Japanese Director Makes "Truth Of Nanking Trilogy"

[Mulboyne]

[floatr][/floatr]AFP: Japanese film discredits Nanjing massacre
As China tries to keep memories alive of the Nanjing Massacre, which started 70 years ago this week, a Japanese film-maker is doing his part to convince the world it never happened. Several films have come out to mark the anniversary of the massacre, which started on December 13, 1937 after Japanese troops stormed the then Chinese capital also known as Nanking. "Nanking," a Chinese production with Hollywood backing, has hit cinemas in Asia and the West, inspired by late US writer Iris Chang's book "The Rape of Nanking" documenting the horrors. In Japan, director Satoru Mizushima is working on "The Truth of Nanking," the first of a three-part series alleging the massacre did not happen. "I absolutely believe it did not happen. The allegation suddenly popped up at the Tokyo tribunal," which tried Japanese war criminals after World War II, Mizushima told AFP..."For example, Chiang Kai-shek held 300 press conferences in the 11 months following the fall of Nanjing," Mizushima said, referring to the leader of the anti-communist Republic of China which was once based in the city. "He told the international media, 'Japan did this, and Japan did that.' But there was absolutely no mention of Nanjing. Not a single word...This and many other things provide solid evidence the so-called massacre did not happen," Mizushima said...more...

[james]

this should be well recieved i wonder if they will be showing it overseas..

[dimwit]

...director Satoru Mizushima...

Who is this guy anyways? Goggling I only find reference to this film and the related outcry and a search of Japanese film directors reveals a big fat goose egg. The guy looks like he should be running an establishment that employs classy girls.

[amdg]

Who is this guy anyways? Goggling I only find reference to this film and the related outcry and a search of Japanese film directors reveals a big fat goose egg. The guy looks like he should be running an establishment that employs classy girls.

Yeah, he's probably not a "movie director" in the normal sense. Just some guy with a story to tell and a lot of silent partner friends willing to pay for the project.

[Takechanpoo]

He managed this site
http://www.youtube.com/user/rashinban

[TennoChinko]

[floatr][/floatr]AFP: Japanese film discredits Nanjing massacre
As China tries to keep memories alive of the Nanjing Massacre, which started 70 years ago this week, a Japanese film-maker is doing his part to convince the world it never happened. Several films have come out to mark the anniversary of the massacre, which started on December 13, 1937 after Japanese troops stormed the then Chinese capital also known as Nanking. "Nanking," a Chinese production with Hollywood backing, has hit cinemas in Asia and the West, inspired by late US writer Iris Chang's book "The Rape of Nanking" documenting the horrors. In Japan, director Satoru Mizushima is working on "The Truth of Nanking," the first of a three-part series alleging the massacre did not happen. "I absolutely believe it did not happen. The allegation suddenly popped up at the Tokyo tribunal," which tried Japanese war criminals after World War II, Mizushima told AFP..."For example, Chiang Kai-shek held 300 press conferences in the 11 months following the fall of Nanjing," Mizushima said, referring to the leader of the anti-communist Republic of China which was once based in the city. "He told the international media, 'Japan did this, and Japan did that.' But there was absolutely no mention of Nanjing. Not a single word...This and many other things provide solid evidence the so-called massacre did not happen," Mizushima said...more...

I read on some boards a few conspiracy theories that Takechanpoo's uncles killed Iris Chang, but it appears that it really was suicide:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/04/17/CMGCNBQRRP1.DTL

[Midwinter]

This isn't going to end very well... though I'm looking forward to the sequel trilogy, "the Truth of Pearl".

[Iraira]

Sadly, all of this makes me wish that there was/is some divine power, and when the apololypse comes, all the genocide deniers publically get sent to the lowest rungs....knowing that this happened to them will make me feel better with crows and jackyls tearing away at my innards for eternity.
However, I know that these films will simply be used as "evidence" by future idiots who wish to deny the genocide. Hopefully those who feel the need to believe fiction as fact (for their plethora of reasons) will be few and largly ignored.

[dimwit]

He managed this site
http://www.youtube.com/user/rashinban

My mistake. After reviewing the videos and web site I'd say he was more likely the proprieter of a Fillipino Tranny Bar.

The youtube videos were priceless. There is one half decent looking girl with the assault rifle who I suppose is pretty front rest of the charisma deficient team members. And whata team it was! I loved the weasel with the glasses and Ms. Ugly Japan.

If a could offer them a bit of free advice it would be this - When you want your lies to sound convincing try not to wrinkle your face up like the Grinch. This is fairly easy advice for anyone who has been married or for that matter had any kind of interpersonal relationship.

[maraboutslim]

Personally I'm not really into violence of any kind and don't see any real need to dominate others. But I think that makes me a minority amongst the human species, an oddball, somehow defective almost.

And so when it comes down to it, I'm not sure I feel any worse about things like "raping" a city or experimenting on or torturing people than I do about simply killing them by firebombing of the conventional kind, hand to hand or aircraft or ship combat, or atomic bombs or, hell, pure economic domination or any of the rest. The end result, a miserable life of temporary or permanent pain and/or early death, is pretty much the same and I'm not sure any of those activities say anything worse about "humanity" than any of the others. They seem to come from the same motivation.

I mean, shit, the whole point to warfare is to dominate other people. May the best man win. For the weaker party, the loser, to complain about how they were dominated, or mistreated, or occupied, or whatever always struck me as kind of silly.

For example, being Irish, I'm not happy with how my ancestors were treated by the English. But I don't blame the English for the atrocities they committed or their goals as much as I ask myself why weren't my ancestors able to prevent it from happening? What prevented the Irish from dominating the English, wiping out their language, and so on instead of the other way around? That's what I'd be angry about, if anything. (and yes, i realize a lot of who is able to dominate who, how much success one society has over another, comes down to dumb luck based upon their natural environment and plant and animal species and all that crap - if jared diamond is to be believed anyway - but that still can't completely explain why a country with as long and glorious of a history as China wasn't able to develop and repel or dominate Japan instead. I mean, shit, isn't it, at some level, because of something they did themselves to lose out, and not a case of simply being unlucky in a way that was outside of their control. And to complain about being the dominated, when one could have been the dominator or an equal is, well.... no one likes a sore loser, right?).

I feel the same way about my own societies problem. I don't waste my time blaming rich bastards for exploiting the working classes, or capitalists turning our society sick with consumerist greed, or superstitious nincompoops making all sorts of silly cultural restrictions (based on their belief in ancient myths) on our behavior and beliefs? I instead ask myself why we let them get away with it? What is wrong with us? Why doesn't the world conform to my vision instead of that of others? Oh well...

Sure, it'd be nice of people to not seek dominance over others. But it would also seem at least somewhat against human nature, being the competitive animals we are.

So...what to say to the losers? Sorry you were treated badly. And my wish is that you will have success building yourself into a society that is secure and can't be dominated or into a society in which others won't find a desire to fuck with.

[Iraira]

Sure, it'd be nice of people to not seek dominance over others. But it would also seem at least somewhat against human nature, being the competitive animals we are.

So...what to say to the losers? Sorry you were treated badly. And my wish is that you will have success building yourself into a society that is secure and can't be dominated or into a society in which others won't find a desire to fuck with.

Sure, technically, the losers must exist under the control, domination, whims of the winners, but once the dust has settled what nations are afraid of is a repeat performance by a previously deposed country that showed behaviors that many countries find repulsive (although practicing torture on the sly occurs provides the proof can be shredded and the tapes erased). Also, if the repressed become the repressors, what is to keep them from exacting revenge...and we cycle through genocide after genocide after genocide between the same groups. It's these cycles that need to be prevented, and many feel that only by completely owning up your past evils can you put those skeletons to rest.

[Mulboyne]

Chinese researchers are drawing different conclusions:

Xinhua: U.S. archives reveal war massacre of 500,000 Chinese by Japanese army

Invading Japanese troops massacred at least 500,000 Chinese before the occupation of Nanjing in 1937, according to declassified documents from the United States government, says a Chinese scholar. Two telegrams from the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration added evidence to support claims of a "Pan-Nanjing Massacre" that included the slaughter of people in the area surrounding China's then capital, said Wang Lan, a researcher of the State Archives Administration of China. The telegrams sent by the U.S. diplomats pointed to the massacre of an estimated half a million people in Shanghai, Suzhou,Jiaxing, Hangzhou, Shaoxing, Wuxi and Changzhou, said Wang...William Edward Dodd, U.S. ambassador to Germany, sent a telegram from Berlin to President Franklin D. Roosevelt on Dec. 14,1937, one day after the Japanese army occupied Nanjing, saying, "Today the news from the Far East is worse than ever and I have read yours and Secretary Hull's statement as to Japanese brutality. The Japanese Ambassador here boasted a day or two ago of his country's having killed 500,000 Chinese people"...more...

[amdg]

Ladies and gentlemen this genuine death count from a notable deceased estate is a bone fide wartime-era legacy, and a bargain at only 500,000.

If passed in today for 500,000 it is sure to appreciate to at least 750,000 within the year. Yes, it can only appreciate in value.

Ladies and gentlemen I urge you to consider the 500,000 figure now for this beautifully restored piece of history.

500,000, going once.... going twice....

[Visitor K]

its kind of a bland article that "reevaluates" nanking without really saying much, but its new and it actually mentions this movie:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1694101,00.html

[Takechanpoo]

Chinese researchers are drawing different conclusions:

Xinhua: U.S. archives reveal war massacre of 500,000 Chinese by Japanese army

[maraboutslim]

Shit, the Russians would have been happy to have lost only 500,000.

[Takechanpoo]

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[Buraku]

'Nanking' documentary honors foreign heroes
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/09/DDNSUALOM.DTL

[TFG]

What a fucking idiot that director is which is evident by the manner in which he speaks. Is this one of Takepon's gay Uyoku buddies, they are all fucking queers.
And before anyone mentions it, I have no qualms with gay people however, I have a lot of qualms with Uyoku Faggots!

[Mulboyne]

AFP: Japanese filmmaker plans mock Nanjing tribunal

A Japanese filmmaker who says the Nanjing Massacre never happened said Friday he planned to hold a mock tribunal this summer to prove his view. "We want to launch the Nanjing international court this summer," director Satoru Mizushima told a press conference where he unveiled his film, "The Truth of Nanking." "If we can discuss our position fairly, we will never lose," he said, sitting before a huge Japanese rising-sun flag next to nearly 40 supporters...more...