Face The Truth

[ekalmus]

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"Face The Truth"

Do Not Give Japan A Permanent Seat On The UN Security Council !

Japan must live up to its international promises before it can be trusted to protect international security.

Japan signed the United Nations Childrens Rights Convention but fails to fulfill it's obligations.

Japan signed the Untied Nations Convention on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination but has no laws stopping Racial Discrimination.

Should they be allowed a permanent seat?

The Japan Childrens Rights Network says NO !!!

[Ptyx]

from this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Rights_of_Children#U.S._status

"U.S. status

The United States and Somalia have signed the Convention, but never completed their ratification processes. On February 16, 1995, Madeleine Albright, at the time the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, signed the Convention. Though generally supportive of the Convention, President Bill Clinton did not submit it to the Senate for its advice and consent.

"The United States has had particular difficulties in ratifying the "CRC" in part due to strong opposition by conservatives to the treaty. In addition, certain provisions of the CRC, such as the prohibition on sentencing of juveniles to life imprisonment with no opportunity for parole (Art. 37), are contrary to the laws in many U.S. states. The administration of president George W. Bush has explicitly stated its opposition to the treaty:

"The Convention on the Rights of the Child may be a positive tool for promoting child welfare for those countries that have adopted it. But we believe the text goes too far when it asserts entitlements based on economic, social and cultural rights. ... The human rights-based approach ... poses significant problems as used in this text." "

The World Children Rights Network says NO !!!

[ekalmus]

Thank you for your reply Komuslobi.

If you do further research, and not just copy and paste from wikipidia you will find that the united states has laws that cover EVERY piece of the UNCRC. Therefore there is no issue as to whether the US implements the UNCRC. Your country - Japan has NO LAWS regarding children’s rights, and CAN NOT even implement the UNCRC because the Japanese court system has no way of enforcing it's decisions when it comes to civil matters. The USA has everything in place the UNCRC offers without having to implement it and the ability to enforce its legal decisions.

When the USA needs help with laws - such as laws regarding international parental abduction it does jump right on board and sign things such as the Hague Convention on International Parental Abduction. But as we all know Japan again refuses to follow international standards and protects Japanese abductors.

In addition you failed to discuss the fact that Japan has no laws regarding racial discrimination and the fact that Japan supports Racial Discrimination. Is it truly OK for the police to stop, and question people because they dont "look" japanese. Why didn’t you share your reasoning that it is ok when Japan refuses to implement laws against racial discrimination when the country signed the UCERD?

Lets all say no to Japan ever getting a permanant seat on the secuirty council. How can the world be secure if a country such as Japan is given the power to uphold laws it disregards?

Best Regards;

Eric Kalmus
Japan Children's Rights Network

[Greji]

How can the world be secure if a country such as Japan is given the power to uphold laws it disregards?

Not trying to be funny, but with the UN, what difference does it make? Look at the countries that have been "Named" to their Human Rights Councils and organizations to identify and combat discrimantion. Some of the most flagrant abusers!

[omae mona]

How can the world be secure if a country such as Japan is given the power to uphold laws it disregards?

Very likely my lunchtime pina colada is affecting my reading skills, but does that question make any sense at all?

[ekalmus]

gboothe wrote:

"Not trying to be funny, but with the UN, what difference does it make? Look at the countries that have been "Named" to their Human Rights Councils and organizations to identify and combat discrimination. Some of the most flagrant abusers!"


When it comes to getting a permanent seat on the Security Council a country that doesn't uphold it's obligations to the United Nations will never be considered for such an important position.

Japan pushes for a seat - they have not been "named."

One question for you in regards to the countries you are speaking of. Are any of those countries signatory to the Convention on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination? Did you know that Japan is the only signatory that doesn't have any laws in place against racial discrimination?

Thank you for your comments.

Eric Kalmus

[ekalmus]

Very likely my lunchtime pina colada is affecting my reading skills, but does that question make any sense at all?

Must be that Pina Colada...

[Takechanpoo]

Hey ekalmus,
You dudes' method absolutely happens useless emotional backlash among Japanese nationals.
Why you need to relate this problem to UN permanent seat or abuduction issue by General Kimchi?
You should treat ONLY J-government as enemy.
Don't treat whole Japan or Japanese as enemy.
If you really want to solve this problem, use another method like keeping Japanese nationals as supporter.

or you are supported or donated by anti-Japan organization of C or K?

[kurohinge1]

. . . Your country - Japan . . .

I wasn't lucky enough to score a pina colada this lunchtime, unlike Omae Mona, but here's my post-bento, pre-siesta thoughts:

1. Don't assume Ptyx is Japanese and/or that he is the author of any legislation that has not been passed but which the Japanese reportedly now seek to uphold.
2. The Security Council doesn't often ask here at FG for our votes, except when it comes to less important issues like whether to buy decaf coffee for the kitchen, which was voted against by a tight margin of 4:3 (not everyone voted).
3. Tackling anti-discrimination in Japan is under control - Our man in Japan Dave Aldwinckle (aka "Debito") has the sole responsibility for sorting it out, and seems to be doing a good job, so we've left it to him. Of course, being only one man, the job is expected to take a bit longer than expected and so we've been authorised to clone him if we don't find another way to prolong his life until the expected completion date of 3018.
4. Child abduction, by ex-partners at least, is probably best prevented at your home country (eg: airport watch lists), rather than closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. See also: Japan Parental Child Abduction- U.S. State Dept. Warning

Otherwise, good luck with changing what you can, and living with what you can't.

[bolt_krank]

Takechan:

Calm down mate. You're pretty paranoid towards C and K.

[jwatcher0914]

If you really want to solve this problem, use another method like keeping Japanese nationals as supporter.

There are plenty of Japanese people who support the same goals as we do. See

Father's Website
Separated Children's Support Group

both in Japanese. (English description of the class action lawsuit asking for joint custody and legal visitationin last reference above.) There are many other websites and blogs with messages opposing that this kind of behavior as well. All written by Japanese.

We have plenty of Japanese supporters.

[jwatcher0914]

from this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Rights_of_Children#U.S._status

"U.S. status.....The United States and Somalia have signed the Convention, but never completed their ratification processes.

So let me see. By giving us this information, you must be saying the United States is the perfect role model, and Japan (and presumably the rest of the world) should do everything that the US does, or in this case, does not.

Well, even as a US citizen myself, I would not go quite that far....

If you are not saying this, I'm not sure why you posted this information. Or perhaps you are saying that since the US hasn't signed it, then Japan does not have to follow it. Well, that is patently false.

The facts are that Japan HAS signed and ratified this UN treaty. Therefore Japan is obliged to follow it. Remember, we are talking about children in Japan here. Add to this another treaty Japan has signed and doesn't follow, the CERD, and another on serving legal papers, and you start to see a pattern. A pattern that firstly indicates dishonesty with respect to international obligations and secondly, due to the nature of the treaties involved, disrespect for people of non-Japanese racial origin.

This is not the profile of a country I want to see as a permanent member of the UN Security Council.

Do not give Japan a permanent seat on the UN Security Council !!

[Ptyx]

Yes, as the most powerful member of the security council, the U.S should act as role model and should be the first one to respect the U.N charter.

You can say it doesn't change a thing, but i think it does. If you're not abiding the law you cannot ask someone else to abide those same laws.
Japan would fit right in the security council, they have that same brand of hypocrisy that so many of the members have.
Do you think that Japan being a permanent member of the U.N Security Council would make the world a much more horrible place than it already is ?

The U.N Security Council is a fraud, its composition is completely absurd. France and Britain are part of it but there are no country from Africa, no country from the Middle-east, and no country from South-America. The members are members because they won a war half a century ago.
What they did is basically create an organization to shape the world as they pleased while all the other countries of the world could follow or get fucked.
It's a moral order as long as it fits their need, if not they have no problem with going above it.
They say they maintain balance, but in reality all they ever maintained was the appropriate climate to do business as usual.
The other reason of the Security Council is that they have the Bomb, so they needed to keep in touch in such formal manner, just in case.
But even that has no reason to be anymore since, Israel, Pakistan and India got the Bomb too. They couldn't even stop that from happening that's how useless they are.

But yeah, i agree, i think Japan should comply to any treaty that they have signed.
The real problem is that the U.N is unable to make their treaty and regulations respected by just about anyone.
And why's that ? Because the founding members of the U.N are the first to consider the U.N treaties as a set of "guidelines" rather than the Law.

I'm sick of that "they didn't respect that U.N resolution, they're evil" argument that's been going on for decades.
The truth is, i believe that we are not evolved or civilized enough, as human beings, for the U.N to be meaningful. It has been proven over and over again.
So right now all we have is a set of guidelines that says a lot about the world we would like to live in but absolutely nothing about the world we live in.

That said it's still a good tool to find out which countries are the biggest asshole. Like a rating system, nothing more.

[ekalmus]

You should treat ONLY J-government as enemy.
Don't treat whole Japan or Japanese as enemy.

Thank you for your reply Take kun...

What makes you think I am discussing Japanese people? I have many many Japanese friends. My best friend for over 18 years is Japanese. This is a problem in your government, and sadly the only way to change things is for the Japanese people to change them.

If the Japanese people as a whole can see the pain it causes both Foreign, and Japanese Parents then their support will help change things. Why would anyone want to inflict the devastation it causes another person - Japanese or foreign. We are a allies now, right?

or you are supported or donated by anti-Japan organization of C or K?

No - never ... my fight is personal. I have no affiliation with either China, or Korea...although I must say - the Japanese need to make ammends for their attorcities toward their neighbors during World War 2.

I lived in Omuta Japan for 1 1/2 years. I am sure you know of it. It was home to the prisoner of war camp at Ariake Kai. It was also the chemical production center of Japan at the time those chemical weapons were used against both Chinese and Koreans. There are numerous accounts of Japanese soldiers giving testimony to the atrocities they took part in.

I love Japan. My son is Japanese, my daughter is Japanese. I don't however like the fact that your government allows the abduction, and refuses to uphold it's international obligations.

[ekalmus]

[LIST=1]
[*]Don't assume Ptyx is Japanese and/or that he is the author of any legislation that has not been passed but which the Japanese reportedly now seek to uphold.

You are correct. I worded my previous post incorrectly - thank you for bringing it to my attention.

[*]The Security Council doesn't often ask here at FG for our votes, except when it comes to less important issues like whether to buy decaf coffee for the kitchen, which was voted against by a tight margin of 4:3 (not everyone voted).

The post here is just to get the topic circulating. The film is being distributed to the voting parties at the United Nations as well as going to Film Festivals.

[*]Tackling anti-discrimination in Japan is under control - Our man in Japan [url=http://www.debito.org/][B]Dave Aldwinckle (aka "Debito")

Yes, I agree. Debito is the man. He was one of the people who saw the earlier version of Face The truth. You will see the web site he supplied me to quote at the end of the film.

[*]Child abduction, by ex-partners at least, is probably best prevented at your home country (eg: airport watch lists), rather than closing the barn door after the horse has bolted.

You are VERY correct in this statement. I have been successful at the airports in individual cases. I work for change in the government here in California and the rest of the USA as well. There is a lot of work to do, and if I spelled it all out this would be a novel.

Thanks again for the comments.

Eric Kalmus

[jwatcher0914]

Yes, as the most powerful member of the security council, the U.S should act as role model and should be the first one to respect the U.N charter.

You can say it doesn't change a thing, but i think it does. If you're not abiding the law you cannot ask someone else to abide those same laws.

Absolutely. But that does not mean that the US must sign all UN treaties, so what you write here has nothing to do with this discussion about Japan. If you believe other countries are violating UN treaties, please provide as much documented evidence about that as we have about Japan. Else your claims are not credible. In any case, since Japan wants a permanent seat on the UNSC, it doesn't whether the UN is an effective organization or not. It just matters that Japan wants that seat.

Again, the facts are that Japan has signed the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and the UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. Yet Japan clearly does not follow them.

[Areth]

Um, There have been a few really good points brought up on this thread but out of curiosity... Who came up with the brilliant the idea that the US should NOT act as a role model for the world? That is just plain funny. If we are going to be stupid enough to act like we are the world's police then we should act like it and lead by example.
As for Japan's compliance (or lack thereof) and it's relation to the US of A.... I see absolutely no correlation between the two! Firstly, there is the fact that the United States is, in effect, complying by default. Second, even with this fact set aside why should it matter to Japan's status (in regards to the U.N.S.C.)
I guess what I"m saying is that neither side of this argument is completely right, and the same can be applied to the nations that are being represented in this post.
As Americans we have repeatedly ignored U.N. regulations to protect our freedoms, does that make us evil? Herr General? No?
On the other hand, Japan has issues enforcing and regulating this particular resolution...And so they are the new USSR, correct? EHHHHHHH! Wrong answer.
Face facts, Ma'at we Americans are not, but the government of Japan isn't exactly Aphōph. So, calm down, relax, and let the world turn... Japan will be accepted to the UNSC or it won't, but the world will be here tomorrow regardless.
PS: Um.. the U.S. has anti-discrimination laws, yes, and they've done SOOOOOOOOO well to curb racism. HA! Gimme a break.