Talk me down from killing this guy.

[AssKissinger]

Maybe if you had a few beers with this guy he would chill

[dimwit]

Maybe if you had a few beers with this guy he would chill

That or maybe he would start making sexual advances.

[Ketou]

Apart from a quick knee in the knackers when in the elevator...

I hope you can sort him out without any hassle..otherwise.....

If you are a shain they cannot fire you without cause. Make sure you have your employment insurance...they have to offer this to you by law.
If they ask you to leave you can just tell them to fuck off and take a madogawa seki, or you can tell them to fire you so you can collect your employment insurance straight away . You do not have sign any crap saying that you are leaving voluntarily.

[Greji]

Apart from a quick knee in the knackers when in the elevator...

This is the best suggestion to date!:p

However, without knowing your situation with the company, what type of company it is i.e. do they move people on re-assignment between positions fairly rapidly (2-3 years), it would be difficult to say what you might do.

Having many, many years with a J-government related business, I've seen a bunch come and go. The good bosses always get transfer too fast and the bad ones linger (probably because nobody else wants them!).

In my environment it was easy enough to just lay low for a while until they transferred the turd, but in smaller companies this may not be an option. However, because of the networking and inter-connections of the business society, you always need to think before taking on even the worst of these assholes in a knock down, drag-out, because you never know his connections, or his relationship with, or to the superiors in the organization.

Usually, the only way to approach going over the turd's head, is during something like an after work drinkfest with someone who is above both you and the turd. Then you can casually bring up the topic in an "asking for advice" guise. Bad-mouthing under any conditions, is usually bad form for the J-company. Why, I'm not really sure, because J-employees will do it given the right circumstances in selected groups. But, normally, they will just ask for "advice" on how to proceed when talking with a superior and then and only then, during an informal get-together or for the best results, a one on one type night out.

You don't want to take a chance on a face-losing pissing match with a turd that doesn't mean anything and come out the loser for your future career or the effect it could have on other jobs that you might try for later.

Also, if the guy is a recognizable turd by all others, you may even come out better by the "gaman" approach even though it hurts to put up with it his shit.

However, if none of this works there's always the knee in the knackers as a great fall-back for an attention getter for adjusting attitudes!

[Takechanpoo]

Hey amgd,
probably his predecessor had had a dessatisfaction about your attitude in the office that you tried to positively communicate with only female coworkers(potentially you are looking on male ones as hostile) and speak by only gaijin Japanese. So this new supervisor was feedbacked these things from his predecessor and is trying to remove you by the reason you dont have a degree of J-language. You need to positively communicate with not only female coworkers but also male ones.

[amdg]

Good advice all, thanks. And each suggestion would be appropriate for select situations. But I guess I’m the only one who knows the exact lay of the land in my situation.

I spoke to the (ultimate) boss first thing this morning and he said he didn’t know what this guy was doing, fucking up my shit (my translation). Manager has no say in firings, and as far as he is concerned I’m in for life (whether that’s a good or a bad thing). He’s going to have a word to the guy about his attitude.

Well I’m happy, although it’s still early enough for everything to backfire depending on how manager plays it. He could claim I’m lying or I misunderstood him. But I have a Japanese witness in my pocket who heard what he said, and who nobody knows about yet. It could get interesting – will keep you updated.

The best thing about this has been the wife who actually gave me permission to take the guy down and get fired if it meant standing up for my honour. She’s a pretty cool chick, and will get a well-deserved tongue-lashing (in a good way) tonight.

[Charles]

It appears that cooler heads have prevailed and the situation is on its way to a resolution without spilling any blood (or alcohol). It never hurts to try a chat with the boss, especially since he's on your side (you two are united in a common adversary). Hope things work out for you.

Everybody ought to love his job
And live his life and keep his pride
Imperturbably happy with the one you love
With an exciting future
On the fat of the land

I need more than an ordinary grind
And the more I think the more I need
My life is going all right up 'til now
Even so it's not enough for me

I need more
Than I ever did before
I need more!

[Greji]

Hey amgd,
probably his predecessor had had a dessatisfaction about your attitude in the office that you tried to positively communicate with only female coworkers(potentially you are looking on male ones as hostile) and speak by only gaijin Japanese. So this new supervisor was feedbacked these things from his predecessor and is trying to remove you by the reason you dont have a degree of J-language. You need to positively communicate with not only female coworkers but also male ones.

Who do you positively commnicate with Tak?

[Greji]

or I misunderstood him

Look for that as it is the standard alibi. But, by going this way, never turn your back on this dud-e. He more than likely will try to approach you, or have a third party do it to explain he was only kidding around and just couldn't communicate right, but you can best believe since the big boss is now in the game, turd face is going to look for any chance he can to do you, behind your back.

On the other point do you really think you can lick your ole lady in a fair fight? Hmm....

[amdg]

Well he came up to me after lunch, after the boss had spoken to him, and apologised and explained what he meant was he just wanted to get a feel for my skills so he could properly market the company's skillset. (Yeah right, my qualifications are listed on the company website dude, as you well know). I accepted his apology, and tomorrow might ask him out for a drink, or lunch or something. We'll see what happens.

Greji, what you say is what I have been most afraid of. Yeah he probably will try to get me, later. I could probably accurately predict it - let's say between 12 and 30 weeks down the track.

But I thought about it all last weekend, and my conclusion was that he'd only been here for 4 weeks, and was already starting the skirmishes, so it wasn't going to get better, it was always going to get worse. And this guy is who he is, I'd better deal with it now. As my wife said, "A leopard can't change his spots, but they sometimes learn to stay away from the electric fence."

Thanks everyone for the advice / support etc. Doumo!

[kusai Jijii]

Glad to hear things worked out ok for now.
You might like to be a good sport and tell us all about the 'tongue lashing' you're wife is getting tonight...
Sick fuckers like me (and Greji) like to sit on our PCs late at night, drink beer, and become titalated by other people's sex lives...

No? Sorry, just thinking out aloud...All the best with things...
KJ.

[amdg]

Ditto!

Hey This is a pen! Ditto. But while it does function as a pen (with refill cartridges), it is also a voice recorder capable of recording 71 hours in one session. I thought I just got too lucky this time having a witness nearby, so from now on I'll have this baby with me.

[amdg]

Glad to hear things worked out ok for now.
You might like to be a good sport and tell us all about the 'tongue lashing' you're wife is getting tonight...
Sick fuckers like me (and Greji) like to sit on our PCs late at night, drink beer, and become titalated by other people's sex lives...

No? Sorry, just thinking out aloud...All the best with things...
KJ.

Thanks KJ, you know I can really do without this kind of schoolyard bullshit. I have things to do during the day other than plan attacks on other people in the office, but it seems he doesn't.

fan service ...[later this night]..


W: 'amdg, I know you don't think this underwear is very sexy, so I don't really want you to see it.'

A: 'How do you know I won't like it if you don't show it to me?'

W: 'Hmm, hwah. That's true. OK I'll give you just a peek.'

A: 'What? You call that a peek? I couldn't even see what color it was.'

W: 'It was black'

A: 'Black is nice'

W: 'You think?'

A: 'I'd need to make sure though. Better take everything except the underwear off. It's the only way to be sure.'

W: 'I'd be embarrassed, are you trying to seduce me, amdg?'

........

A: Maybe.....

[Behan]

Thanks, amdj.

[kusai Jijii]

Thanks Amdg,
I just blew....
On my 5th tall boy, so what can I say...

[Iraira]

Thanks KJ, you know I can really do without this kind of schoolyard bullshit. I have things to do during the day other than plan attacks on other people in the office, but it seems he doesn't.

fan service ...[later this night]..


W: "amdg, I know you don't think this underwear is very sexy, so I don't really want you to see it."

A: "How do you know I won't like it if you don't show it to me?"

W: "Hmm, hwah. That's true. OK I'll give you just a peek."

A: "What? You call that a peek? I couldn't even see what color it was."

W: "It was black"

A: "Black is nice"

W: "You think?"

A: "I'd need to make sure though. Better take everything except the underwear off. It's the only way to be sure."

W: "I'd be embarrassed, are you trying to seduce me, amdg?

........

A: Maybe.....

See this is literature...much better than anything that Jack ever wrote.

[kamome]

See this is literature...much better than anything that Jack ever wrote.

It would be better literature if it included the climax and resolution as well!

[Iraira]

It would be better literature if it included the climax and resolution as well!

How would foreshadowing and dramatic irony fit into this? Dramatic irony might be his wife calling out the dickhead at work's name by mistake. Then, we have an interesting plot and a psychological thriller starring Ray Liotta.

[Adhesive]

How would foreshadowing and dramatic irony fit into this? Dramatic irony might be his wife calling out the dickhead at work's name by mistake. Then, we have an interesting plot and a psychological thriller starring Ray Liotta.

Something tells me Liotta may have trouble getting the accent right.

[Ptyx]

He's still new he doesn't know how things work and he's picking on you because he believes you're not in your element.
You should show him how things work. Litteraly showing him how the company works.
Which means every time you have to interact with him you should explain in details how things are done, even if you know he knows. That's not direct confrontation, you're just being helpful, but in the process you treat him like a kid.
When he tells you he already knows, feign surprise. Remars how fast he's adapting. Also constantly ask him if he's adapting to the company well. Start all your conversation with him like that. How are adpating to the company ? Is everything ok ? Feel free to ask for help...
You can push that even more, by explaining to him really basic shit, like how to create a folder in windows, how to do a copy-paste and configure his email account and so on...
The rest of the time play dumb. Don't see through the shit he says, meaning if he's commenting on what you eat, don't take it as snark, take it as if he has a true interest at what you're eating and ask him if he wants some.
Basically the idea is to play his bullshit game until he gets tired. The whole idea is to always be on the same note, which means if he yells, you yell back, if he snarks you snark back, and if he punches you cave his fucking face in.
In the meantime get on everyone's good side in the office.
Good luck playing the Wa game.

[Greji]

Sick fuckers like me (and Greji) like to sit on our PCs late at night, drink beer, and become titalated by other people's sex lives...

How did you know that, you stalking me Ji?

[Greji]

See this is literature...much better than anything that Jack ever wrote.

Couldn't finish it. Had to stop and wipe off the monitor....

[Iraira]

Couldn't finish it. Had to stop and wipe off the monitor....

I rarely clean up afterwards, as I like the stalagmites forming from ejected material that hits the ceiling. I consider sex to be geological...geysers and volcanos, etc.

[Charles]

I rarely clean up afterwards, as I like the stalagmites forming from ejected material that hits the ceiling. I consider sex to be geological...geysers and volcanos, etc.

Remember, transvestites hang from the ceiling, transvestmites rise from the floor.

[Iraira]

Remember, transvestites hang from the ceiling, transvestmites rise from the floor.

What about hermaphrosites?

[Greji]

What about hermaphrosites?

preparation H?

[Behan]

This reminds me of a Cheers episode where Cliff and Norm tell Sam that their whole sex life is just listening to Sam's sexcapades.

A quote from Norm: If you're gonna give up sex you might as well give up talking. What fun is messing around if you can't tell the guys about it?

[eddie]

in a situation like this i always ask myself: what would brian boitano do?







the answer is obvious...feel free to go ahead and close this thread.

[Takechanpoo]

[kusai Jijii]

SUMMARY

There are many these gaijin dudes like amdg around Japan and in this forum.

You would know, nihonjin-nisemono that you are...