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the 'Who has permanent status' thread

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Postby momotobananaoishii » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:22 pm

Since becoming married I've become quite interested in the permanent status option. Why not, I love Japan so it's a great perk yo.

Those of you who have permanent status would you be so kind as to tell us what your status was at the time of application?

Where you married?
Married with kids?
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches?
Own a house?
Boned the immigration officer?
Fluent in Japanese?
Canadian? American?
Teacher or banker?
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office?


What things did you find out later that you wish you knew before hand? Or what were you glad that you already prepared for?

Thanks
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Postby IkemenTommy » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:29 pm

momotobananaoishii wrote:Teacher?

As in Eikwaiwa sensei? I don't think you can qualify for that.
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Postby GomiGirl » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:38 pm

momotobananaoishii wrote:Canadian? American?
Teacher or banker?


Kinda a bit narrow there.. there are quite a few polls in the archives that cover most of the stuff you are asking.
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Postby eighty5er » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:59 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Kinda a bit narrow there..


No one cares about the other 6,129,173,000 people in the world. It's obvious, we are insignificant.

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Postby momotobananaoishii » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:01 pm

This isn't a poll. I'm interested in knowing what kind of paperwork people prepared and various other things.
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Postby akatsuka » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:31 pm

Curious question... has anyone here managed to get permanent residence status not through marriage - i.e. job etc?
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Postby CrankyBastard » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:11 pm

momotobananaoishii wrote:Since becoming married I've become quite interested in the permanent status option. Why not, I love Japan so it's a great perk yo.

Those of you who have permanent status would you be so kind as to tell us what your status was at the time of application?

Where you married?
Married with kids?
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches?
Own a house?
Boned the immigration officer?
Fluent in Japanese?
Canadian? American?
Teacher or banker?
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office?


What things did you find out later that you wish you knew before hand? Or what were you glad that you already prepared for?

Thanks



Where you married? =No.
Married with kids? =No.
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches? =1960s' Who knows?
Own a house? =Was living in company sponsored housing.
Boned the immigration officer? =He wasn't that cute.
Fluent in Japanese? = So so.
Canadian? American? =No.
Teacher or banker? =No.
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? =You're joking,,,,,,right?
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Postby momotobananaoishii » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:42 pm

CrankyBastard wrote:Where you married? =No.
Married with kids? =No.
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches? =1960s' Who knows?
Own a house? =Was living in company sponsored housing.
Boned the immigration officer? =He wasn't that cute.
Fluent in Japanese? = So so.
Canadian? American? =No.
Teacher or banker? =No.
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? =You're joking,,,,,,right?
LMAO

I like you Cranky. You made me laugh till it hurts. What you don't like building a rapport with government officers? :P He wasn't that cute. Hahahahahaa

You got permanent status in 1960's? Holy shit mate. You're a permanent status pioneer! I loved those 1960's Japanese girls in that Bond flick. I think he married one too. You lived the real style of the 1960's love hotels that I like so much now. Damn you should be Lucky Bastard.
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Postby Greji » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:40 am

momotobananaoishii wrote:Since becoming married I've become quite interested in the permanent status option. Why not, I love Japan so it's a great perk yo.

Those of you who have permanent status would you be so kind as to tell us what your status was at the time of application?


Where you married?
Occasionally

Married with kids?
Six, that we mention in public, the others ain't your business!

Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches?
Quite a bit. I'm also a mugger on the side.

Own a house?
Not at time of application. Lived in J-government housing.

Boned the immigration officer?
He had a cute ass, but my damn wife wouldn't let me give him a roll.

Fluent in Japanese?
Can get bed and bred in either language

Canadian? American?
Neither I'm from Chicago.

Teacher or banker?
J-government foundation exec and part time pimp.

Were you able to develop a rapport with the office?
Nobody can do that, but it ain't really necessary.

Actually, application is pretty well spelled out for you, so you just fill out the paperwork and submit it. One point would be that normally, your reference(s) cannot be related to dear wife and self.


What things did you find out later that you wish you knew before hand? Or what were you glad that you already prepared for?

Nothing really, as I said it is all spelled out for you.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:36 am

gboothe wrote:Where you married?
Occasionally

Married with kids?
Six, that we mention in public, the others ain't your business!

Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches?
Quite a bit. I'm also a mugger on the side.

Own a house?
Not at time of application. Lived in J-government housing.

Boned the immigration officer?
He had a cute ass, but my damn wife wouldn't let me give him a roll.

Fluent in Japanese?
Can get bed and bred in either language

Canadian? American?
Neither I'm from Chicago.

Teacher or banker?
J-government foundation exec and part time pimp.

Were you able to develop a rapport with the office?
Nobody can do that, but it ain't really necessary.

Actually, application is pretty well spelled out for you, so you just fill out the paperwork and submit it. One point would be that normally, your reference(s) cannot be related to dear wife and self.


What things did you find out later that you wish you knew before hand? Or what were you glad that you already prepared for?

Nothing really, as I said it is all spelled out for you.

You're more than qualified
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Postby dimwit » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:17 am

Where you married? Yep
Married with kids? Yep
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches? Hate to quibble but the average gaijin works in a company as a trainee/indentured servent
Own a house? Pending
Boned the immigration officer? She was a lesbo bitch so I couldn't get near her
Fluent in Japanese? Nope
Canadian? American? Yep
Teacher or banker? Yep
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? Isn't that kinda like developing a rapport with a parole officier?
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Postby FG Lurker » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:10 am

Where you married? So my wife tells me.
Married with kids? 1 little monster.
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches? Yep.
Own a house? Yep.
Boned the immigration officer? Fuck no! Have you ever been to immigration!?
Fluent in Japanese? Enough so.
Canadian? American? Kanuckistani.
Teacher or banker? IT management.
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? See "boned" above.

It's a pretty straightforward process. The "rule of thumb" for the average gaijin is that you need to have been living in-country for about 5 years if you are married to a j-nat. If you are not married it is a lot murkier but likely at least 10 years. A good income (ie paying lots of tax) helps, and land ownership might help somewhat too. Basically they want to see that you have intentions to live here permanently and that you will be a productive (tax-paying) member of society.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:34 am

FG Lurker wrote:...The "rule of thumb" for the average gaijin is that you need to have been living in-country for about 5 years if you are married to a j-nat. If you are not married it is a lot murkier but likely at least 10 years...

For the unmarried, it's at least 10 years of STABLE employment or owning a tax-paying business---No job hopping or owning a disco-of-the-month.
Being outwardly gay or handicapped is also big negative point in Immigration's eyes if you're an unmarried gaijin applying for permanent status. [floatr]
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Postby canman » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:33 am

Where you married? Yes
Married with kids? Yes
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches? Yes
Own a house? Yes
Boned the immigration officer? No
Fluent in Japanese? English and French
Canadian? American? Canadian, eh!
Teacher or banker? Teacher
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? The fucker at the immigration office hated me and told my wife that helping me change my status was a big mistake.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:27 am

Where you married? GBoothe
Married with kids? GBoothe
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches? GBoothe
Own a house? GBoothe
Boned the immigration officer? GBoothe
Fluent in Japanese? GBoothe
Canadian? American? GBoothe
Teacher or banker? GBoothe
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? I moonlight as a rapporteur, so...yeah.
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Postby amdg » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:28 am

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Postby FG Lurker » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:12 pm

One thing I have heard about getting permanent residence is that if immigration denies your application once then it is much harder to get it approved if you apply again in the future.

When applying, if your "immigration officer du jour" gives indication that things might not go well then it is best to not apply at all. Find out what problems s/he sees and take care of them before submitting the application.
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Postby amdg » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:43 pm

Hmm, interesting FG Lurker, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
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Postby james » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:33 pm

Where you married? very.
Married with kids? yes
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches? yes.
Own a house? not yet.
Boned the immigration officer? he wasn't my type, by virtue of being a "he".
Fluent in Japanese? english, french & japanese
Canadian? American? canuckistani.
Teacher or banker? teacher, IT dood.
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? they sorta know me. being inaka, it's easier for them to recognize fluent gaijin when they come in.

and do take lurker's advice to heart - if the officer is dropping hints that something may be amiss or something needs to be corrected or that certain things make it "muzukashii", he's not shitting on you and he's not shitting you. politely ask for suggestions (assuming he's not being a douchebag like in canman's case) and fix whatever needs fixing before applying.

in my case, things went very smoothly, even though i'd had a spousal visa lapse.
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Postby momotobananaoishii » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:44 pm

canman wrote:Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? The fucker at the immigration office hated me and told my wife that helping me change my status was a big mistake.

why would someone say that? What city was it?

James wrote:Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? they sorta know me. being inaka, it's easier for them to recognize fluent gaijin when they come in.
what do you mean?

James wrote:in my case, things went very smoothly, even though i'd had a spousal visa lapse.
don't they boot you out for that? Like major detention time?
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Postby omae mona » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:45 pm

Where you married? yes
Married with kids? yes
Higher income than the average gaijin who teaches? not sure, but maybe
Own a house? no
Boned the immigration officer? yes
Fluent in Japanese? no (believe me, 1-kyuu exam does not imply fluency)
Canadian? American? yes
Teacher or banker? no
Were you able to develop a rapport with the office? see above response re: boning


Be aware of tax implications. Your worldwide income becomes taxable in Japan when you acquire PR status. This also kicks in if you've been in Japan longer than 5 years, even without obtaining PR status. That means you gotta tell the J-tax folks about your overseas investments if you have any.
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Postby momotobananaoishii » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:32 pm

omae mona wrote:Be aware of tax implications. Your worldwide income becomes taxable in Japan when you acquire PR status. This also kicks in if you've been in Japan longer than 5 years, even without obtaining PR status. That means you gotta tell the J-tax folks about your overseas investments if you have any.

Who would divulge that info? They never knew before I lived in Japan so how would they even begin to know afterwards?Does any gaijin really report this stuff?????
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Postby CrankyBastard » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:50 pm

momotobananaoishii wrote:Who would divulge that info? They never knew before I lived in Japan so how would they even begin to know afterwards?Does any gaijin really report this stuff?????


Only if you're intaxicated.:D
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Postby Charles » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:53 pm

BTW, I just had to comment, I keep seeing and misreading the poorly capitalized and punctuated thread title,

"The Who has permanent status thread"

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