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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:12 am

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I haven't drunk a lot of Japanese beer but I must say none of them have been particularly memorable. However, I have an expectation that some good beer is made in Japan – it just hasn't reached me yet. Why does Japanese beer appeal to me more than other Asian beers? Japan has a very young brewing history. The first brewery started in the 1870s and had a strong German influence. Today there are four major brewers: Kirin, Asahi, Sapporo and Suntory. Asahi Super Dry is Asahi's signature beer and one of the biggest sellers in Japan. Asahi created the dry style of lager in 1987 and it was immediately a hit with the Japanese...The dry style spread around the world and I remember when it hit New Zealand in the early '90s. I tasted some pretty bad dry beers, especially the American versions...Asahi Super Dry, the beer I am drinking today, is brewed under licence in quite a few countries. My bottle came here from a brewery in Thailand...I wasn't expecting too much...The label is classy with black writing on a silver background and some Japanese characters to give a hint of oriental mystique...On opening the bottle a fruity malt aroma was immediately detected. The beer is deep golden with a yellow tinge at the edges. The head quickly settled to a thin wisp on top. The nose is subtle and inviting with that malt fruitiness. In the mouth, a rounded malt character develops to a rich body in the middle. Some hop fruit comes through in the middle and goes to the finish with the malt fading. There is only a touch of hop bitterness that finally leads to the expected dryness that lingers in the aftertaste. I was pleasantly surprised with this beer. There is some good delicate malt and hop fruit that is clean and well balanced. It is not as dry as I was expecting but well worth a try.


For someone who professes to be interested in Japanese beers, he took his own sweet time about getting around to trying Super Dry.
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Postby Visitor K » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:02 am

Mulboyne wrote:For someone who professes to be interested in Japanese beers, he took his own sweet time about getting around to trying Super Dry.


yah, those mystical oriental notes must be from the special japanese rice they use.. oh wait, he said it was from the brewery in thailand...

i am a pretty big beer fanatic (homebrewer for years) and i have to admit that the major brewers in japan make much better beer than their macro-brewery counterparts in the states.. i think mostly it is due to the lack of a real micro-brew scene (i know its out there, but its difficult to find and usually to expensive.. and while the big japanese brewers do a better job than budweiser and coors, their microbrews dont come close to a good Rogue Ale, Dogfish Head, or even Sierra Nevada) makes the macro guys make more interesting ales (those smaller runs of bottle-only varieties that kirin makes are pretty damn good for a micro-lager).
but, really? super dry? give the guy a kirin classic, so much more flavor in there than a super-dry.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:08 am

"Enjoy your precious memorable time".. some beer slogan I forgot which one said it.
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Postby uchimizu » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:42 am

I am taking this story late, but I basically agree with you: the major brewers have pretty good beers in Japan. Actually, apart from Belgium or Germany, they are by far the best beers I have experienced. I also prefer Kirin or even better Ebisu than Asahi.

Micro-brewer beers I have drunk in Japan were not a great memory. I have the impression most of them were developped as 'tourist attraction' (Nasu-Kogen...), without caring much about the taste.

Visitor K wrote:yah, those mystical oriental notes must be from the special japanese rice they use.. oh wait, he said it was from the brewery in thailand...

i am a pretty big beer fanatic (homebrewer for years) and i have to admit that the major brewers in japan make much better beer than their macro-brewery counterparts in the states.. i think mostly it is due to the lack of a real micro-brew scene (i know its out there, but its difficult to find and usually to expensive.. and while the big japanese brewers do a better job than budweiser and coors, their microbrews dont come close to a good Rogue Ale, Dogfish Head, or even Sierra Nevada) makes the macro guys make more interesting ales (those smaller runs of bottle-only varieties that kirin makes are pretty damn good for a micro-lager).
but, really? super dry? give the guy a kirin classic, so much more flavor in there than a super-dry.
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Postby kusai Jijii » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:22 am

Visitor K wrote: i have to admit that the major brewers in japan make much better beer than their macro-brewery counterparts in the states.. .


Like that would be hard;)

Japanese beer is great. This ones a no-brainer.

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Postby IkemenTommy » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:51 pm

[quote="kusai Jijii"]Like that would be hard]
One thing you can say about Japanese beers is that they go well with any type of food.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:27 pm

Obviously, if you want an ale or a stout Japanese beer doesn't have much to offer, but I think Japanese lagers are as good as they get.
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Postby GuyJean » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:33 pm

'Regular' Japanese beer is awesome!.. If Kirin is = to American Budweiser; no contest..

The micro-brews are coming around.. Try an OH! LA! HO in a bottle.. Good stuff!

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Postby Mock Cockpit » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:29 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Obviously, if you want an ale or a stout Japanese beer doesn't have much to offer, but I think Japanese lagers are as good as they get.

Actually Kirin Stout (in the can) is pretty nice, in fact I'd say it's an excellent stout. Kirin's premium line is quite good too.
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Postby Greji » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:37 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:One thing you can say about Japanese beers is that they go well with any type of food.



One thing you can say about Japanese beers is that they go well with any type of glass...
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Postby Tommybar » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:11 pm

Japanese beer sucks unless drank in Japan. Asahi in Korea, L.A., Chicago, Hong Kong, etc. taste nothing like Asahi in Japan.

Got to drink the local beer...

Asahi is not my favorite, Sapporo is.

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Postby kusai Jijii » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:43 pm

Greji wrote:One thing you can say about Japanese beers is that they go well with any type of glass...
:cheers: :smoking: :cheers:


too true G Man:D !
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Postby Adhesive » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:55 am

Japanese beer outside of Japan is horrible. Not even worth mentioning. I don't know about their equivalents inside Japan, because I tend to avoid them based on my experience with them elsewhere. I do remember the last Japanese beer I drank in Japan was Asahi Super Dry, and it was garbage. There was a premium Sapporo lager that they sold for a short period that I really enjoyed, but other than that the beer doesn't come anywhere close to something like a Sam Adams. I typically stick to the Dutch, German, Belgium stuff while in Japan.
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Postby Charles » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:20 am

Again, I think my general rule applies: the best beer is the one being served to you now.
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Postby kusai Jijii » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:28 am

Charles wrote:Again, I think my general rule applies: the best beer is the one being served to you now.



Charles,
this is the second time I find my self totally agreeing with you. Who would'a thought?..
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Postby halfnip » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:13 am

Tommybar wrote:Japanese beer sucks unless drank in Japan. Asahi in Korea, L.A., Chicago, Hong Kong, etc. taste nothing like Asahi in Japan.

Got to drink the local beer...

Asahi is not my favorite, Sapporo is.

Otona ni nattara, Sapporo.
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That's because Asashi is brewed by Molson in Canada and Kirin by Budweiser in the US. You have it pretty much correct in the sense that Sapporo is the ONLY Japanese beer imported from Japan. So while in the US, stick to your Sapporo or Yebisu (made by Sapporo).

Adhesive, I agree a good Sam Adams is great (I prefer my local Karl Strauss though), but a lot of the big beer makers here in Japan have been selling some ambers and ales lately as well. I, in particular, dig the Maroyaka Kobo Kirin beers... :p
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Postby Torimaro » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:00 am

ive been in japan for three months and the only thing i miss from the states is microbrew. Japan DOES have fucking great lagers/pilsners that put buttwiper and coors to shame. Orion from Okinawa is the best i think. I live in Akashi and there is the Akashi brewery that makes "Roman Beer" the closest thing to a pale ale i have had and the only thing keeping me alive.

The earlier mention of Rouge Ales and Dogfishhead made me drool on the keyboard.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:20 am

They occasionally have Anchor Steam at the local Yokado but I have yet to see Sam Adams or Sierra Nevada. OK, those don't really qualify as micro-brew, but they surely would put any happoshu "beer" to shame.
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SAVE THE ALES.

Postby Visitor K » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:26 am

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Postby Torimaro » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:52 pm

Ahhhh... you made me drool again...

yeah, i moved here from Seattle and my friday lunch consisted of two or three dead guys at dive in the market. I like tons of portland beers and seattle beers and california beers west coast us cant be beat in my opinion (maybe european beers loose something in the trans-atlantic voyage).

I might take your advice and start homebrewing, i live sorta close to kobe so i think i could get there and back in about an hour and a half... hmmmm



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Postby Torimaro » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:54 pm

SHIIIIT

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Postby Visitor K » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:25 am

Torimaro wrote:SHIIIIT


that would be the word for it.. tough break, maybe you could try to email them and see if they have any other ideas... i knew some homebrewer's in japan that would order stuff over the internet and have it shipped from the states/australia, and actually i had to do it a couple times because the price of the equipment was expensive in japan (and i actually saved money having it shipped), so all is not lost.. maybe you could email the store and ask if they have any other recommendations (they do speak english).
i myself am looking at different things to try and get brewing again, but its impossible to find the ingredients here in southern mexico, im sure you will have better luck in japan. good luck.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:22 am

NJR news but Belgian InBev closing in on taking over Budweiser.
Belgian-Brazilian brewing giant InBev wooed Anheuser-Busch on Thursday, vowing to respect its St. Louis heritage and not close any US breweries if it accepts a 46-billion-dollar (30-billion-euro) takeover bid.

InBev, which already owns leading brands such as Stella Artois, Beck's, Leffe and Brahma, offered 65 dollars a share for Anheuser-Busch on Wednesday, seeking to build an unrivalled global brewer.

Even though the St. Louis, Missouri-based company said it would "review the merits" of the takeover, InBev faces stiff opposition from local politicians and beer lovers, who were quick to attack the takeover.

The success of the takeover offer will ultimately be decided by Anheuser-Busch's shareholders.

The weak dollar is favoring foreign companies the financial advantage for mergers and acquisitions.
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Postby Visitor K » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:58 pm

InBev faces stiff opposition from local politicians and beer lovers


beer lovers standing up for budweiser? is that a joke?
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Will it be Kim Jong Ale(tm) or Beer Pyongyang(c)?

Postby Marked Trail » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:58 pm

Japanese Beer "Not Bad"
[SIZE="4"] But North Korean beer is better![/SIZE]
North Korea launches beer advert
BBC News 2009 July 3
...Billed as the "Pride of Pyongyang", the advert promises drinkers that the beer will help ease stress and improves health and longevity,"
"It represents the new look of Pyongyang," the two-and-a-half minute advert says. "It will be a familiar part of our lives."...

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Postby IkemenTommy » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:38 pm

Marked Trail wrote:[SIZE="4"] But North Korean beer is better![/SIZE]

I'm sure they invented the beer too.
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