When's the last time a Japanese died for religion?

[Taro Toporific]

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Jehovah's Witnesses member dies after refusing blood transfusion
Japan Today - News - Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 07:01 EDT
OSAKA---A member of the Jehovah's Witnesses sect died recently after losing a lot of blood when giving birth by cesarean and refusing a blood transfusion, officials at Osaka Medical College revealed Tuesday...more...

[FG Lurker]

Thankfully the only true religion, Pastafarianism, doesn't forbid vital medical treatments.

[American Oyaji]

[Tsuru]

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

[FG Lurker]

:rolleyes:

Just because you have been brainwashed and worship false idols does not mean that other more enlightened folk have not found the Pastafarian light.

[Neo-Rio]

It's a shame I can't become a Jehovah's witness. I never saw Jehovah's accident.

[ttjereth]

It's a shame I can't become a Jehovah's witness. I never saw Jehovah's accident.

It's right there in front of you everyday.

[Guy Incognito]

Thankfully the only true religion, Pastafarianism, doesn't forbid vital medical treatments.

HAHA... man not only have you made a devout convert of me, Ive come out of lurking status after ages... PRAISE BE WID PASTAFARI!

[Guy Incognito]

Wonder If I can use my new religion to get me a visa in Japan (seriously)

[baka tono]

Now that the woman is dead that must leave the population of jehovas witnesses in Japan at two? That is still two more than the number of people here who would understand pastafarianism.

[ttjereth]

Now that the woman is dead that must leave the population of jehovas witnesses in Japan at two? That is still two more than the number of people here who would understand pastafarianism.

There's a fairly good number of Jehova's witnesses I think. I don't have any exact numbers but I've had them visit here and my previous home two prefectures north, so there's either a decent number of them making the rounds, there's only a small number who make some really big rounds, or I just have the wonderful luck to move between places where they come by to chat me up for god.

[Mulboyne]

2004 JW stats

[ttjereth]

2004 JW stats

About 100-150 thousand now maybe? That's actually a lot more than I was expecting.

[dimwit]

How to be a Jehovah's Witness

[Behan]

Jehovah's Witnesses seem to be patrolling my neighborhood weekly and they even leave English versions of The Watch Tower in my mail box for me.
I have been accosted by them several times but I have resisted their feminine charms, for the time being anyway.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I don't know why, but JW's especially creep me out. When others like Mormons or whatever come to my door they generally seem like happy friendly people that just want to share their faith. But the JW's seem like scarey zombies doing something they don't want to do because they have to.

[Mulboyne]

Yomiuri: 'Under 15s must be given transfusions despite beliefs'

A committee comprised of the country's five medical societies has compiled a draft guideline that stipulates doctors should perform a blood transfusion during surgery on patients under 15 years of age even if their parents are Jehovah's Witnesses and refuse it because of a Biblical injunction, it was learned Saturday. The joint committee started discussing the refusal of blood transfusions by Jehovah's Witnesses in response to requests from doctors who have said they are troubled about prioritizing either religious freedom or respect for life. The committee judged that refusing a blood donation for children under 15 who are considered to be immature in terms of their self-determination capabilities constitutes an abuse of parental rights. The joint committee is comprised of the country's major medical societies--the Japan Society of Transfusion Medicine and Cell Therapy, Japan Surgical Society, Japan Pediatric Society, Japanese Society of Anesthesiologists and Japan Society of Obstetrics and Gynecology.

The committee said it would finalize the common guideline agreed by the five societies this year after hearing opinions from followers of the religious group and bioethicists at a symposium to be held at Tokyo Medical and Dental University on Saturday. Medical institutions belonging to the five societies are expected to compile their own manuals in line with the guideline. To deal with the refusal of blood transfusions by Jehovah's Witnesses, a similar guideline compiled in 1998 by the Japan Society of Transfusion Medicine and Cell Therapy--then known as the Japan Society of Blood Transfusion--stipulates that doctors should respect a patient's wishes if he or she is 18 or older. If a patient is aged under 12, however, it said doctors should prioritize saving lives, including performing a blood transfusion during surgery, even if the child's parents are against the transfusion.

The guideline, however, presents no specific rule in those cases in which a patient is aged between 12 and 17, because the committee had considered that people in this age bracket are still in their formative years and thus their decision-making ability varies. The latest draft guideline sets 15 years of age--the age at which children finish mandatory education--as the age the committee considers children can independently make a decision about medical treatment. In the case of patients aged from 15 to 17, the draft guideline said that a blood transfusion should not be performed if both the patient and their parents reject it. The transfusion would be conducted if the patient in this age bracket requests it, but his or her parent refuses. The transfusion also will be given if the patient rejects it but his or her parents accept it.

[Behan]

My younger sister, who is mentally retarded, had an elementary school classmate who died because her parents refused to give her medicine when she was ill. I don't think they were JWs but a group with similar beliefs(maybe Christian Scientists). What made it even sadder was it took a long time but nobody could do anything about it.
I wouldn't mind seeing the state overrule parents' wishes regarding life saving medical treatment for minors.
But I suppose religious freedom is a tough and touchy subject.

[james]

My younger sister, who is mentally retarded, had an elementary school classmate who died because her parents refused to give her medicine when she was ill. I don't think they were JWs but a group with similar beliefs(maybe Christian Scientists). What made it even sadder was it took a long time but nobody could do anything about it.
I wouldn't mind seeing the state overrule parents' wishes regarding life saving medical treatment for minors.
But I suppose religious freedom is a tough and touchy subject.

makes one wonder who was really mentally retarded in this scenario. it may not be right, but i tend to associate ardent and blind religious faith with low iq. it suits people who don't want to have to think for themselves.

[Samurai_Jerk]

My younger sister, who is mentally retarded, had an elementary school classmate who died because her parents refused to give her medicine when she was ill. I don't think they were JWs but a group with similar beliefs(maybe Christian Scientists). What made it even sadder was it took a long time but nobody could do anything about it.
I wouldn't mind seeing the state overrule parents' wishes regarding life saving medical treatment for minors.
But I suppose religious freedom is a tough and touchy subject.

It sounds like Christian Scientists. JWs aren't against medicine, just blood transfusions.

[baka tono]

Cant say Ive ever encountered a Jehovas Witness here. Im hiding from the NHK man though so I dont answer the door unless Im expecting a delivery. I have a video interphone thing so I use that to try and weed out the suspicious people.

[ttjereth]

Cant say Ive ever encountered a Jehovas Witness here. Im hiding from the NHK man though so I dont answer the door unless Im expecting a delivery. I have a video interphone thing so I use that to try and weed out the suspicious people.

I've run into them several times. Or rather they've run into me. When I lived up north they used a pretty tricky method for getting people to answer the door. They would have this really cute young Japanese girl knock and in full view of the peephole/door cam, then when you opened the door the rest of the crew (mostly hideous obaasan) would swing in from around the corner of the building or where ever they happened to be hiding.

[Mulboyne]

Jehovah's Witnesses member dies after refusing blood transfusion
Japan Today - News - Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 07:01 EDT
OSAKA---A member of the Jehovah's Witnesses sect died recently after losing a lot of blood when giving birth by cesarean and refusing a blood transfusion, officials at Osaka Medical College revealed Tuesday...more...

Yomiuri: Transfusion rules set for Jehovah's Witnesses

Jehovah's Witnesses aged under 15 should be given blood transfusions if their lives are at risk--even if they or their parents object on religious grounds, according to new guidelines officially announced by a group of academic societies Thursday. The group, headed by Fukushima Medical University Prof. Hitoshi Oto and comprising five associated academic societies including the Japan Society of Transfusion Medicine and Cell Therapy, also calls for the psychological needs of such patients to be taken into account. Fearing that young Jehovah's Witnesses who receive transfusions against their faith and the will of their parents could become distressed, the committee has requested that medical institutions provide child psychologists to give specialist counseling to such patients after they are discharged from hospital.

[Behan]

I hope they do start doing that. If Jehovah's Witnesses want to commit suicide after they are adults, then fine, but let their kids grow up to an age when they can make the decision for themselves.

[kusai Jijii]

Cant say Ive ever encountered a Jehovas Witness here. .

My God! Count yourself lucky. They seem to gravitate towards me like fuck knows what! I recon I have have a "Genkan Gladiator" session with those pricks on average three times a year over the last decade.

[ttjereth]

My God! Count yourself lucky. They seem to gravitate towards me like fuck knows what! I recon I have have a "Genkan Gladiator" session with those pricks on average three times a year over the last decade.

We have a door phone with a camera so we can see who is at the door. Anytime anybody wearing a suit comes to our door I just don't answer it

[Mulboyne]

[sublight]

Man, one of the best perks of buying a condo is that the guard at the front keeps those obnoxious assholes out, while holding the door open whenever my deliheru appointment arrives.

[Behan]

Man, one of the best perks of buying a condo is that the guard at the front keeps those obnoxious assholes out, while holding the door open whenever my deliheru appointment arrives.

Nice one!

[TennoChinko]