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Count the recessions, 1, 2, 3...

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Postby gkanai » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:14 am

Takehiro Sato of Morgan Stanley:

http://www.morganstanley.com/views/gef/index.html#anchor6025

The risk of dual recession is mounting. Our US economics team is already calling for capex-induced negative GDP growth in successive quarters (Jan-Mar, Apr-Jun), for a technical minor recession in the first half of the year by definition. We are forecasting that Japan will cling on to a modicum of growth in the Oct-Dec 2007 quarter, boosted by external demand, but there is a possibility that, like the US, that quarter will mark the peak and the economy will retreat in Jan-Mar.
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Our China team believes that if signs of a pullback appear, the authorities could loosen their tight monetary policy and there is still ample scope for fiscal stimulus. The problem though is that taking macro measures once demand has already headed down is like pushing on a string, and frequently fails to achieve the intended effects. If China does fare worse than expected, the risk that a dual recession could escalate into a triple recession would come into play.
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Postby Jack » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:22 am

Could, would, might... whatever. I think this guy is exaggerating so much that he is in the realm of science fiction.

Many people are missing the whole point which is the weak U.S. dollar is boosting exports to Brazil, Turkey, Russia, India, Indonesia and so on. This increase more than offsets the decline in local consumption. when retail sales figures are released it only shows the drop in domestic consumption and ignores exports. Those who claim that a recession is coming or that we are in one, are full of shit, to put it politely. Japan had not really gotten out of recession anyway so there is nothing new there.
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Postby Uhhuh35 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:23 am

Jack wrote:Could, would, might... whatever. I think this guy is exaggerating so much that he is in the realm of science fiction.
Many people are missing the whole point which is the weak U.S. dollar is boosting exports to Brazil, Turkey, Russia, India, Indonesia and so on. This increase more than offsets the decline in local consumption. when retail sales figures are released it only shows the drop in domestic consumption and ignores exports. Those who claim that a recession is coming or that we are in one, are full of shit, to put it politely. Japan had not really gotten out of recession anyway so there is nothing new there.


But didn't you read the article? Those people are calling for negative growth, it's as good as done! Run for the hills! :D
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Postby Greji » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:01 am

Uhhuh35 wrote:But didn't you read the article? Those people are calling for negative growth, it's as good as done! Run for the hills! :D


They are definitely appear to be hoping for it to happen. Especially before the election.
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