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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:54 pm

American Oyaji wrote:Actually Blackbeard, I'm pretty sure how I'll react depending on the situation. It was drilled into me by my pops. Basically, kill everything that even LOOKS like it wants to start some shit. And if shit gets started, finish it. That has been the way I've lived my life and I've been in some crazy situations and my first instinct has always been to kill. Not hurt. Kill. People learned early to leave me strictly the fuck alone. I don't permit provocation. Someone pushes me in anger, I'm swinging to take their head straight off their shoulders. And I don't stop swinging until they are down and I'm sure they are staying down. I will bite, claw, kick and grab anything at hand to make sure they stay down and have done so. I try to avoid situations where I'm scared or angry, because I know how I am and what I am capable of, so when I say I would knock someone on their ass, it's not just talk, it's experience.


WWJD?

The only one coming off as arrogant and full of himself here is you, AO. No matter how big, black, and bad you are, there are people who can slap you around like a school girl. I'm short, fat, and white, and I'm scary when I snap too. How do I know? People have told me.

I grew up with a never-back-down philosophy, and have proven myself plenty of times. I've stepped to guys with knives and stepped to whole crews all by myself. However, AK is right, you never know what you're going to do in any situation no matter how hard you are.

The hardest people I've known have backed down at some point in their lives. No one can say why. Probably just a rare occasion where "flight" kicked in before "fight". And these are guys that I'm 100% sure could break you in about 30 seconds.
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:36 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:.. The hardest people I've known have backed down at some point in their lives..
Oh, yeah? Well, I 'bite, claw, scratch, and kick' when I'm running away.. So there!.. ;)

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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:56 pm

AO, when someone tells how they've been victimized and you start going off about how that could never happen to you because you're fucking Superman and shit it belittles the person's feelings.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:19 pm

AssKissinger wrote:AO, when someone tells how they've been victimized and you start going off about how that could never happen to you because you're fucking Superman and shit it belittles the person's feelings.


Great point, but you used cuss words so I can't take you seriously.
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Postby Iraira » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:24 pm

Maybe it's time for a new poll. How many of you would brawl first and ask questions later versus how many of you would set a new world's record for the mile while pissing in your pants?

If there are no cute girls around, I'm definitely in the latter.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:28 pm

Iraira wrote:Maybe it's time for a new poll. How many of you would brawl first and ask questions later versus how many of you would set a new world's record for the mile while pissing in your pants?

If there are no cute girls around, I'm definitely in the latter.


People's answers depend on the question. They guy didn't start with the knife. He started with taking the cigarette away. Which part are you asking about?
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Postby eighty5er » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:57 am

American Oyaji wrote:Actually Blackbeard, I'm pretty sure how I'll react depending on the situation. It was drilled into me by my pops. Basically, kill everything that even LOOKS like it wants to start some shit. And if shit gets started, finish it. That has been the way I've lived my life and I've been in some crazy situations and my first instinct has always been to kill. Not hurt. Kill. People learned early to leave me strictly the fuck alone. I don't permit provocation. Someone pushes me in anger, I'm swinging to take their head straight off their shoulders. And I don't stop swinging until they are down and I'm sure they are staying down. I will bite, claw, kick and grab anything at hand to make sure they stay down and have done so. I try to avoid situations where I'm scared or angry, because I know how I am and what I am capable of, so when I say I would knock someone on their ass, it's not just talk, it's experience.



And you never ran into trouble with the cops?
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Postby Iraira » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:56 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:People's answers depend on the question. They guy didn't start with the knife. He started with taking the cigarette away. Which part are you asking about?


Cigs are cheap, knives cost more. If someone tried to take away the knife I was smoking at the time, I'd be pretty damn po'ed.
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Postby American Oyaji » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:28 am

eighty5er wrote:And you never ran into trouble with the cops?


Only once. Most of the time, no one wanted the cops involved.
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Postby Ptyx » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:04 am

I've been robbed at knife's point two times when i was a teenager. And the two times i complied and the two times the guys who robbed me became very friendly once they had my cash.
It was a weird "nothing personnal" kind of vibe mixed with a "thanks for not causing troubles" feel.
So i'm not surprised the guy did small talk with the OP afterward. Those guys are actually as stressed as their victims and once they think they're done they try to ease their conscience by trying to make it look like a normal situation.
Actually at the time i was stun to discover that those guys were not monsters and could actually have a conversation.

On a sidenote, as a general piece of advice, don't try anything against a guy with a knife. You don't want to be the guy who can't shit straight because he refused to give his wallet to some knife wielding asshole. Or the guy who lost and eye, or the guy whose dead etc...
Plus if you do actually take the knife and beat the shit outta him, you'll be the guy with the extravagant story that nobody really believes.
It's a lose/lose situation.
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Postby halfnip » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:35 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:WWJD?

The only one coming off as arrogant and full of himself here is you, AO. No matter how big, black, and bad you are, there are people who can slap you around like a school girl. I'm short, fat, and white, and I'm scary when I snap too. How do I know? People have told me.

I grew up with a never-back-down philosophy, and have proven myself plenty of times. I've stepped to guys with knives and stepped to whole crews all by myself. However, AK is right, you never know what you're going to do in any situation no matter how hard you are.

The hardest people I've known have backed down at some point in their lives. No one can say why. Probably just a rare occasion where "flight" kicked in before "fight". And these are guys that I'm 100% sure could break you in about 30 seconds.


I used to think I was the baddest mofo until one day while walking back home in LA, some piece of shit gangster (the fucker was probably about 16) pulled up next to me, flashed a shotgun and said, "Where you from? You need a ride, homie?". Then a few weeks later while on the playground playing ball, I snapped, pushed some guy to the ground only to find out that the dumb ass went to his car, grabbed his piece and started flashing the shit. The point is, I've got too much to lose to get caught up in some competition of who's got the bigger penis. And although it is hard to walk away at times, it's a whole lot better than being dead all just for a few minutes of "fun". That's for DAMN sure....
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Postby GuyJean » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:02 pm

The baddest, strongest, fastest dude I've ever known was a no-pain feeling, blind-drunk Samoan in college.. He's now dead; the shotgun slug was faster, sronger, and simpler.. Sad really; he was a decent guy when sober..

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Postby Charles » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:13 pm

halfnip wrote:The point is, I've got too much to lose to get caught up in some competition of who's got the bigger penis. And although it is hard to walk away at times, it's a whole lot better than being dead all just for a few minutes of "fun". That's for DAMN sure....

Yeah, I saw a show where a cop laid out the statistics for each strategy of confrontation with a weapon. He'd done exhaustive research on thousands of confronts, and he says the winning strategy is always to run away.

He broke it down. If you run from a guy with a knife, he has to chase you down to cut you, most assailants won't go to the effort, they'll go find an easier target. But let's say you're suddenly confronted face to face by someone with a gun. The cop figures there's a 50/50 chance he'd shoot if you run. You can increase your odds, for example if the guy wants to rob you, throw your money one way and run the other, he'll go after the money, that was his goal. Then if the guy does shoot, he only has a 50% chance of hitting you, far less if it's a cheap gun or he's high on crack. And if you get hit, there's only a 1 in 10 chance it will be a fatal wound. So the odds are massively in your favor if you run.

However, there is one quick way to get yourself killed, by being separated from a public space. You must not allow yourself to taken into a private or closed space. Do whatever you have to, fight to prevent yourself from being shoved into a car or into a room with a lockable door or whatever. You can't run away once you're in a space controlled by a guy with a weapon.
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Postby kurohinge1 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:47 pm

Chuckles wrote: . . . You can't run away once you're in a space controlled by a guy with a weapon.


However, girls with a gun are completely harmless.

It will take them at least half an hour to find the manual to work out how to take the safety off, and only then will they realise that the bullets are sold separately. Meanwhile, their shooter's licence will be jammed in some bank's automated teller machine, by mistake.

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Postby Phoenix_stu » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:59 pm

[quote="kurohinge1"]However, girls with a gun are completely harmless.

It will take them at least half an hour to find the manual to work out how to take the safety off, and only then will they realise that the bullets are sold separately. Meanwhile, their shooter's licence will be jammed in some bank's automated teller machine, by mistake.

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Hmm. I would have to disagree with that. The girls from back home where I am from will shoot you quicker than shit. You wouldn't have time to talk. Them southern girls are taught by southern dads who don't take no shit and that aint no lie either.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:08 pm

Charles wrote:However, there is one quick way to get yourself killed, by being separated from a public space. You must not allow yourself to taken into a private or closed space. Do whatever you have to, fight to prevent yourself from being shoved into a car or into a room with a lockable door or whatever. You can't run away once you're in a space controlled by a guy with a weapon.


Very true. A guy that used to work for my father when we lived in Atlanta was going to his car from a bar one night. In the parking lot a guy with a gun came up and told him to get into the car and drive him somewhere. My father's employee refused and the guy with the gun ran off. When the police came one of the officers said he did exactly the right thing. He said that if he had gone with the guy he would've most likely been killed.

Basically, you never let a person with a weapon move you somewhere else. The only reason for them to move you is they are afraid to do whatever they want to do where they currently are. By refusing to comply you greatly increase your chances of not getting hurt, raped, or killed.
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Postby Iraira » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:49 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Very true. A guy that used to work for my father when we lived in Atlanta was going to his car from a bar one night. In the parking lot a guy with a gun came up and told him to get into the car and drive him somewhere. My father's employee refused and the guy with the gun ran off. When the police came one of the officers said he did exactly the right thing. He said that if he had gone with the guy he would've most likely been killed.

Basically, you never let a person with a weapon move you somewhere else. The only reason for them to move you is they are afraid to do whatever they want to do where they currently are. By refusing to comply you greatly increase your chances of not getting hurt, raped, or killed.


Maybe it's the Alzheimer's, but it all seems like 25 years ago it was get into a fight, and if you lost, you hadda buy the beer for the other guy, or you became best friends after the fight. Now, it's the feeling,"Shit, I'm sure this knucklehead has a piece, so I better whip mine out, plug his ass before he does the same to me."
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:33 am

Iraira wrote:Maybe it's the Alzheimer's, but it all seems like 25 years ago it was get into a fight, and if you lost, you hadda buy the beer for the other guy, or you became best friends after the fight. Now, it's the feeling,"Shit, I'm sure this knucklehead has a piece, so I better whip mine out, plug his ass before he does the same to me."

It's still that way in some countries - notably those not the US of A.
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