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Japan lowers bar

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:56 am

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Blech!

Postby GargoyleTS » Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:36 pm

I guess Japan really is trying to kill itself if they think they need more lawyers! (j/k)

On a positive note, more lawyers is probably a good thing. More questioning of existing laws and challenges on the lack of enforcability of a number of laws (including the ever-popular labor laws) may help to get them revised to some standard of fairness.
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Postby kamome » Wed Jul 02, 2003 2:47 pm

The reason why so few people become licensed attorneys in Japan is because the pass threshold on the bar exam is so high. You have to score the equivalent of 95%-98% on it in order to get admitted. I'm surprsied anyone would want to be a lawyer faced with those kinds of odds.
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Like winning the 'Jumbo Lotto'

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jul 02, 2003 3:33 pm

kamome wrote:.. I'm surprsied anyone would want to be a lawyer faced with those kinds of odds.


Passing the bar is like winning the "Jumbo Lotto" or getting a license to print money. People are ALWAYS trying.

Also, big J-companies hire the "failures" to work as scriveners (paralegals) in their "General Affairs" sections. I'm sure you've met some of the older ones who visit the company after retirement---most are useless but some are a wealth of knowledge.
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Postby kamome » Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:36 pm

I have never met a judicial scrivener. The word itself sounds like it comes right out of the 19th Century. Care to comment on the etymology of the word, Taro?
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Let's CHOKUYAKU!

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:58 pm

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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:44 am

Asahi: Lawyers backpedal on quotas
The Japan Federation of Bar Associations is set to withdraw its backing of a government initiative to sharply increase bar admissions, it was learned Thursday. The umbrella body of bar associations across Japan plans to recommend that the Justice Ministry "slow down the pace of personnel increase for the near term," by setting aside targets for the number of people passing the bar exam, according to sources. The government plans to expand the quotas annually, to 3,000 by 2010, as one of the pillars of the country's ongoing judicial reform. The federation's administrative board will adopt the proposal in a meeting to be held as early as next week, federation sources said. The ministry may review its policy of increasing the number of legal practitioners in light of the federation's proposal and other views, a move that would fundamentally alter judicial reforms, ministry sources said. The number of people passing national bar exams surpassed 2,000 for the first time in 2007, after hovering around 500 annually until around 1990.

If the government proceeds with current plans, the judiciary--including lawyers, judges and prosecutors--will be 50,000-strong within a decade, from about 29,000 today. But many lawyers and other legal experts still oppose the policy switch, and the federation's move will likely spark controversy. According to the draft proposal, the bar federation believes that the increased number of people passing bar exams has resulted in "lower quality" legal trainees, because some law schools offer insufficient education on basic subjects. "To only pursue the quota of 3,000 will make the legal community one that lacks the fundamental legal knowledge and practical ability," the draft says. The draft also points out that many newcomers to the legal profession now practice law without having had sufficient opportunity to learn from senior lawyers at law firms because of the rise in legal trainees who fail to find work at law firms. The shortage of job opportunities is partly to blame for the degraded quality of legal services, the draft said.

In an extraordinary general meeting in November 2000, the federation adopted a resolution calling for measures to increase the number of legal professionals, to address the shortage of lawyers in rural areas and make them play a larger role in society. The plan to increase the bar admission quota to 3,000 by 2010 was subsequently approved by the Cabinet in March 2002 as a part of a judicial reform package that also includes the planned introduction of the lay judge system. In the wake of reported difficulties encountered by young lawyers finding work at law firms, however, the federation changed its stance. Many senior lawyers also fear that their client numbers will dwindle.

During the federation's presidential election in February, pro- and anti-reform candidates went head to head. Current president Makoto Miyazaki, who pledged to proceed with the judicial reform, won the seat, but only after he proposed to "reconsider" the federation's stance on the reform. One reformist federation member expressed regret about the planned proposal, which, the lawyer said, runs counter to ongoing judicial reforms. "It is as if the federation is setting aside its ideal to aspire to a judicial system that plays a larger role in society," the lawyer said.
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Postby Greji » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:08 am

Taro Toporific wrote:ambitious legal reforms aimed at recruiting more than 36,000 new lawyers by the end of the decade.[/u]


Hey Bird! What's loading 36,000 new lawyers on the Titanic called?


A good start!
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Postby kamome » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:04 am

Greji wrote:Hey Bird! What's loading 36,000 new lawyers on the Titanic called?


A good start!
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Haha! :D

I don't know about the lawyer part, but any joke that metaphorically compares Japan to the Titanic is a funny joke. ;)
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