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Japan Getting Tougher On Dual Nationality?

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Japan Getting Tougher On Dual Nationality?

Postby Mulboyne » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:04 am

Terrie Lloyd has writtenthat overseas Japanese consulates may be getting tighter on dual nationality:

Most readers will know that Japan allows only one nationality. However, for the longest time, so long as a person was registered as a Japanese citizen first, whether or not you had gained a second nationality was politely ignored by the authorities. You just had to make sure that you didn't make it too obvious that you held a separate nationality. But now it appears that things are changing and the Justice Ministry seems to be conducting checks on Japanese citizens living overseas to make sure that they do not have dual nationality. For a sense of the situation, here is an extract from one reader's letter:

"...I recently decided, after many years as a green card holder, to apply for US citizenship. This was partly triggered by the increasing tension of the US immigration process, which has understandably changed in attitude since 9/11. The tipping point for me was when a lawyer in Japan advised me that although dual citizenships are technically forbidden in Japan, it is a law that is not enforced. Before I could complete my application process, however, I was told by another person that things in fact had changed. I confirmed this with the authorities. It seems that if you are Japanese and you renew your Japanese passport at your local US consulate, when you go to pick it up you are asked to show your green card or other residency documentation which allows you to be in the US. If you cannot produce this documentation, and you wouldn't be able to if you held a US passport, they won't hand over your new Japanese passport. Apparently this is how they are now catching dual citizens living abroad. To avoid this, I could renew my passport in Tokyo, but if I do, I have to show them my juminhyo [Ed: personal register of your residency matters]. That means I have to re-establish residency and live back in Japan for a few months -- which of course is difficult to do when one has a career to fulfill"...more...


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Postby Greji » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:22 am

Mulboyne wrote:Terrie Lloyd has writtenthat overseas Japanese consulates may be getting tighter on dual nationality:



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This apparently is aimed at the numerous people hanging out illegally abroad and not necessarily directed at duo-nationals. They just happen to get sandbagged on the Catch 22. The answer is obviously to get the passport issued in Japan, which might be a pain in the arse, but is still as doable as before.

Two of my rug rats, don't remember which ones, just renewed their passports, age 21 and 22. Age 22 has been back and forth to the states about four times since October and currently lists his employment in the states. He is alway leaving Japan on the J-passport and entering the states on the US one. No 21 is a student and as such, probably does not draw as much attention on her travels. However, both have had no problems about displaying duo nationality yet and they usually have to show both passports.
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Postby halfnip » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:29 am

Greji wrote:This apparently is aimed at the numerous people hanging out illegally abroad and not necessarily directed at duo-nationals. They just happen to get sandbagged on the Catch 22. The answer is obviously to get the passport issued in Japan, which might be a pain in the arse, but is still as doable as before.

Two of my rug rats, don't remember which ones, just renewed their passports, age 21 and 22. Age 22 has been back and forth to the states about four times since October and currently lists his employment in the states. He is alway leaving Japan on the J-passport and entering the states on the US one. No 21 is a student and as such, probably does not draw as much attention on her travels. However, both have had no problems about displaying duo nationality yet and they usually have to show both passports.
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I really do not see an issue, but as you have mentioned in the past it is not a problem when both names are the same---as your plane ticket, etc. needs to match. I have had an issue because my US and Japanese passports do not show my name as the same, so it has been quite tricky for me in the past. Luckily for me, I have an eye for the ditzy ones, so I tend to slide it right on in attempting to distract them with my charm (buwahahhaha!).

Neither can actually TAKE your passport away really, so as long as you're not out chopping people up and putting them in to bags, you should be fine. ;)
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Postby kurohinge1 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:40 pm

halfnip wrote: . . . Neither can actually TAKE your passport away really, so as long as you're not out chopping people up and putting them in to bags, you should be fine.


They can take my passport away for that?

But what if I packed the bags myself, and never let them out of my sight?

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Postby halfnip » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:12 pm

[quote="kurohinge1"]They can take my passport away for that?

But what if I packed the bags myself, and never let them out of my sight?

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If you show them your Japanese passport, they'll probably cease all investigations right on the spot. :D
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Postby ttjereth » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:03 pm

[quote="halfnip"]I really do not see an issue, but as you have mentioned in the past it is not a problem when both names are the same---as your plane ticket, etc. needs to match. I have had an issue because my US and Japanese passports do not show my name as the same, so it has been quite tricky for me in the past. Luckily for me, I have an eye for the ditzy ones, so I tend to slide it right on in attempting to distract them with my charm (buwahahhaha!).

Neither can actually TAKE your passport away really, so as long as you're not out chopping people up and putting them in to bags, you should be fine. ]

There's not really a huge distinction between taking away your current passport and refusing to issue a new one :p

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