ttjereth » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:33 am

IkemenTommy wrote:Hey, if only the locals here had a better understanding of English, now the global language that the rest of the world has embraced, maybe.. just maybe the Simpsons would have been released at the same time. Instead, Japan still has the stick up its ass thinking that they won WWII and that the universe revolves around it so they refuse to learn languages other than Japanese.

By the time the movie hits the theaters here, I am sure the DVD would already be out. :suspect:


I think there's a lot of "cultural in-jokes" in the Simpsons that would make it considerably less interesting to non-Americans even if they spoke native or fluent English?

It's nowhere near as popular in the U.K. or Oz is it?
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Postby Oradea » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:29 am

MaxPower wrote:hey what is with all the deleted posts in this thread?



Deleted posts? they all seem to be there as far as I can tell, no obvious signs of deletion.
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Postby Marked Trail » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:53 am

Oradea wrote:
MaxPower wrote:hey what is with all the deleted posts in this thread?
Deleted posts? they all seem to be there as far as I can tell, no obvious signs of deletion.

It's beyond fucked...

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Postby American Oyaji » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:46 am

I attempted to fuck Japan.

I failed. Gave a good effort though.
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Postby xenomorph42 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:23 pm

I don`t know why anyone would be surprised by all this. This is not the first time something like this happened. Has anyone noticed that Columbia/Sony releases big blockbusters usually either the same time as the rest of the world or BEFORE. Anything else...can wait:rolleyes:
They don`t care, they never learn, they take pride in being so-called unique to the rest of the world in many aspects.
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Postby halfnip » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:19 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:Hey, if only the locals here had a better understanding of English, now the global language that the rest of the world has embraced, maybe.. just maybe the Simpsons would have been released at the same time. Instead, Japan still has the stick up its ass thinking that they won WWII and that the universe revolves around it so they refuse to learn languages other than Japanese.

By the time the movie hits the theaters here, I am sure the DVD would already be out. :suspect:


Amazing... Japan is completely "fucked" and it's all because they don't embrace the English language. It's Japan... And quite frankly, if you don't like it, they'd just tell you to get the fuck OUT. I am sure it has to do with politics (as it always does here), but it's like trying to argue with the misses when she's on her period----it's a lost battle. Could it have anything to do with the Simpson's still being shown on Fox here in Japan, etc.?
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:08 pm

They have the Chinese and Korean sites up already but not the Japan site - presumably there's little point so far ahead of the release date. It looks like the Japanese version of the soundtrack will get a later release too.

Don't forget that the TV series in Japan is dubbed - here are Homer and Marge:

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If the film also uses Japanese voice actors then it won't be a lot of fun to watch in the cinema anyway. However, the Japanese FOX link that SJ posted lists the US voice actors. Either this means that they haven't made up their minds yet or else they might be going with a subtitled version. The original schedule for Japan suggested it would open in winter.

Japan is a more lucrative market for film than China or Korea so I can see why Fox may have decided it was better to see how it plays overseas before deciding what kind of marketing to give it. Pushing it back to next spring suggests that they still aren't certain. It's worth remembering that the Simpsons don't have a high profile in Japan. They might be recognized as characters but the humour and in-jokes are are not well-known. It was shown on WOWOW from 1992 to 2002 and subsequently appeared on the Fox Channel. There were only occasional appearances on local networks so it has never had a full-scale terrestrial run.

The Simpsons episode, "Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo", featuring Homer wrestling the Emperor, a Hello Kitty Factory and seizure-inducing Pokemon anime, has apparently never been shown in Japan. The DVD edition of series 10 isn't out yet so it will be interesting to see if it gets included. Some other episodes from Season 3 and Season 6 were also not shown but did appear on the respective DVDs. In Season 11, there was an episode called "Little Big Mom" which featured a scene with a joke about Hansen's disease patients. This was also not shown after complaints from Hansen's sufferers in Japan.
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Postby ichigo partygirl » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:22 pm

ttjereth wrote:I think there's a lot of "cultural in-jokes" in the Simpsons that would make it considerably less interesting to non-Americans even if they spoke native or fluent English?

It's nowhere near as popular in the U.K. or Oz is it?


If you thought that then pretty much every major movie or TV show wouldnt work overseas. Sure there are some American in-jokes, but as American culture is worldwide and most of us learn about American history/politics we pick them up. Believe me the Simpsons is just as popular overseas.
Im really looking forward to the movie myself which will be released 26th July here in NZ
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Postby ttjereth » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:23 pm

ichigo partygirl wrote:If you thought that then pretty much every major movie or TV show wouldnt work overseas. Sure there are some American in-jokes, but as American culture is worldwide and most of us learn about American history/politics we pick them up. Believe me the Simpsons is just as popular overseas.
Im really looking forward to the movie myself which will be released 26th July here in NZ


Granted there's going to be some culture-specific stuff in any show, but the Simpsons (and a lot of humor in general) requires a more in depth knowledge of some fairly odd-ball pop-culture (not just history/politics) in order to get a lot of the jokes, than say ER or another drama-type show.

Most of my Ozzie and Brit friends don't watch it and never have watched it (regularly, they may have seen an episode or three) which left me with the impression it wasn't as popular, since the majority of male Americans in my generation seem to have watched it regularly during at least some point in their lives. Not solid evidence or anything obviously, but that's why my original post is phrased as a question =)

I'm curious if you've seen Family Guy, and if that is popular in other English-speaking countries? The humor in that show tends to be close to 100% pop-culture in-jokes so I wouldn't think it would translate very well (but I don't know to what extent 80's and 90's US pop-culture has extended to other English-speaking countries. Does the average NZ'er know who the kool aid man is, or would they get jokes based off of the GI Joe cartoons from the 80's?).
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:28 pm

I'm half-expecting you to wonder if we can eat hamburgers.
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