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Postby emperor » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:38 am

I have a SE K750i right now.
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It's been sufficient until recently, but the 'joy'stick/thumbstick has become unreliable at best (that model become notorious for such a problem)

I would get an iPhone IF they were cheaper & were sold here...
which will happen in time... but I'll be paying the mortgage for my new Bugallo Ranch on Mars by then...

So: I'm looking at
the HTC S620 (aka Excalibur) a lil bit older but a solid performer afaik
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or
the newer and slightly different HTC S710
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Any opinions would be appreciated.

/I really just want a good phone+text device (wifi is a nice extra but not essential) - I dont need a second rate camera - mp3 is great if eliminates the need to also carry an iPod.
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Postby Ol Dirty Gaijin » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:02 am

I've got the previous Hermes (X01HT) with a 2Gig memory card and I'm pretty happy with it as now I don't have to carry an Ipod and a PDA/electronic dictionary.
The only odd thing is more Windows/carrier related with storing phone numbers for international codes, sorry I need to check next time I'm OS because I think it's a Softbank SNAFU.
That Excalibur is not a good looking phone, but if you like the keyboard for text, go with it. I rarely use the pull-out keyboard on mine.
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Postby FG Lurker » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:33 am

I also have a X01HT, and I have played with a friend's S620. The S620 is a much nicer phone and the Blackberry-style keyboard is much easier to work with than the slide-out one on the X01HT and the other HTC phone you mention in your post. The S620 is also a lot thinner as it isn't two pieces that slide. I'd go with that one for sure.
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Postby American Oyaji » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:06 pm

How about the new HTC Touch? *snicker*
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Postby FG Lurker » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:16 am

American Oyaji wrote:How about the new HTC Touch? *snicker*

If I had to choose between an iPhone in Japan now and the HTC phone, the HTC phone would win no matter how horrible it may be... The iPhone is worthless here now.

Hopefully Apple will get things together and put out a proper iPhone soon.
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Postby American Oyaji » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:09 am

FG Lurker wrote:If I had to choose between an iPhone in Japan now and the HTC phone, the HTC phone would win no matter how horrible it may be... The iPhone is worthless here now.

Hopefully Apple will get things together and put out a proper iPhone soon.


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Postby FG Lurker » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:02 am

American Oyaji wrote:???
What are you smoking?

Not sure, but it's not Steve's dick...

A non-3G iPhone is a waste of raw materials.
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Postby American Oyaji » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:25 pm

FG Lurker wrote:Not sure, but it's not Steve's dick...

A non-3G iPhone is a waste of raw materials.


They did not go the 3G route because of battery life. It wan't until the last month that a less power intensive 3G capable chip was released.
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Postby Charles » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:38 pm

American Oyaji wrote:They did not go the 3G route because of battery life. It wan't until the last month that a less power intensive 3G capable chip was released.

Well that, and the fact that nobody's rolled out 3G nationwide. AT&T only has spotty 3G coverage in major metro areas, big cities like Chicago and LA still have big areas with no 3G coverage. This would really kill your portable data experience. But EDGE is available everywhere that AT&T covers.
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Postby FG Lurker » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:33 pm

American Oyaji wrote:They did not go the 3G route because of battery life. It wan't until the last month that a less power intensive 3G capable chip was released.

It was more because the cellular network in the USA is archaic. In technological terms you guys are stuck in the bronze age. The iPhone works fine in such an environment but doesn't support anything newer.
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Postby American Oyaji » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:09 pm

FG Lurker wrote:It was more because the cellular network in the USA is archaic. In technological terms you guys are stuck in the bronze age. The iPhone works fine in such an environment but doesn't support anything newer.


That is a possibility, but do you realize how much a power draw that 3G phones are?
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Postby Tsuru » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:19 pm

American Oyaji wrote:That is a possibility, but do you realize how much a power draw that 3G phones are?
:violin: That's why they invented car chargers and desk chargers, and if you're stuck without one you can always choose to switch 3G/UMTS functionality off for the benefit of endurance. As far as I'm concerned fast mobile internet is far too good not to have, so I'm with FGL all the way- my current phone is a 3G model (SE W850i) and I'm never ever going back. With 3G on it will last only half a day, but when I switched it off it will last as long as any other phone... maybe even longer!
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Postby FG Lurker » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:32 pm

American Oyaji wrote:That is a possibility, but do you realize how much a power draw that 3G phones are?

I've been using 3G phones for several years now. Currently I own two, a Samsung and an HTC. The Samsung is tiny, much like a Motorola Razor, and the battery life is marginal. I get one day out of it but the battery is low by the end of the day. The HTC has a comparatively large battery and I have no problem getting through an entire day of heavy use with battery life to spare. Who needs more than a day anyway? Plug it in at night, it's not difficult. I don't know anyone who uses their phone while sleeping.

By the time the US has decent 3G coverage Japan will be 5G. We'll have better mobile download speeds than US broadband. Oh wait, that's already the case with 1.8Mbps 3G High Speed! :lol:
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Postby American Oyaji » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:45 am

FG Lurker wrote:By the time the US has decent 3G coverage Japan will be 5G. We'll have better mobile download speeds than US broadband. Oh wait, that's already the case with 1.8Mbps 3G High Speed! :lol:


Since we don't have 3G and I've only had a cellphone since last year in August (Had one in Japan, but had no need for one here) I guess I'm not really understanding all this screaming about 3G, though I've heard about it for quite some time.

As for your last statement, we have faster, but we have to pay for it. I currently have about 6.5Mbs down. I would have 10 if I had my cable companies phone service as well.

I AM an Apple fan. Admittedly. But I think the iPhone was the BEST thing to happen to the cellphone market it terms of functions and widespread appeall
American businesses don't change unless they fear something and the only thing they fear is losing money or losing out on a wave of money making.
iPhone has created that fear.
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Postby ttjereth » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:54 am

American Oyaji wrote:But I think the iPhone was the BEST thing to happen to the cellphone market it terms of functions and widespread appeall



For the U.S. maybe, but here my several year old phone can do everything the iphone can and more and cost me less than 2man :p

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Postby FG Lurker » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:41 am

American Oyaji wrote:Since we don't have 3G and I've only had a cellphone since last year in August (Had one in Japan, but had no need for one here) I guess I'm not really understanding all this screaming about 3G, though I've heard about it for quite some time.

If all you use your phone for is talking then 3G has no value for you. (Replace "3G" with "iPhone" and the sentence is still true.)

American Oyaji wrote:As for your last statement, we have faster, but we have to pay for it. I currently have about 6.5Mbs down. I would have 10 if I had my cable companies phone service as well.

From what I know of US broadband (especially DSL), a 6.5Mbps connection is the exception, not the rule. The overall state of US broadband is laughable, not really any better than the state of US cellular networks.

American Oyaji wrote:I AM an Apple fan. Admittedly. But I think the iPhone was the BEST thing to happen to the cellphone market it terms of functions and widespread appeall

That people in the US actually lined up to buy a technological dinosaur like the iPhone shows exactly how fucked the US mobile market is. Yes, it looks purdy, and I am sure the interface is nice. But it is using 10+ year old technology! Would you buy a computer with a Pentium 60 in it? How about a PowerPC 601 (think Power Mac 6100/60)? Okay, maybe for a museum, but would you pay a premium for it over a modern computer...?

American Oyaji wrote:American businesses don't change unless they fear something and the only thing they fear is losing money or losing out on a wave of money making.
iPhone has created that fear.

Businesses everywhere are like that. Change costs money, why spend that money when there is nothing driving the change? All I am saying is that the cellular technology in the iPhone is ancient and slow.
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Postby emperor » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:09 am

I'll probably be getting a 2nd hand unlocked Treo 750 with WM6 on Sunday for €190, notably it lacks wifi, but should tide me over till 2008s must-haves are unleashed..
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Postby emperor » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:54 pm

I've a got a dilemma:

I can pay:
€80 for a (probably 1-2 year+) treo 650 with Palm OS
€190 for a several month old treo 750v (vodafone branded, but unlocked and upgraded to WM6)
€300 for a 1 month old 750 (unlocked and WM6 from day one)
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€350 for a HTC TyTn (the only one with wifi)
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Postby Tsuru » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:26 am

Get the TyTn.
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Postby emperor » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:13 am

so at lunchtime today following an interview for a new job, I bought a 1 week old treo750 for €250 ...perfect condition... came with a receipt... but later when I looked at the receipt-warranty again : to my horror I noticed he paid less than I had paid him!! which makes me suspicion that this is a refurb - the site he bought it from sell refurbs along with regular new stock - he sold it 'as new' but based on the price he paid...? even the refurbs listed in that site even cost more ...

ah well...

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Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:22 pm

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