New Marine Underage Rape Case

[Mulboyne]

All the good work the US military in Japan has put in to bring down crimes committed by its personnel may have just been undone by a new arrest:

The Age: US Marine arrested over Japanese rape
Japanese police have arrested a US marine for allegedly raping a 14-year-old girl in southern Japan. Police in Okinawa, Japan's southernmost prefecture, arrested a US marine in his 30's for the alleged rape, Kyodo News agency reported...In 1995, the rape of a schoolgirl in Okinawa, which has the largest US military presence, by three American servicemen sparked large-scale protests. Officials of US Forces in Japan as well as police in Okinawa could not immediately confirm the report.

[AssKissinger]

They can't get antone to join the military anymore and the standards are out the window so this is just going to get worse. They'll take anyone these days.

[bolt_krank]

These cases are a worry. Because the alledged "raper" is usually very descriminated against - and it's hard to get subjective comments on the situation from a Japanese source.

That being said - quite the opposite happens from the military's point of view.
Even if this guy did rape the girl - there's often "What he did probably isn't as
bad as everyone is making it out to be."

I'm just worried that such attitudes will provoke the mentality "Well if I'm a little bit fucked - I'll go the whole way 'cause the result will be the same."

[Mike Oxlong]

Huge news down here...

http://www.japanupdate.com/?id=8389

A 38-year-old Marine is in police custody this morning, charged with the Sunday evening rape of a 14-year-old girl.

The incident began about 8:30 p.m. last night in Okinawa City’s Goya area, when a man on a motorcycle stopped in front of Koza Music Town and began talking to a group of eight junior high school girls. One of the girls, Okinawa City Police say, accepted his offer of a ride on his motorcycle, and they drove away.

A police emergency was declared about 10:30 p.m. after the girl’s parents, worried about her not returning home, called their daughter’s cell phone to ask where she was. When she said “Oh, my God. I can’t get out of the car” and the cell phone abruptly shut off, the parents called police. An island wide call went to all police stations and a search began for the young teenager.

Police checking the Chatan Araha Beach parking area spotted the girl getting out of a car at 10:50 p.m., and they rescued the shaken youngster. The abductor had fled, and police began searching for him. The girl, still in shock, told police the man had initially given her a motorcycle ride, then put her in a car and drove her to the secluded location. She described her assailant as a foreigner and told police “he did rape me”.

Police apprehended the suspect, and took him into custody. The girl reportedly identified the man, telling police “Yes, that’s him”. The man, tentatively identified by authorities as Tyrone Hardnutt, a 38-year-old Marine, admitted taking the girl, but denied the rape allegation. “No, I didn’t rape her,” he told police. “I just tried to kiss her. That’s all.”

[AssKissinger]

Tyrone Hardnutt

[Mike Oxlong]

What do you figure the odds are of Tenno Chinko's assertion that the defendant is most likely African American?

[Mulboyne]

As a side topic, I was wondering which law the US military uses to determine the legal drinking age in Japan. The case above is apparently a 38-year old man so the topic has no bearing on that charge but it did occur to me that if Japan goes ahead with a plan to bring down the age of majority to 18, and also makes it legal to drink alcohol at that age, then there will be a three-year gap between US law and Japanese law.

Would that mean that an off-duty 18 year old would be able to have a beer with impunity in Roppongi but couldn't do so on base? As it stands, there's a one year difference in the legislation anyway. I can't imagine many people would begrudge someone a drink if they have volunteered to serve for their country but I can see how the military might have become stricter as part of the attempt to reduce serious crimes in recent years.

[Mulboyne]

The IHT has his name slightly differently:

Tyrone Luther Hadnott

[alienchu]

What do you figure the odds are of Tenno Chinko's assertion that the defendant is most likely African American?

I can almost guarantee that, because MOST of the rapes/murders on Okinawa are committed by blacks. This is not a racial slur this is the facts

[American Oyaji]

I wonder...

In a wartime situation, some will use minors to lull a soldiers awareness. Until they pull out the AK-47.

Do you think there might be some Okinawan groups that are trying to entrap U.S. servicemen and then railroad them due to racial bias? (i.e. non-Japanese)

I mean, get them into a compromising situation where it APPEARS they have done something and then trump the charges?

After the most recent incident which was thrown out, I really can't believe someone would be that dumb because I KNOW that the U.S. military authorities infomachine went into overdrive.

[TennoChinko]

What do you figure the odds are of Tenno Chinko's assertion that the defendant is most likely African American?

Actually, I haven't posted in this thread (until now) so I assume you're digging up a post I made during the previous incident down in Iwakuni. And, in that case, my point was that crimes like gang rape seem to be perpetuated predominantly by blacks.

However, in this case, my understanding is that for this singular rape, the 38 year old Marine NCO is ... black.








[SIZE="1"]And, yes like 9-11, it was definitely an inside job. Always The Man.... Always The Man.... [/SIZE]

[MrUltimateGaijin]

"I really can't believe someone would be that dumb "

you know they hire retards, right?

[Uthark_Runa]

It is a real shame this happened. Even if this guy is innocent of rape he still put himself in a really bad situation. He should have known better. If it turns out that he did just make an advance to kiss her, and she freaked the damage is still done, and the people of Okinawa will take action.

[joshuaism]

The IHT has his name slightly differently:

Tyrone Luther Hadnott

Must be a political slant to the reporting here. Obviously the International Herald Tribine doesn't think he did it, while those who report his name as Hardnutt believe he did.

Do you think there might be some Okinawan groups that are trying to entrap U.S. servicemen and then railroad them due to racial bias? (i.e. non-Japanese)

I mean, get them into a compromising situation where it APPEARS they have done something and then trump the charges?

I don't think that is the case here. What reason would a grown man have to approach a group of 8 junior high school girls? Except maybe to offer them a ride (and not on his motorbike).

[Big Booger]

Why would a 14 year old take a ride on Hardnutt's crotch rocket?

[Samurai_Jerk]

What do you figure the odds are of Tenno Chinko's assertion that the defendant is most likely African American?

With a name like Tyrone Luther, I'd guess he's black too.

[Kuang_Grade]

[Samurai_Jerk]

I fucking swear, the US still has a hang over from prohibition.

[joshuaism]

After the most recent incident which was thrown out, I really can't believe someone would be that dumb because I KNOW that the U.S. military authorities infomachine went into overdrive.

If you are talking about that gang rape in Iwakuni discussed in this post, those guys are still in hot water. While the Japanese prosecutors dropped the charges, they were still being held by the base on UCMJ violations. Even if the military justice system couldn't get them on rape, they could still be had for sex in a public place, knowingly performing sex acts in front of another person, possibly (most likely) sodomy, maybe even adultery.

[TennoChinko]

I wonder...

In a wartime situation, some will use minors to lull a soldiers awareness. Until they pull out the AK-47.

Do you think there might be some Okinawan groups that are trying to entrap U.S. servicemen and then railroad them due to racial bias? (i.e. non-Japanese)

I mean, get them into a compromising situation where it APPEARS they have done something and then trump the charges?

After the most recent incident which was thrown out, I really can't believe someone would be that dumb because I KNOW that the U.S. military authorities infomachine went into overdrive.

Yes. It's one big conspiracy. All the way, buddy.

[xenomorph42]

I can almost guarantee that, because MOST of the rapes/murders on Okinawa are committed by blacks. This is not a racial slur this is the facts

Do you have the stats to back that up, I mean in full black and white?

[Kanchou]

"Facts" like that almost never have actual statistics to go with them...

OTOH, it does bug me somewhat to see how much more attention these rapes attract versus those committed by Japanese (although the likelihood that it will every stop is...nill).

I wonder what the proportion is per capita of rapists in the US armed forces in Japan are compared to Japanese (in REAL terms of per 100,000 population). And, how each branch compares to the others...

Although unlikely, if some Chinese country/countries (that shall remain unnamed) were to invade Okinawa, I imagine the Japanese would change their tune somewhat quickly.

[Bucky]

[prolly]

when was the last time a us military (alleged) rapist wasn't black?

i know this sounds like a very loaded and racist question, but i am genuinely curious.

[TennoChinko]

when was the last time a us military (alleged) rapist wasn't black?

i know this sounds like a very loaded and racist question, but i am genuinely curious.

[SIZE="7"]RACIST!!!!!!!![/SIZE]







It wasn't rape but back in 2005, a Hispanic USAF NCO, Armando Valdez, fondled a 10 year-old girl and took pics of her with his cell phone.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/anger-in-okinawa-as-us-airman-faces-child-sex-charges-497626.html
[quote]

Anger in Okinawa as US airman faces child sex charges

By David McNeill in Tokyo
Tuesday, 5 July 2005

The incident is the latest in a string of sexual assaults by American servicemen to have angered the inhabitants of the southern Japanese prefecture, which plays reluctant host to dozens of American military bases.

Police arrested 27-year-old Sergeant Armando Valdez - who denies the assault - after the girl told her mother a drunken soldier had groped her and taken a photo of her naked chest in a car park in the city of Naha. The Okinawa Times, quoting police, said yesterday that Sgt Valdez still had the photograph of the girl in his mobile phone when he was questioned.

Okinawa's governor, Keiichi Inamine, who wants US troop numbers reduced on the island, called the alleged molestation "unforgivable" in yesterday's session of Okinawa's parliament, adding: "I can't help concluding there is a problem in the US military's discipline." Japan's senior spokesman, Hiroyuki Hosoda, called the incident "quite regrettable".

The military, which occupies almost a fifth of the main island of Okinawa including Kadena, the biggest and most active US Air Force base in east Asia, moved quickly to prevent the fallout from damaging the already strained ties with the residents.

"The type of behaviour alleged is completely unacceptable," said the commander of Kadena's 18th Wing, Brigadier-General Jan-Marc Jouas, who promised to co-operate fully with investigating authorities. But some islanders said the latest incident called for more radical solutions.

"There is a lot of anger in Okinawa right now," said Shoichi Chibana, an assemblyman who campaigns for the removal of American bases. "People are afraid of these crimes because they just never stop, and they won't stop until the military leaves."

More than 50,000 US military personnel and dependants, including 17,600 marines, are on Okinawa, which has a population of 1.3 million]

[joshuaism]

[JimDanger]

I'm in the Navy stationed in Yokosuka. We're in the same boat as the rest of the population. Everyone I work with, after hearing the story, just rolls their eyes, says "fucking wonderful," and prepares for the crazy consequences of some douche bag's actions. We don't know why they do it either. What sucks, is that every time something like this happens, we're all immediately looked at like criminals. I seriously get uncomfortable just walking near a Japanese chick when it's dark, or alone on a street.

I know it may sound a tad excessive, but any claim against a service member, will completely screw them. The US is so worried about ties with Japan, that it won't think a second about kicking some dude out on his ass and back to the States. Regardless if he's cleared or not, his name has already gotten around base, or in the various military publications, so it ends up hurting them either way.

As for the race thing. If you look at the past couple years, the many of the more heinous crimes have been committed by African Americans. This is the only place I've seen the US Military escort a suspect completely shrouded in a blanket, and I assume that's because they don't want a picture of a black dude on the front of every Japanese paper, because it might lead to more difficult problems. I'd like to see statistics on the crime based on race, but I'm almost positive CNFJ doesn't compile any.

The Stars and Stripes recently had a story on the decreasing crime rate in Japan, however. Here it is.

Here's a little chart they used in the article as well:



Oh an as far as drinking ages go, the Navy is pretty much law of the land. 20 year olds can drink here. When we hit ports like the Philippines or Thailand, 18 is good to go, etc.

[Takechanpoo]

I know it may sound a tad excessive, but any claim against a service member, will completely screw them. The US is so worried about ties with Japan, that it won't think a second about kicking some dude out on his ass and back to the States. Regardless if he's cleared or not, his name has already gotten around base, or in the various military publications, so it ends up hurting them either way.

We Japanese nationals are paying 15 million yens per one serviceman though many dudes never be worth accepting this salary. Apparently overpay.
I had lived near Yokota air base in my childhood. I had annoying experiences from brats living inside Yokota. These brats, sons of servicemen, look down on Japanese. This is apparently influence by their parents who accept salary from J-national's tax.

[joshuaism]

As for the race thing. If you look at the past couple years, the many of the more heinous crimes have been committed by African Americans... I'd like to see statistics on the crime based on race, but I'm almost positive CNFJ doesn't compile any.

Well, I'm pretty sure the statistics have been compiled, they just haven't been released. I found this little bit of information from the Bureau of Justice Statistics inside their report on Prisoners in 2006.

BJS obtains yearend counts of prisoners in the custody of U.S. military authorities from the Department of Defense Corrections Council. In 1994 the Council, comprised of representatives from each branch of military services, adopted a standardized report (DD Form 2720) with a common set of items and definitions. This report obtains data on persons held in U.S. military confinement facilities inside and outside of the continental United States, by branch of service, gender, race, Hispanic origin, conviction
status, sentence length, and offense.

The Prisoners report is kind of light on information for military incarceration, but the Correctional Populations in the United States report gets pretty detailed, unfortunately the BJS seems to have stopped publishing the Correctional Populations report back in 1998. Neither report breaks down criminal offenses in the military by race. Incarceration rates are the closest they get when reporting on race.

Still the information is out there, if you can find a way to get your hands on that DD form 2720.

[Oradea]

Im not convinced. Its too easy for females to shout theyve been raped, when it comes to okinawa and american troops. I dont condone what is alleged to have happened, however, I am naive enough to believe in innocent till proven guilty. If he is proven guilty, then i hope he gets raped by wada akiko.