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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:12 pm

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Yomiuri: Why Japan loves the 'Dog of Flanders'
A Belgian documentary film examining Japan's strange fascination with the tragic novel "A Dog of Flanders" will be shown Thursday at Antwerp cathedral in Belgium...Titled "Patrasche, a Dog of Flanders," the documentary is directed by Didier Volckaert, 36, who got his inspiration for the film when he saw Japanese tourists looking tearful as they gazed up on Peter Paul Rubens' painting of "The Elevation of the Cross," which is displayed in the cathedral...The book tells the tale of Nello, a boy who dreams of being a painter, and his dog, Patrasche. Driven from his village after being falsely accused of arson, Nello battles through snowstorms to get to Antwerp cathedral, as he has always dreamed of seeing Rubens' masterpiece. He reaches the church on Christmas Eve night, only to freeze to death as he gazes upon the object of his dreams...Though famous in Japan, it is little known in Europe, where it tends to be seen as the story of the death of "a big loser," according to Volckaert. In the United States, the novel has been made into a movie five times, each time revised to have a happy ending. The mystery is why the original sad ending only strikes a chord with the Japanese...Ultimately, Volckaert concluded that it was Japanese identification with "the nobility of failure" that drew them to the novel. "The Japanese people, they think they reach a certain level of nobility by accepting defeat or failure in order to preserve things like loyalty, friendship and dedication. This is exactly what happened to Nello and Patrasche. Their death exemplifies such values of the Japanese people," said An van. Dienderen, the 36-year-old producer of the film...more...
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Postby succubusqueen » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:02 pm

Mulboyne wrote:Image

Yomiuri: Why Japan loves the 'Dog of Flanders'
"The Japanese people, they think they reach a certain level of nobility by accepting defeat or failure in order to preserve things like loyalty, friendship and dedication. This is exactly what happened to Nello and Patrasche. Their death exemplifies such values of the Japanese people," said An van. Dienderen, the 36-year-old producer of the film...more...

Is that why they kill themselves after they have failed in life....pffftt!!:confused:
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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:01 am

In the United States, the novel has been made into a movie five times...


Huh?
I had to look that up.
http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Dog+of+Flanders&x=0&y=0
* A Dog of Flanders (1914), directed by Howell Hansel.
* A Boy of Flanders (1924), directed by Victor Schertzinger.
* A Dog of Flanders (1935), directed by Edward Sloman.
* A Dog of Flanders (1960), directed by James B. Clark.
* A Dog of Flanders (1999), directed by Kevin Brodie.
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Postby Greji » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:16 am

succubusqueen wrote:Is that why they kill themselves after they have failed in life....pffftt!!:confused:


It's interesting. I asked my resident rice cooker if she knew that and she said everybody knows that story in Japan. Then, I asked her why and she said that it is such a sad story and she couldn't understand why anyone could not feel for such a sad story, or not be interested in seeing or hearing it.
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:01 pm

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Ending with subtitles. Apparently, in one version, one woman did the voices for eight parts:

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Postby Takechanpoo » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:29 pm

So losers in their home country (especially Euro-America) gather in Japan.
And they behave like aristocrats while hanging busu J-girls.
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:41 pm

Is the boy in the story a loser? He is certainly a tragic character but there are plenty of similar stories throughout world literature and it's not as if this story introduced radically different themes. The British are also often said to support the underdog and have sympathy with the "nobility of failure". It's even possible to argue that the US entertainment industry is more of an outlier in preferring happy endings.
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Postby Greji » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:15 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:So losers in their home country (especially Euro-America) gather in Japan.
And they behave like aristocrats while hanging busu J-girls.
pathetic dudes:cool:


Losers attract losers, so Japan is a natural, eh Take?

BTW, aristocrat, or not, Busu, or not, they're getting laid! What's your take on that Take?
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Postby American Oyaji » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:27 pm

gboothe wrote:Busu, or not, they're getting laid! What's your take on that Take?
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Busu girls get more pussy than Take.

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Postby Greji » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:23 pm

American Oyaji wrote:Busu girls get more pussy than Take.

How bout them umeboshis


Take ain't had no pussy since pussy had him!
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Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:34 pm

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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:46 pm

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You can now play Dog of Flanders pachinko.
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