Rude Gaijins Stop Elevator In Shinagawa Prince Hotel

[Takechanpoo]

In Shinawaga Prince Hotel gaijin dudes jumped un and down inside elevator and stopped the elevator. 2 Japanese and 8 gaijins were locked up inside the elevator for 50 minutes.

Japanese only

[succubusqueen]

With that amount of weight Im surprised the cable didnt snap!:devil2:

It must have been quite an interesting experience for the japanese!;)

[Typhoon]

In Shinawaga Prince Hotel gaijin dudes jumped un and down inside elevator and stopped the elevator. 2 Japanese and 8 gaijins were locked up inside the elevator for 50 minutes.

Japanese only

Retards.

[ttjereth]

[emperor]

gaijin dudes jumped up and down inside elevator and stopped the elevator. 2 Japanese and 8 gaijins were locked up inside the elevator for 50 minutes.

and nobody got groped or jizzed upon? oh sorry not nihonjin...right...right

[kurohinge1]

. . . In Shinawaga Prince Hotel . . . dudes jumped un and down inside elevator and stopped the elevator . . . locked up inside the elevator for 50 minutes . . .

Let's hope it wasn't one of the elevators "inspected" by a Schindler / Hain Inc"inspector"?

Regardless of where the perpetrators were from, it would've been nice if the innocent parties could've been released within 10 minutes but the perps left trapped inside for at least 2 hours - to learn their lesson.

[Visitor K]

[quote="ttjereth"]I love how the actual article just says "外]

umm... you havent been back in the states in a while, have you? .. maybe you were joking, but there is really so much anti-immigrant sentiment floating around the states these days.. when i went back home for a month, all of the ass-hole political pundits on the radio were railing against how the aliens were ruining america. it was right after i left japan, and it made me realize that the US is pretty much as racist as japan (in completely different ways though).. quite sad, really.
i wondered if those asses on the radio have ever even visited another country, they obviously had no idea of how difficult it is and how possibly hearing "aliens" blamed for so many things would effect aliens (legal or not) listening in on the program.
i know this has been an issue for politicians for quite a few years now, but it seemed to have heated up in the three years i was in japan.. it really did make me feel sad listening to it.

--- EDIT: here is a story done by FAIR about low dobbs on CNN

[Adhesive]

umm... you havent been back in the states in a while, have you? .. maybe you were joking, but there is really so much anti-immigrant sentiment floating around the states these days.. when i went back home for a month, all of the ass-hole political pundits on the radio were railing against how the aliens were ruining america. it was right after i left japan, and it made me realize that the US is pretty much as racist as japan (in completely different ways though).. quite sad, really.
i wondered if those asses on the radio have ever even visited another country, they obviously had no idea of how difficult it is and how possibly hearing "aliens" blamed for so many things would effect aliens (legal or not) listening in on the program.
i know this has been an issue for politicians for quite a few years now, but it seemed to have heated up in the three years i was in japan.. it really did make me feel sad listening to it.

--- EDIT: here is a story done by FAIR about low dobbs on CNN

I think you're confusing illegal immigrants with legal immigrants and visiting foreigners.

[Visitor K]

I think you're confusing illegal immigrants with legal immigrants and visiting foreigners.

no, i was talking about the American press' view on foreigners in general (with emphasis on the recent debates) .. the word "alien" already has a pejorative meaning in people's minds and when repeated on the radio and TV like a mantra, it doesnt really need any credence either way. also, in the states MANY people see a latin american male and automatically think he is an illegal.. much the same way japanese see white dudes and run for the hills.
and, plus in the post i was replying to ttjereth didnt say anything about illegal aliens.. he just said "foreigners" or "aliens"..

[Greji]

[quote="kurohinge1"]Let's hope it wasn't one of the elevators "inspected" by a Schindler / Hain Inc"inspector"?

Regardless of where the perpetrators were from, it would've been nice if the innocent parties could've been released within 10 minutes but the perps left trapped inside for at least 2 hours - to learn their lesson.

]

No, it wasn't that company. The usual method for determining that it was an elevator maintained by Schindler's, is to check for a pile of teeth, hair and eyeballs in the bottom well of the elevator. Lacking that, you know it wasn't a Schindlers elevator.

[emperor]

...Schindler .. a pile of teeth, hair

...I'm seeing Liam Neesons face

[Adhesive]

no, i was talking about the American press' view on foreigners in general (with emphasis on the recent debates) .. the word "alien" already has a pejorative meaning in people's minds and when repeated on the radio and TV like a mantra, it doesnt really need any credence either way. also, in the states MANY people see a latin american male and automatically think he is an illegal.. much the same way japanese see white dudes and run for the hills.
and, plus in the post i was replying to ttjereth didnt say anything about illegal aliens.. he just said "foreigners" or "aliens"..

I guess I'm confused. Are you saying American politicians or pundits are anti-immigrant? I haven't seen or heard any politician or credible news pundit speak ill of immigration. I'm not a news-junky but I get my fair amount. Am I missing something? I know illegal-immigration is a big political issue currently, but I haven't heard anything about legal immigration causing problems.

[ttjereth]

umm... you havent been back in the states in a while, have you? .. maybe you were joking, but there is really so much anti-immigrant sentiment floating around the states these days.. when i went back home for a month, all of the ass-hole political pundits on the radio were railing against how the aliens were ruining america. it was right after i left japan, and it made me realize that the US is pretty much as racist as japan (in completely different ways though).. quite sad, really.
i wondered if those asses on the radio have ever even visited another country, they obviously had no idea of how difficult it is and how possibly hearing "aliens" blamed for so many things would effect aliens (legal or not) listening in on the program.
i know this has been an issue for politicians for quite a few years now, but it seemed to have heated up in the three years i was in japan.. it really did make me feel sad listening to it.

--- EDIT: here is a story done by FAIR about low dobbs on CNN

You're talking about opinion shows with a "cause" they are striving for, not mainstream news.

The 11 o'clock news or the daily newspaper would not get away with lines like "2 Japanese and 8 foreigners were stuck in the elevator" and "according to the hotel, the foreigners were jumping up and down in the elevator which caused a sensor error which in turn triggered the elevator's emergency stop function".

If you'd like to continue with the discussion, please quote and link a mainstream news source that isn't a polictical position show which is intended to be imflammatory.

[Visitor K]

hmm... i realize that we are talking about two entirely different examples here (one is more of a social manifestation, the other political). all i am saying is that there is a correlation between the two, as the media in the united states is hurting the image of all latin americans living there, legal or illegal. of course there are many differences between the two cases, but i was just saying that there are some similarities when it comes to the media propogating a negative image of a group of foreigners.

[IkemenTommy]

The 11 o'clock news or the daily newspaper would not get away with lines like "2 Japanese and 8 foreigners were stuck in the elevator" and "according to the hotel, the foreigners were jumping up and down in the elevator which caused a sensor error which in turn triggered the elevator's emergency stop function".

It's Yahoo "news." Who in the right mind considers Yahoo as a trusting and reliable news source?

[ttjereth]

It's Yahoo "news." Who in the right mind considers Yahoo as a trusting and reliable news source?

Their several million a day readers.

[ttjereth]

hmm... i realize that we are talking about two entirely different examples here (one is more of a social manifestation, the other political). all i am saying is that there is a correlation between the two, as the media in the united states is hurting the image of all latin americans living there, legal or illegal. of course there are many differences between the two cases, but i was just saying that there are some similarities when it comes to the media propogating a negative image of a group of foreigners.

That's the thing though. I'm not talking about "the media propogating a negative image of a group of foreigners", I'm talking about ALL FOREIGNERS. My original point was that the article didn't say "a bunch of american hoodlums" or "a bunch of british hooligans" or whatever, it said "foreigners" as in "not Japanese" as in the fact that they weren't Japanese was all that mattered

[Visitor K]

I'm talking about ALL FOREIGNERS.

hmm.. i cant read too much japanese, but i completely missed the part in the story where it said all foreigners are the problem..
i know i am splitting hairs here, but i dont really see your point.. would it have been better if the newspaper said their nationality? or it should have just said 10 people and left nationality/race out of it?
surely if 2 honkies were caught in an elevator due to a group of eight black youths wrestling the press would report on the race of the people involved.

i dont understand this knee-jerk reaction some people have to the japanese press signaling out foreigners; stereotypes of different minority groups happen in every culture.. just because you didn't notice it at home (maybe you were part of the majority and werent exposed to bigotry), doesn't mean its not there.. talk to any (legal or illegal) mexican-american about racism in america.. ask any white living in an african or middle eastern country about racism.. i live in mexico now and experience so much more "racism" than i ever did in japan, but it doesnt bother me, because i understand that it is a part of human nature to group things into categories, "us" and "them" just happens to be really easy to do, especially in a homogeneous society like japan.

in this particular case, a group of foreigners travelling in japan acted really immature and stupid.. not a completely false stereotype, from what i saw when i lived over there.

[Adhesive]

[quote="Visitor K"]hmm.. i cant read too much japanese, but i completely missed the part in the story where it said all foreigners are the problem..
i know i am splitting hairs here, but i dont really see your point.. would it have been better if the newspaper said their nationality? or it should have just said 10 people and left nationality/race out of it?
surely if 2 honkies were caught in an elevator due to a group of eight black youths wrestling the press would report on the race of the people involved.

i dont understand this knee-jerk reaction some people have to the japanese press signaling out foreigners]
Again, I think you're failing to make an important distinction. There's a difference between racism and xenophobia that exists amongst a population of a country and racism and xenophobia that is supported by that country's mainstream media and politicians. You say ask any Mexican in the U.S. about racisim, but what is that going to tell us about the difference between the Japanese and U.S. press? I know it's not entirely fair of me to demand that you show proof of your allegations, but, seriously, I have never seen a U.S. news outlet or politician go out of their way to show foreigners in a poor light the way the Japanese press and politicians continually do. I think you're right about illegal immigrants, I've definately seen them as the target of negative characterization in both the press and politics, but that's entirely different, IMO.

BTW: Those gaijin ARE idiots.

[ttjereth]

[halfnip]

Great post, ttjereth.

Three, how do you know it was "a group of foreigners travelling in japan acted really immature and stupid.."? The article doesn't say that, all it says is they weren't Japanese. It could have been 8 high level executives from leading companies who have lived here for 15 years each for all we know.

This reminds me of an incident a while back where a bunch of foreigners were busted in Roppongi in a HUGE drug bust where several foreigners were killed (OD'ing). It was only made in to a big deal because the initial thought was that they were just the "typical" foreigner piece of shit that hangs out at Roppongi, but instead it came out that they were big shot executives from several of the big banks in Tokyo.

[Visitor K]

Does that mean I cannot say "murder in Japan is a bad thing" without some twat popping up and saying "duh, but it happens in the U.S. too!"?

cute smiley face there, but it doesnt distract from the obvious disregard for logic in your argument.. read your original post, if you were saying "xenophobia (murder) in japan is a bad thing" i would completely agree and could supply some prime examples from my experiences in living there.
but this is not what you said at all..
what you said is more the equivalent of: "xenophobia (murder) doesnt happen [like this] in the states." now, i can agree, as Adhesive has pointed out, that the actual substance of xenophobia is different from one country to the other and drawing comparisons between them can be difficult.. that would be a conversation that would be worthwhile..
oh, and im sorry if you think i sound "high and mighty" .. i guess i took it for granted that somebody living in japan and complaining about the problems they face there could find it interesting hearing about similar problems in another country.