47 Year Old American Killed In Nishi Azabu

[Iraira]

Yeah, Take, that is kinda low, even for you. I thought Japanese were supposed to have some respect thing going on when someone passes away?

[Behan]

Isn't Take a gaijin pretending to be Japanese?

[Iraira]

Isn't Take a gaijin pretending to be Japanese?

No, today he's just an asshole.

[kusai Jijii]

Isn't Take a gaijin pretending to be Japanese?

Duuuuuuuuhhhhhh!!!!:shake:

[Visitor K]

And I heard that you Euro-American dudes also behave arrogantly in Thailand or the other asian countries. Probably this killed gaijin dude is one of those dudes who do rude things in short small people countries, which they never can do in their home countries. losers

i assume you have never been to thailand with a japanese person.. not worthy of strangulation or a beat-down, but many turn into fucking idiots. even japanese people i talk to say the same thing.

[kamome]

i assume you have never been to thailand with a japanese person.. not worthy of strangulation or a beat-down, but many turn into fucking idiots. even japanese people i talk to say the same thing.

The Japanese in Thailand are the worst fuckers down there. I've seen them around Bangkok in the "Japanese" section of town, walking around like they own the fucking place and treating the girls with disrespect. Take has no leg to stand on.

[Greji]

Hey two goats,
I just talked about general view of gaijin dudes, not about this 47 year old oyaji.

Himm. General view is it?

".....Hey angry dude,
before blaming J-dudes, you "good" gaijin dudes yourselves (if you are one) should exterminate "evil" gaijin dudes who behave rudely to Japanese...."

So, you recommend that SOMEONE "exterminate" the evil gaijins?

I'm sure Scott appreciates you're concern.

[Mulboyne]

There is still no news on this incident in English and the only Japanese online sources are from Sankei, Nikkei and Ameba. You would expect that at least one of the Yomiuri, Asahi or Mainichi would have carried a report and Kyodo would usually have something - if only in Japanese.

None of the three reports which are out there carry any comments from eyewitnesses so we really have no way of telling what this "drunken violent" behaviour supposedly was. It is also unclear whether the DJ was part of the club's staff that night but, even if he was, you have to wonder what the hell the staff members who would normally deal with ejecting customers were doing.

[Taro Toporific]

There is still no news on this incident in English and the only Japanese online sources ,,,.

http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/430108
CRIME
DJ charged with killing American in Tokyo nightclub
Wednesday, March 5, 2008 at 11:13 EST
TOKYO -- Police confirmed Wednesday that they have charged a man with killing an American man in a nightclub in Azabu on Feb 29. Atsushi Watanabe, 29, was charged with killing Tucker Richard Scott, 47, by choking him and punching him from behind at around 10:40 p.m. The victim was taken to hospital but died about one hour later.
According to police, Watanabe, who works for the club as a DJ, assaulted the victim after finding him drunk and aggressively shoving other customers. Watanabe was quoted by police as saying, "I tried to stop him shoving customers. I didn't mean to kill him."

[kusai Jijii]

There is of course one other point to be made about this tradgedy.While I appreciate that individuals should be responsible for their own behaviour, one cant help wondering what degree of responsibility the bars and clubs collectively bear (about these incidents in general), when they are all too quick to promise 'nomihoudai' deals, shots, slammers etc - filling the punters up to their eyeballs with grog - and then call in the bouncers to 'smack-down' on anyone who behaves too 'drunk'.

KJ

[pbm]

here is a link of a news report. i cant understand all of it. the link shows the club name.
http://www.ntv.co.jp/news/104276.html
i remember years ago a fg was walking down the street. a jn was beating his girlfriend and she called for help. he threw a roundhouse to the jn;s temple and killed him. the fg was given front page news and around the clock prime time tv news coverage. this story is being buried? anyway i think the fg got around 12 years or more? he was a martial artist and they had interviews with instructors in japan, on tv saying he shouldnt use martial arts in the situation he was in.
a choke hold is certainly a deadly technique. it sounds like the dj came from behind scott while he was in a shoving match with people in front of him. if you hit a guy with a hammer in the head and say i didnt know it could kill him. shoot a guy and say i didnt know it could kill him. use a choke hold, same thing? i think so.
i hope this gets more news coverage. i would like to see how this crime compares with the racially reversed similar crime, commited by the fg i mentioned, years back
my condolences to family and friends of scott.

[Greji]

Because originally weak dudes who are loser in their home country come to Japan to seek weaker-than-them dudes.

Here's the loser Take. You can see at a glance, he is obviously the type who is looking for the "weaker-than-them dudes". It's a good thing the Flower Boys took care of this threat to the mother land:


Tucker Scott, CFA
Executive Vice President
Portfolio Manager/Research Analyst

Templeton Global Equities
Templeton Investment Counsel, LLC
Geneva, Switzerland

Tucker Scott, executive vice president, joined the Templeton organization in 1996 and currently has responsibility for institutional and retail accounts. Mr. Scott is the lead portfolio manager of Templeton Foreign Fund and a co-manager of Templeton World Fund. He has global research responsibility for the commercial services and supplies industry.

Prior to joining Templeton, Mr. Scott worked for Aeltus Investment Management, where his industry coverage included telecommunication equipment and financial services.

Mr. Scott earned his B.A. in history from the University of Virginia and an M.B.A. from the Amos Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College. Mr. Scott is a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) Charterholder and member of the CFA Institute.

Recommended new PR picture for DJ:

[TennoChinko]

Here's the loser Take. You can see at a glance, he is obviously the type who is looking for the "weaker-than-them dudes". It's a good thing the Flower Boys took care of this threat to the mother land:


Tucker Scott, CFA
Executive Vice President
Portfolio Manager/Research Analyst

Templeton Global Equities
Templeton Investment Counsel, LLC
Geneva, Switzerland

Tucker Scott, executive vice president, joined the Templeton organization in 1996 and currently has responsibility for institutional and retail accounts. Mr. Scott is the lead portfolio manager of Templeton Foreign Fund and a co-manager of Templeton World Fund. He has global research responsibility for the commercial services and supplies industry.

Prior to joining Templeton, Mr. Scott worked for Aeltus Investment Management, where his industry coverage included telecommunication equipment and financial services.

Mr. Scott earned his B.A. in history from the University of Virginia and an M.B.A. from the Amos Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College. Mr. Scott is a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) Charterholder and member of the CFA Institute.

Recommended new PR picture for DJ:

Are you certain this was him?

Wasn't his name "Scott Tucker" as a previous poster who supposedly knew him indicated?

[Mulboyne]

The link to the news report that pbm posted above shows that the club was Bul-Lets.

Thanks, Taro, for the Kyodo link on Japan Today.

[eddie]

There is still no news on this incident in English and the only Japanese online sources are from Sankei, Nikkei and Ameba. You would expect that at least one of the Yomiuri, Asahi or Mainichi would have carried a report and Kyodo would usually have something - if only in Japanese.

None of the three reports which are out there carry any comments from eyewitnesses so we really have no way of telling what this "drunken violent" behaviour supposedly was. It is also unclear whether the DJ was part of the club's staff that night but, even if he was, you have to wonder what the hell the staff members who would normally deal with ejecting customers were doing.

ah you know better than that...the other customers ignored the situation.

and why does anyone bother responding to Take? The dude obviously gets off on agitating things and getting attention.

[Greji]

Are you certain this was him?

Wasn't his name "Scott Tucker" as a previous poster who supposedly knew him indicated?

No, I'm not. This was who was shown through various links with Big Daikon and others, with references by a couple of people who claimed to have known him.

However, you know how the news bandwagon is! Something happens and suddenly everyone knows him, or the intimate details.

They do claim this is him, but again, IGNFI if it is.

Marvin, where are you when we need you!

[Mulboyne]

A poster on Big Daikon now thinks the chap in the middle is our man. The picture is from here and shows "Scott Tucker" with two friends in the Baron in Nishi Azabu a couple of years ago after a Rolling Stones gig. The Baron is only a short distance from Bul-Lets.

[GuyJean]

Bummer story.. Wouldn't the embassy have any information? Or would that be only for family members..

It doesn't make it any easier that the guy had three first names; Tucker Richard Scott.

GJ

[Captain Japan]

Thanks, Taro, for the Kyodo link on Japan Today.

That report does not include the Kyodo tag so I think Japan Today just wrote up something on its own. I don't think this is a huge story but certainly the English papers ought to have covered it.

[Jack]

I have seen gaijins operating in Japan and many a times I have wanted to whack a few myself. And more than on a few occasions I would have deserved to get whacked by some Japanese.

[Gilligan]

I have seen gaijins operating in Japan and many a times I have wanted to whack a few myself. And more than on a few occasions I would have deserved to get whacked by some Japanese.

I assume that in using the word whack you mean punch and not kill, in which case, your post in no way relates to the tragedy that has occurred.

[Jack]

I assume that in using the word whack you mean punch and not kill, in which case, your post in no way relates to the tragedy that has occurred.

Like I said before, this guy's death was probably unintentional. He deserved to get punched perhaps but it resulted in death.

[Ghost]

What a tragic thing to happen. The club will take no responsibility for this, when i used to work for gas panic they said that if a fight breaks out never join in as because the person is drunk, they cant account for their actions where as a sober person can. This guy is going to be in a lot of shit for this.

On the other hand it really could have been an accident, maybe he tried to grab the guy from behind and he fell and smacked his head on the floor.

[Gilligan]

Like I said before, this guy's death was probably unintentional. He deserved to get punched perhaps but it resulted in death.

A) How do you know what the guy deserved to get? Were you there?

B) Even if it was unintentional, it certainly doesn't sound like the guy threw one punch that hit the wrong spot.

C) It certainly doesn't sound like you feel this was a tragedy. Sounds more like you feel like the gaijin had it coming to him because he was rude to a Japanese person.

[omae mona]

He deserved to get punched perhaps but it resulted in death.

It's great there are guys like you with the moral certitude to be able to decide on the spot who is deserving of punishment, what it should be, and who should carry it out.

For the rest of us chumps, we have to rely on antiquated ideas like law and due process. It sucks.

[Livehouse12345]

The second picture is of Scott at the Baron, I just got back from the funeral service. A lot of people on ths site seem to think that just because someone is drunk and maybe said the wrong thing they deserve to get beaten up or even killed, I guess some of the people here have never been drunk and have never done anything stupid? I would say that Scott was in the wrong place at the wrong time and made an ass of himself with the wrong person. Our bodies can take a lot of punishment, to kill someone is not an easy thing to do with your bare hands (strangulation requires a lot of preassure and quite a bit of time), it may not have been premeditated but this guy woud certainly know that he was causing some serious damage by his actions. For those being flipant it takes on a whole differnt meaning and feeling when it happens to someone you know and care about.

[Jack]

It's great there are guys like you with the moral certitude to be able to decide on the spot who is deserving of punishment, what it should be, and who should carry it out.

For the rest of us chumps, we have to rely on antiquated ideas like law and due process. It sucks.

You don't know the facts either. All I am saying is throwing out another possibility. We don't know what happened but all I am hearing is that because the dead guy is gaijin somehow the killer will walk away free. You guys really do have a chip on your shoulders.

[Samurai_Jerk]

The fact is none of us know what happened. Tucker could have been totally out of control and the DJ got in a couple of lucky/unlucky shots trying to subdue him that resulted in his death. Or the DJ could have taken Tucker down for stepping on his shoe with out saying sorry and beat him to death while he pleaded for his life.

What is truly fucked is the tone of the first article that shifted this to blaming gaijin in general and the fact that this isn't news because it sure as hell would be if Tucker had killed the DJ.

I think a lot of you guys are just as guilty of circling the wagons and blaming the Japanese every time something happens to a gaijin as the Japanese are of doing it to us.

And those of you who claim it's Japanese guys causing all the trouble in clubs are full of shit. I'm not saying the Japanese never start shit, but I am saying that gaijin do start plenty themselves and that there are more than a few foreigners walking around Tokyo with racist attitudes acting like every Japanese guy is a cockroach and the women are all two-dollar Thai whores.

[omae mona]

there are more than a few foreigners walking around Tokyo with racist attitudes acting like every Japanese guy is a cockroach and the women are all two-dollar Thai whores.

Well, to be fair, you do have to acknowledge the truth in the case of Noriko.

[Greji]

Well, to be fair, you do have to acknowledge the truth in the case of Noriko.

Hey! Leave me lady out of this, we be trying to talk some serious crime here!