47 Year Old American Killed In Nishi Azabu

[Gilligan]

The theft of the Mona Lisa would be a much bigger news than a murder. Quit demanding special attention just because you are a foreigner. Get that chip off your shoulder. Double standard? Absolutely not. That's how news works.

And the killing of the Pope would be a much bigger story than the stealing of the Mona Lisa. The thing is that the killing of the Pope is no better an anology to what happened than the stealing of the Mona Lisa is to the story canman related.

[Jack]

And the killing of the Pope would be a much bigger story than the stealing of the Mona Lisa. The thing is that the killing of the Pope is no better an anology to what happened than the stealing of the Mona Lisa is to the story canman related.

Of course it is you moron.

[Jack]

Oh, let me see. Because a Japanese may have accidentally killed a "white English speaking" gaijin, all flags in Japan should fly at half mast for ten days, the Japanese Diet should decalre a day of mourning, all TV and radio stations should only play the music the deceased liked for 24 hours, Japan should issue an appology to all white/English nations on the anniversary of the accidental murder, and henceforth all gaijin should be able to use the metros and trains in Japan free for life.

Fuckin pathetic cry babies.

[Baka Chan]

The theft of the Mona Lisa would be a much bigger news than a murder. Quit demanding special attention just because you are a foreigner. Get that chip off your shoulder. Double standard? Absolutely not. That's how news works.

I agree, media is a business. A gaijin stealing historical, religious artifacts is much more newsworthy than some random, drunken, foreigner getting choked-out in a club. Somehow the thievery of a trusted translator seems to hurt American image more. Sad but true. Okay, I'm going back to Oprah

[kusai Jijii]

Fuckin pathetic cry babies.

Jack, why don't you go and have a tug to a Kumi Koda video?:bukkake:

[Greji]

Fuckin pathetic cry babies.

Murder in your home area is only covered by the media on a case by case basis? Then when it does occur, are there serious considerations about the extent, or thoroughness of police investigations?

If that is correct, I think you should be the one crying and hope that it doesn't happen to someone among your family and friends.

We live here Jackson and we see shit like this all too frequently. You are right about the pathetic part, except it is them, not us.

[GomiGirl]

OK - I will go out on a limb here.

Long time residents in Japan get a fairly bad rap in the media from Ishihara and his ilk - how many news stories in the media about how bad foreigners are and how much crime they are bringing to japan against innocent citizens. Some of the news items have been fair as not all foreigners are nice friendly people only wanting to do their best in their adopted country and some have been beat-ups. But the point is that the news media never seems to miss and opportunity to tell the population about how bad foreigners are. This has caused so much distrust of normal, law abiding, tax paying foreigners and the prejudice has been often palpable.

The frustration in this case in the FG community is that there was an equally horrrendous crime that has been overlooked or swept under the rug by local media. This is just double standards and hypocrisy. I think most of us just want a fair deal and not special treatment. We work, play and live here and have mostly the same needs and really don't deserve the frequent bad reputation. (This excludes people like GReji who actually deserves his hard earned bad reputation but this is a totally other thread. )

[kusai Jijii]

This excludes people like Greji who actually deserves his hard earned bad reputation but this is a totally other thread.)

That right GG! Goats have rights too! I always treat mine with the utmost of respect, and I feel the G-man would do well to take a leaf out of my book.

[Greji]

(This excludes people like GReji who actually deserves his hard earned bad reputation )

Diligence and hard work pays off!

[Takechanpoo]

[sillygirl]

Diligence and hard work pays off!

Aww, I'm so proud of you....

[Mulboyne]

[aquamarine]

A) How do you know what the guy deserved to get? Were you there?

B) Even if it was unintentional, it certainly doesn't sound like the guy threw one punch that hit the wrong spot.

C) It certainly doesn't sound like you feel this was a tragedy. Sounds more like you feel like the gaijin had it coming to him because he was rude to a Japanese person.

I'm sure that I read there that the dead FG back-handed the DJ's girlfriend.

If you back-hand my girlfriend, I hope to hell that you don't mind a fat man coming at you who doesn't mind bleeding. I've taken more than my share of lumps in small brawls back in Canada and bleeding is one of them. I bleed, I start spitting my blood in your face while I punch you in the solar-plexus for slapping my girlfriend.

If I am wrong about Scott hitting the DJ's girlfriend, then I retract all my statements above.

As I posted in another thread, I have personally seen a Japanese guy DIE after a white guy (I'd -GUESS- American due to the brush-cut and fact that he struck the guy so quickly - Military is my guess) punched him, then CURB-STOMPED the Japanese dude. I don't think the Japanese guy deserved to die, especially since he was drunk and was just trying to fight someone. I -DO- think that he deserved to be knocked the fuck out only.

So there you go, that's my opinion, that's my take.

Did Scott deserve to die? No.
Did he deserve to get the fuck beat out of him because he back-handed the DJ's girlfriend? Yes.
Was it an accident that he DIED? I'd say yes. A choke-hold, albeit deadly, can also be used to knock out someone (this comes from 9 years of Judo, boys and girls).

My opinion. If you don't like it, go back to your other /b/-tard friends.

I'll tell you this, as soon as my restaurant is open, cameras will be installed everywhere that is legal (still looking into it). Oh, and yes, in my travels I too have seen foreigners treat the locals like shit, throwing their weight around BECAUSE they are foreign.

Case and point: My Canadian buddy who's parents are Chinese were in Xanadu in Shibuya (my fave club by the way). A not-so-big white fuck came around trying to get to the bar, put both hands on my buddy and tossed him off to the side. After passing by and re-gaining his composure, my pal confronted the fucker and asked what his problem was. The white-fuck said "Oh sorry bro, I didn't know you were a foreigner!"

So for anyone who says that SOME foreigners don't treat the locals like shit, I suggest you decide to wake up and see that there are quite a few of those arrogant cunts around. Two, sadly, lived with me in Tama Plaza (Yokohama), and luckily enough, one was deported for using a degree from a degree-mill.

[kurohinge1]

[TennoChinko]

I'm sure that I read there that the dead FG back-handed the DJ's girlfriend.

If you back-hand my girlfriend, I hope to hell that you don't mind a fat man coming at you who doesn't mind bleeding. I've taken more than my share of lumps in small brawls back in Canada and bleeding is one of them. I bleed, I start spitting my blood in your face while I punch you in the solar-plexus for slapping my girlfriend.

If I am wrong about Scott hitting the DJ's girlfriend, then I retract all my statements above.

As I posted in another thread, I have personally seen a Japanese guy DIE after a white guy (I'd -GUESS- American due to the brush-cut and fact that he struck the guy so quickly - Military is my guess) punched him, then CURB-STOMPED the Japanese dude. I don't think the Japanese guy deserved to die, especially since he was drunk and was just trying to fight someone. I -DO- think that he deserved to be knocked the fuck out only.

So there you go, that's my opinion, that's my take.

Did Scott deserve to die? No.
Did he deserve to get the fuck beat out of him because he back-handed the DJ's girlfriend? Yes.
Was it an accident that he DIED? I'd say yes. A choke-hold, albeit deadly, can also be used to knock out someone (this comes from 9 years of Judo, boys and girls).

My opinion. If you don't like it, go back to your other /b/-tard friends.

I'll tell you this, as soon as my restaurant is open, cameras will be installed everywhere that is legal (still looking into it). Oh, and yes, in my travels I too have seen foreigners treat the locals like shit, throwing their weight around BECAUSE they are foreign.

Case and point: My Canadian buddy who's parents are Chinese were in Xanadu in Shibuya (my fave club by the way). A not-so-big white fuck came around trying to get to the bar, put both hands on my buddy and tossed him off to the side. After passing by and re-gaining his composure, my pal confronted the fucker and asked what his problem was. The white-fuck said "Oh sorry bro, I didn't know you were a foreigner!"

So for anyone who says that SOME foreigners don't treat the locals like shit, I suggest you decide to wake up and see that there are quite a few of those arrogant cunts around. Two, sadly, lived with me in Tama Plaza (Yokohama), and luckily enough, one was deported for using a degree from a degree-mill.

Sorry but I haven't read anything about Scott Tucker allegedly hitting the DJ's gf. Any linkies?

[aquamarine]

Sorry but I haven't read anything about Scott Tucker allegedly hitting the DJ's gf. Any linkies?

Isn't it on the very first page of text here?

[Captain Japan]

Isn't it on the very first page of text here?

No. Mulboyne is summarizing that article which is using this case as an anecdote to the ongoing complaints that Japanese in Nishi Azabu have with foreigners - i.e. causing trouble with their girlfriends, kicking their cars, etc.

[Iraira]

Two, sadly, lived with me in Tama Plaza (Yokohama), and luckily enough, one was deported for using a degree from a degree-mill.

If you live in Tama Plaza, then you shouldn't be overweight. Lived at the apex point of an equilateral triangle with Tama Plaza and Saignuma serving as the base points of the triangle from 1999-2001, hence, no way to avoid the hills. The mountain climbing from the station (eitehr Tama Plaza or Saginuma) was the best weight loss technique that I've ever encountered.

Then again, any point can serve as an apex point in an equilateral triangle depending on how you rotate it or how drunk you are.

[amdg]

Yes, there was nothing about assaulting a girlfriend in this case.


I think the facts so far, as they are slowly coming to light, are:

-Tucker had been drinking, somewhere other than Bullets (possibly at home) and was upset by the level of noise coming from the club Bullets (I guess his home was near the club and he could hear the noise from his home?).

-He went down to the club to tell them to keep it down (no one is saying yet how drunk he was or how forceful he was in his demands).

-This was not the first time he had had a run in with the staff at club Bullets (presumably over the same noise issue).

-He was tackled from behind by the DJ in some kind of professional/technical headlock, and either had his neck broken or was strangled.

[TennoChinko]

Yes, there was nothing about assaulting a girlfriend in this case.


I think the facts so far, as they are slowly coming to light, are:

-Tucker had been drinking, somewhere other than Bullets (possibly at home) and was upset by the level of noise coming from the club Bullets (I guess his home was near the club and he could hear the noise from his home?).

-He went down to the club to tell them to keep it down (no one is saying yet how drunk he was or how forceful he was in his demands).

-This was not the first time he had had a run in with the staff at club Bullets (presumably over the same noise issue).

-He was tackled from behind by the DJ in some kind of professional/technical headlock, and either had his neck broken or was strangled.

Thanks. That basically what I understood too from piecing the articles together.

The other commentary in the Japanese articles about 'troublesome foreigners in Nishi Azabu' was either irrelevant or intentional chaff to shift blame to the victim, I think.

[amdg]

Thanks. That basically what I understood too from piecing the articles together.

The other commentary in the Japanese articles about 'troublesome foreigners in Nishi Azabu' was either irrelevant or intentional chaff to shift blame to the victim, I think.

No worries.

Yes it was certainly unwarranted 'color' commentary that had no place in the article other than to taint the victim.

[Big Booger]

If you have a problem with the noise level of a bar near your house/flat/apartment/hacienda/cardboard box... why don't you just move? You know that bars are loud and noisy. Why would you come down to a bar and tell them to be quiet... it's a fucking bar. THat's the business they run; noise, smoke, stink, fights, T&A,

I don't get why he was telling a bar to quiet down?

[amdg]

If you have a problem with the noise level of a bar near your house/flat/apartment/hacienda/cardboard box... why don't you just move? You know that bars are loud and noisy. Why would you come down to a bar and tell them to be quiet... it's a fucking bar. THat's the business they run]fights[/b], T&A,

I don't get why he was telling a bar to quiet down?

I don't know, maybe he thought that's the business they run.

[Kuang_Grade]

If you have a problem with the noise level of a bar near your house/flat/apartment/hacienda/cardboard box... why don't you just move? You know that bars are loud and noisy. Why would you come down to a bar and tell them to be quiet... it's a fucking bar. THat's the business they run]

If that West VA paper is correct, he owned the building he lived in.

http://sundaygazettemail.com/News/200803060766

Scott Tucker lived in a building he had bought and - as is Japanese custom - named it after himself, said Chris Mathison, Scott's former business partner.
Tucker had lived in the downtown Tokyo building, in an upscale section of the city, for at least 12 years, Mathison said. Two doors down was the jewelry studio of Tucker's wife, Yumiko Yamazaki. Between the buildings was the Bullets club where Tucker was killed.

[Behan]

It seemed a lot of people are being quick to suggest perhaps he deserved to be beaten up but not killed. But there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he deserved anything.

[kusai Jijii]

It seemed a lot of people are being quick to suggest perhaps he deserved to be beaten up but not killed. But there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he deserved anything.

True. I think one of the tragedies of all this is, that despite someone is now dead, few people are actually taking away any semblance of the message, namely, that people get killed when fighting, and more times than not, over fighting over nothing.

The families of all involved, both the guy who was killed, and the guy who allegedly killed him, will never be the same. The clock cant be turned back. What a fucking waste. And over what?

[Samurai_Jerk]

Sorry but I haven't read anything about Scott Tucker allegedly hitting the DJ's gf. Any linkies?

I posted that in this thread as an example of the kind of behavior that might lead to an ass kicking resulting in death. I hope it doesn't start a rumor that the Tucker actually did that shit.

aquamarine,

If you beat the shit out of someone you run the risk of killing or permanently disabling them whether you mean to or not. I can give you a great example that's one of those friend-of-a-friend stories, but it's true. A friend of a friend got in a stupid drunken fight when he was in college. He only got in one good puch but he hit the guy just right and shattered his eye socket wich basically made the guys eye pop out. So what was supposed to just be a couple of guys walking away with some bruises, scratches, and a story to tell their future sons ended with one guy losing an eye and the other one doing some time for a serious assault conviction.

[Big Booger]

If that West VA paper is correct, he owned the building he lived in.

http://sundaygazettemail.com/News/200803060766

sell sell sell

[halfnip]

True. I think one of the tragedies of all this is, that despite someone is now dead, few people are actually taking away any semblance of the message, namely, that people get killed when fighting, and more times than not, over fighting over nothing.

The families of all involved, both the guy who was killed, and the guy who allegedly killed him, will never be the same. The clock cant be turned back. What a fucking waste. And over what?

Over who has the biggest schlong, which is what seems to get us all in trouble every now and then.

[eddie]

I get the sense we won't be getting any more news related to this story from the press.