What is your standard response to...

[nottu]

[wuchan]

Lamer.

what is this, 1999 on aol?

[kusai Jijii]

Lamer.

Looks like you were soliciting only for opinions in support of your friend's rudeness.

Who changed the title of this tread from "what is YOUR standard response..." to "what do you think of my friend's response to..."?


Think I'll see your 'lamer', and raise you a 'lamest'.

[Typhoon]

Who changed the title of this tread from "what is YOUR standard response..." to "what do you think of my friend's response to..."?


Think I'll see your 'lamer', and raise you a 'lamest'.

Right . . .

[nottu]

[Gilligan]

Your immature friend needs a much thicker skin along with a remedial course in basic manners.

I doubt his high opinion of himself is deserved. Probably shouldn't be in Japan in the first place.

There's no excuse for such petty rudeness unless they're trying to perform an unsolicited high colonic.

So let me get this straight, you're at the station talking with a friend of yours after a shitty day at work and some guy you don't know comes out of nowhere and interrupts you to ask for free English lessons, and you think that telling him to fuck off is rude? OK Stanley.

[kurohinge1]

. . . Thats it! I'm done with the P.C. new age sensitive Kusai Jijiii game - its just not me. I'm reverting back to the smelly old first rate cunt that I truely am.

You were politically correct, KJ?

Where can I find this holy grail of FG posts?



You're not telling pork pies I hope.

[james]

ah yes, the eigo bandits. definitely annoying, especially the old wankers who try to string together bunches of katakana together expecting comprehension on the part of the victim.

usually i just tell them i don't understand (and this is always the case anyway) and to ask them what they want. other times, i'll just put on my sunglasses and ipod and generally people don't bug me.

[Typhoon]

So let me get this straight, you're at the station talking with a friend of yours after a shitty day at work and some guy you don't know comes out of nowhere and interrupts you to ask for free English lessons, and you think that telling him to fuck off is rude? OK Stanley.

So you had a tough day at work. Big deal, who hasn't.

This gives you some special privilege to be rude and tell someone to fuck off just because he wanted to talk to you?

When an simple "Sorry, no, gotta go." would suffice.

Cry me a river.

[Midwinter]

So you had a tough day at work. Big deal, who hasn't.

This gives you some special privilege to be rude and tell someone to fuck off just because he wanted to talk to you?

When an simple "Sorry, no, gotta go." would suffice.

Cry me a river.

How long have you been in Japan, Typhoon?

[uchimizu]

I would tend to agree. Even after a hard day work, you can just say no politely.

By the way, I would think this "free lesson" stuff is exagerated, or limited to specific area (Roppongi?). While in Japan (been living there for more than 3 years), nobody asked me for a free lesson (although I am white and potentially a native English speaker). None of my English speaking expat friends had the issue.

By the way, I just wrote my 5 cents on manner for a foreigner in Japan. This is much more geared towards the short-term visitor, but your feedback in hardly welcome.

http://uchimizu-en.blogspot.com/2008/07/gentleman-in-japan.html

[Taro Toporific]

...By the way, I would think this "free lesson" stuff is exagerated, or limited to specific area (Roppongi?). While in Japan (been living there for more than 3 years), nobody asked me for a free lesson...

On average, once a week for 24 years for me, Y.M.M.V.
If I'm having a bad-hair-day I rant in Lithuanian to Eigo-bandits (but I've been a clean head for decades).

[Charles]

OTOH, think of all the times when you, as a newbie to the language, afflicted strangers with your horrible Japanese. And then have a little tolerance.

[Typhoon]

OTOH, think of all the times when you, as a newbie to the language, afflicted strangers with your horrible Japanese. And then have a little tolerance.

Exactly.

[American Oyaji]

OTOH, think of all the times when you, as a newbie to the language, afflicted strangers with your horrible Japanese. And then have a little tolerance.

I don't think that adds up Chuck.

In the one instance an FG is trying to communicate in order to survive in a country where they are learning the language.

The other instance is where Mr. Taro Tanaka tries to chat up an FG in Japan using Engrish they learned 20 years ago in high school.

The situations don't match.

[kusai Jijii]

OTOH, think of all the times when you, as a newbie to the language, afflicted strangers with your horrible Japanese. And then have a little tolerance.

1) I paid for my Japanese language instruction at university.
2) As a general rule, I use English with Japanese people when it becomes clear that their English is better than my Japanese.
3) I have NEVER approached a complete stranger with the explicit intent of practicing my Japanese
4) When two people I do not know are talking in a public space, I tend to assume it not the time to interupt and ask to practice my Japanese with them.

I guess I'm just cold hearted.

[Greji]

1) I paid for my Japanese language instruction at university.

I can go with that and I also hit on every female Japanese teacher and ran amuk among the female English Language students...

2) As a general rule, I use English with Japanese people when it becomes clear that their English is better than my Japanese.

You have to include that it is sometimes easier to accomplish things in business if you use English. Things as simple as making reservations at places known for long waiting lists, with a lot of times give the English speaker preferential treatment, where if you speak in Japanese, it's back to the "No openings until next week". Locating visitors for your company at a hotel is done easier in English. I always get the run-a-round if I use Japanese.

3) I have NEVER approached a complete stranger with the explicit intent of practicing my Japanese

Guilty. I have used many practice phrases with strangers i.e. "Are you alone?", "Can I buy you a drink?", or the old standby, "Would you like to come up to my place and see my goat etchings?"

4) When two people I do not know are talking in a public space, I tend to assume it not the time to interupt and ask to practice my Japanese with them.

Unless, they are women (refer to point 3)

I guess I'm just cold hearted.

YBF demands that one needs to be a little more mercenary...

[Gilligan]

1) I paid for my Japanese language instruction at university.
2) As a general rule, I use English with Japanese people when it becomes clear that their English is better than my Japanese.
3) I have NEVER approached a complete stranger with the explicit intent of practicing my Japanese
4) When two people I do not know are talking in a public space, I tend to assume it not the time to interupt and ask to practice my Japanese with them.

I guess I'm just cold hearted.

That was the main point of my previous post; however, Typhoon, for whatever reason, decided to ignore it and latch on to a far more minor comment that I made.

[Midwinter]

[quote="Gilligan"]That was the main point of my previous post]

Typhoon is very selective, a shame his parents weren't. I could have recommended them a good abortion clinic.

[kurohinge1]

. . . Even after a hard day work, you can just say no politely.

By the way, I would think this "free lesson" stuff is exagerated . . .

That sums it up for me.

Even if the frequency is as claimed (and I believe Taro-san - who no doubt is popular due to his sparkly, blue eyes), the presumption that all these people are after "a free English lesson" is just exaggeration. Maybe some Japanese think foreigners are fun to talk to, maybe some are bored, maybe some want foreigners to feel welcome in a country where foreigners often seem to be excluded. You can't assume to know their motives. But you can control how you react to them.

If they interrupted your intimate conversation with a homodachi*, then tell them that. But there's no need to shout abuse at them.

And, as the G-man's post alludes to, how many of the same drama queens who seem to be too precious to be civil, or claim to have never harassed strangers with their Japanese, have forgotten about their failed nampa attempts? Not every J-girl is happy to be accosted by a stranger (unless of course he has sparkly Taro-perfect eyes ... or a penchant for goats).

]socchi no hou[/I] but I thought that expression (which I heard the other day) was funny.]

[Behan]

1) I paid for my Japanese language instruction at university.
2) As a general rule, I use English with Japanese people when it becomes clear that their English is better than my Japanese.
3) I have NEVER approached a complete stranger with the explicit intent of practicing my Japanese
4) When two people I do not know are talking in a public space, I tend to assume it not the time to interupt and ask to practice my Japanese with them.

I guess I'm just cold hearted.

I think that's very fair.

[Torimaro]

today a student of mine (a dirty minded oyaji) who speaks really loud when using english, said that whenever he sees a gaijin he goes up to them and says " HELLO! HOW ARE YOU?" "AND WE TALK TOGEZAA". I said "so your hobby is bothering every gaijin you see?" he said "YES!!".

i giggled.

[Typhoon]

1) I paid for my Japanese language instruction at university.
2) As a general rule, I use English with Japanese people when it becomes clear that their English is better than my Japanese.
3) I have NEVER approached a complete stranger with the explicit intent of practicing my Japanese
4) When two people I do not know are talking in a public space, I tend to assume it not the time to interupt and ask to practice my Japanese with them.

Aside from the logical fallacy of generalizing from your particular case, do you have all this tattooed on your forehead or is Japanese evolution so advanced that they can read your mind?

[kusai Jijii]

Aside from the logical fallacy of generalizing from your particular case, do you have all this tattooed on your forehead or is Japanese evolution so advanced that they can read your mind?

Criptic and deep Grasshopper, but what the fuck exactly are you trying to say?
Hint: think before you type.

[abortedape]

if one of them english demanding twats came up to me when I was a drinking with me mates I'd be like 'do I look like a septic?' which means a septic tank meaning one of those loud mouth 'my countries better than yours' twats that you see down the bars louder than anyone else. fuck me those twats is loud. And for what? getting trashed in eye rak is no excuse to be noisy yah sad arrogant fuck

[Typhoon]

Criptic and deep Grasshopper, but what the fuck exactly are you trying to say?
Hint: think before you type.

I've provided you with an explananation, however, the understanding is up to you.

[AlbertSiegel]

if one of them english demanding twats came up to me when I was a drinking with me mates I'd be like 'do I look like a septic?' which means a septic tank meaning one of those loud mouth 'my countries better than yours' twats that you see down the bars louder than anyone else. fuck me those twats is loud. And for what? getting trashed in eye rak is no excuse to be noisy yah sad arrogant fuck

Can someone please translate this into English?

[kusai Jijii]

I've provided you with an explananation, however, the understanding is up to you.

In point of fact, you haven't provided me with an explanation at all. What you did was write some schizophrenic sentence about logical falacies, tattoos and mind reading.

Its just dawned on me, but English isn't your native language, is it? That's why you are all pro English bandit, right?

[CrankyBastard]

Can someone please translate this into English?

Chav talk. Best ignored.

[Behan]

if one of them english demanding twats came up to me when I was a drinking with me mates I'd be like 'do I look like a septic?' which means a septic tank meaning one of those loud mouth 'my countries better than yours' twats that you see down the bars louder than anyone else. fuck me those twats is loud. And for what? getting trashed in eye rak is no excuse to be noisy yah sad arrogant fuck

Who's loud?:rolleyes: