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Steamed salaryman sues over sexy settai

Postby omae mona » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:26 pm

Mainichi Daily News, November 1, 2007
Ex-executive sues Japanese company in New York City over brothel outing


NEW YORK (AP) -- The former creative director of the U.S. arm of Japan's largest advertising agency sued the company Thursday, saying he was pressured to visit a brothel and engage in other sexually explicit activities on company outings and then was fired after he complained.
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On another business trip to Brazil in April 2004, Biegel witnessed Shigeta repeatedly taking photographs emphasizing the crotches of scantily clad women on the beach

I'm not sure what to make of this part though:
On another business trip to Tokyo in October 2004, Shigeta insisted that Biegel and two other employees accompany him to a Japanese bath house where they were instructed to climb naked into a bath with Shigeta, the lawsuit said.
"Once again, plaintiff was offended and humiliated by this outrageous, sexually degrading experience imposed on him as a condition of his employment," the lawsuit said.

Well, now I'm feeling a little sexually degraded myself. I've been forced to do this with complete strangers, as a matter of fact.
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Postby Greji » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:14 am

omae mona wrote:Mainichi Daily News, November 1, 2007Well, now I'm feeling a little sexually degraded myself. I've been forced to do this with complete strangers, as a matter of fact.


You know, I can't even think of any think to say about this thread.
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Postby omae mona » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:55 am

Greji wrote:You know, I can't even think of any think to say about this thread.
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Yatta!! Stumped Greji!!:banana:
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Postby dimwit » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:08 am

Greji wrote:You know, I can't even think of any think to say about this thread.
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Is this on the advice of your lawyers?:p
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:23 am

I guy I know worked at the New York office of a Japanese financial company when he graduated from college. One of the first jobs he was assigned was to arrange a night out for a group of visiting managers from some of the company's branch offices around Japan. He was specifically requested to find some suitable prostitutes. I remember him telling me at the time "After spending thousands of dollars on Japanese lessons and getting an MBA, I find out I'm working as a pimp".
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Postby dimwit » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:31 am

Mulboyne wrote:I guy I know worked at the New York office of a Japanese financial company when he graduated from college. One of the first jobs he was assigned was to arrange a night out for a group of visiting managers from some of the company's branch offices around Japan. He was specifically requested to find some suitable prostitutes. I remember him telling me at the time "After spending thousands of dollars on Japanese lessons and getting an MBA, I find out I'm working as a pimp".


It is always a good wake up call when the first job you are asked to do for a company is something illegal. 'If you do this well, you may have a great future is corporate fraud.':)
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Postby American Oyaji » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:18 pm

Mulboyne wrote:I remember him telling me at the time "After spending thousands of dollars on Japanese lessons and getting an MBA, I find out I'm working as a pimp".


That is one of the funniest things I've ever read. It is sad in a way and says a lot to the Japanese mindset and opinion of women.
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Postby GomiGirl » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:19 pm

American Oyaji wrote:That is one of the funniest things I've ever read. It is sad in a way and says a lot to the japanese mindset and opinion of western women.

I think you can remove the word "western" in the above.
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Postby American Oyaji » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:25 pm

GomiGirl wrote:I think you can remove the word "western" in the above.


Too true. Agreed. Consider it DONE!
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Postby Greji » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:36 pm

dimwit wrote:Is this on the advice of your lawyers?:p


Hey, I only showed them one of the cathouses! I didn't know that had this closet FG with them protecting his wife cover.

I understand that Dentsu has filed a countersuit against Mr. Purerain.
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Postby Iraira » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:44 pm

The whole thing is very simple. He got caught by his wife, and basically is crying, "But, honey, they made me sleep with those hookers, it was part of the job. You can't be mad at me for I HAD to have sex with other women." He's just trying to get out of the doghouse at home.
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Postby omae mona » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:39 pm

Our very own Gen Kanai has a great page about this story on his blog. Lots of links to related information including the upskirt photo of Maria Sharapova (of course, posted here for your convenience, so you can evaluate the lawsuit on its own merits)

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Postby omae mona » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:40 pm

I just browsed a few pages of the lawsuit (very amusing reading) from the PDF on Gen's page. First of all, Iraira is absolutely right. This guy got busted at home. Even though it seems kind of irrelevant to the complaint, there's a whole paragraph explaining that the plaintiff very definitely did NOT have sex with that prostitute. He waited patiently in the room alone with her for a few minutes, doing nothing, and then returned to the lobby. :rofl: And then the lawsuit says
By subjecting plaintiff to a hostile work environment, defendants caused plaintiff to suffer profound emotional distress. Patient has suffered loss of sleep, anxiety, stress .... and disruption of family and social relationships.

Great guess Iraira!!

The lawsuit also seems to insinuate that there was religious discrimination (on the basis that the plaintiff was Jewish, but his eventual replacement was not). And then I think they are implying that the Japanese boss is gay. Regarding the onsen trip:
they were then expected to climb naked into the bath with defendant Shigeta. To do this, each of the men also had to parade naked in front of defendant Shigeta. It was obvious from his expression that defendant Shigeta enjoyed subjecting plaintiff and the others to this humiliating spectacle.
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Postby Iraira » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:03 pm

omae mona wrote:I just browsed a few pages of the lawsuit (very amusing reading) from the PDF on Gen's page. First of all, Iraira is absolutely right. This guy got busted at home. Even though it seems kind of irrelevant to the complaint, there's a whole paragraph explaining that the plaintiff very definitely did NOT have sex with that prostitute. He waited patiently in the room alone with her for a few minutes, doing nothing, and then returned to the lobby. :rofl: And then the lawsuit says

Great guess Iraira!!

The lawsuit also seems to insinuate that there was religious discrimination (on the basis that the plaintiff was Jewish, but his eventual replacement was not). And then I think they are implying that the Japanese boss is gay. Regarding the onsen trip:


I don't want to come off sounding like Howard Stern, but let's look at the facts. The guy is a guy, meaning that if he feels he can get away with it (even if there is the most remote chance of being able to get away with it), he will bang another chick. That's a fact, anyone who disputes it is doing so to show off for his wife/gf. If a hot space alien chick with nice guns came down to Earth, grabbed you, and said, "I will freeze time, you will not get any diseases, no one can see us, and I will not return to Earth for another 100 years...now bang the green space shit out of me.", is there any straight (perhaps even gay) guy who wouldn't do her, no matter what his current relationship/marital status/religious views? Don't lie, but please stop touching yourself, this is my fantasy, I own the copyright. And Jews are the biggest sex craved people out there (I should know, as I carry my yamuka and minora around with me wherever I go....8 candles = 8 girls....each one working her way down my wick.

If a chick is too "Fatal Attraction" like, then we might think twice, but probably not, since we know the crazy ones are the best in bed (again, a liar will answer this by saying to his chick, "No, you aren't crazy, but you are great in bed, go figure.") Stop lying.
So, dude probably got some STD (from a toilet), wifey found a little love note tucked away in a forgotten pocket in his suit, etc. Somehow it got back to her, and he's becoming Clintonian about it. Yeah, Bill lied at first, who wouldn't? But, I made a lot of money in the stock market during his reign, and like that G. Ford called him a sex addict. What guy isn't? Most girls are too, it's just that girls get hit on 24-7, so they get a little bit immune to it.
If dude wins his lawsuit, I'll congradulate him then, I'll kick him in the nuts until he admits privately that he made the whole thing up to cover his cheating ass.
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Postby DrP » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:53 pm

.. and you've been working for a Japanese company for how long??? (Would be my question to Biegel) While Shigeta's actions may seem morally reprehensible to someone outside Japan - it's pretty tame compared to most Japanese execs I've had to hang with. [sic] Hell, most shosha's have their own private soaps and clubs with specially trained staff just to manage this sort of thing.

Since biz in Japan (espcially at this level) is largely based on 'relationships' gained in the sento or soap, and the mutual face risk-points gathered, my guess is that Biegel was just behind in the transactional analysis.
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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:41 pm

I just noticed this:

Adweek: Dentsu, Biegel Reach Settlement
Dentsu and Steve Biegel, a former svp, cd at the shop's New York office, today issued a joint statement saying they had settled their bitter legal battle, though terms were not disclosed. Biegel had originally sued the agency for discrimination, harassment and retaliation, and Dentsu threatened to bring counterclaims for defamation and fraud. The brief statement today read, in part: "As a result of this settlement, those allegations and claims have been dismissed, including any potential counterclaims that have not been asserted by Dentsu. Both parties retract all public statements." The statement continues: "Any other terms of the settlement shall remain confidential, and the parties have agreed not to disclose anything regarding this case or its settlement. Through this settlement, both parties wish to put the dispute behind them and move on to successful future endeavors"...more...
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Postby Greji » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:25 pm

Mulboyne wrote:I just noticed this:

Adweek: Dentsu, Biegel Reach Settlement


I hope he got some dust because Steve Bagel will never find employment for the rest of his life.....
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