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Postby Mulboyne » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:44 am

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Postby Behan » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:50 am

His [Brendan Behan's] last words were to several nuns standing over his bed, "God bless you, may your sons all be bishops."
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:58 am

In Japan is it worthwhile to pove that your spouse is cheating? Can that info impact divorce settlements in any way?
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Postby Cortana » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:24 am

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She works on four or five[of the target men] at a time, which means she could be having sex with all of them.


can I sign myself up? She sounds pretty good to me.
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Postby xenomorph42 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:43 am

Cortana wrote:Quote:
She works on four or five[of the target men] at a time, which means she could be having sex with all of them.


can I sign myself up? She sounds pretty good to me.



I guess this is a step-up from the traditional hiring of a private investigator.

I'm just wondering what the long term benefits are for these women. Are they really trying to provide a service catching cheating spouses or are they doing this for self personal gratification?

I am also assuming this service is quite pricey.
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Postby AssKissinger » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:35 pm

So, some worn out middle aged dork gets to fuck some hot 20 something bitch and rids himself of his nagging ball-and-chain. That's my kind of set-up.
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Postby amdg » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:52 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:In Japan is it worthwhile to pove that your spouse is cheating? Can that info impact divorce settlements in any way?


Absolutely.
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Postby Kanchou » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:49 pm

I wonder how long before either some guy kills his wife for her, or she ends up getting raped.
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Postby Mulboyne » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:43 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:In Japan is it worthwhile to pove that your spouse is cheating? Can that info impact divorce settlements in any way?

It doesn't just impact divorce settlements. If a wife can prove her husband has been unfaithful, she can apply to have a portion of his income paid directly to her by his employer. In effect, she can get a form of alimony without getting divorced.
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Postby kurohinge1 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:22 pm

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Sunday Times: Japan's new professional seducers
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"Honeypots" make for interesting reading and seem to becoming more of a private sector thing. I read about an agency in England the other day and was surprised to see that their "agent" let her face accompany the article, which seemed silly when her "trade" relies on no one knowing she's a "honeypot", and she reportedly was keeping her real job secret from her boyfriend and family. Still, I guess they hired her for her pretty face, not what's behind it.

Her m.o. was to flirt with the target in a pub, etc. and secretly record everything said.

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:22 pm

Mulboyne wrote:It doesn't just impact divorce settlements. If a wife can prove her husband has been unfaithful, she can apply to have a portion of his income paid directly to her by his employer. In effect, she can get a form of alimony without getting divorced.


Wow. Can the husband use it to his advantage if he can prove his wife has been cheating?
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Postby Mulboyne » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:18 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Wow. Can the husband use it to his advantage if he can prove his wife has been cheating?

No. It's only for a wife to use against a cheating husband. It's a long time since I read about that aspect of family law but I think think it envisaged a situation where a wife wished to ensure that money was used for her children in priority to her husband's mistresses, and any children that might result from those relationships. By giving her this arrangement within marriage, it allowed her to avoid the stigma of divorce while also stopping a mistress from becoming a wife and giving formal family status to any children she might have. The attachment only applies to income and not to assets but, if she can remain married, then she and her children retain their claims on the husband's inheritance. I don't know how frequently such claims are made and how good the enforcement mechanisms are for payment. I do know that a claim can also be made by a common-law wife.

I also have a foreign friend who faced such a claim many years ago. He didn't have the guts to break up with his wife and increasingly made her life with him intolerable. He would leave evidence of his trysts in plain sight. It might not even have been deliberate: he might have just got more careless while harbouring the hope that his wife would walk out on him. Whatever he planned, she confronted him and spelled out that she was not going to give him a divorce and would be looking for a fairly hefty chunk of his income. They are still married today.
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Postby Gilligan » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:25 pm

Mulboyne wrote:No. It's only for a wife to use against a cheating husband. It's a long time since I read about that aspect of family law but I think think it envisaged a situation where a wife wished to ensure that money was used for her children in priority to her husband's mistresses, and any children that might result from those relationships. By giving her this arrangement within marriage, it allowed her to avoid the stigma of divorce while also stopping a mistress from becoming a wife and giving formal family status to any children she might have. The attachment only applies to income and not to assets but, if she can remain married, then she and her children retain their claims on the husband's inheritance. I don't know how frequently such claims are made and how good the enforcement mechanisms are for payment. I do know that a claim can also be made by a common-law wife.

I also have a foreign friend who faced such a claim many years ago. He didn't have the guts to break up with his wife and increasingly made her life with him intolerable. He would leave evidence of his trysts in plain sight. It might not even have been deliberate: he might have just got more careless while harbouring the hope that his wife would walk out on him. Whatever he planned, she confronted him and spelled out that she was not going to give him a divorce and would be looking for a fairly hefty chunk of his income. They are still married today.


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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:11 am

Mulboyne wrote:No. It's only for a wife to use against a cheating husband. It's a long time since I read about that aspect of family law but I think think it envisaged a situation where a wife wished to ensure that money was used for her children in priority to her husband's mistresses, and any children that might result from those relationships. By giving her this arrangement within marriage, it allowed her to avoid the stigma of divorce while also stopping a mistress from becoming a wife and giving formal family status to any children she might have. The attachment only applies to income and not to assets but, if she can remain married, then she and her children retain their claims on the husband's inheritance. I don't know how frequently such claims are made and how good the enforcement mechanisms are for payment. I do know that a claim can also be made by a common-law wife.

I also have a foreign friend who faced such a claim many years ago. He didn't have the guts to break up with his wife and increasingly made her life with him intolerable. He would leave evidence of his trysts in plain sight. It might not even have been deliberate: he might have just got more careless while harbouring the hope that his wife would walk out on him. Whatever he planned, she confronted him and spelled out that she was not going to give him a divorce and would be looking for a fairly hefty chunk of his income. They are still married today.


Yeah, I figured as much. These kinds of laws are almost always stacked against men. Your gaijin friend should've just left Japan.
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:54 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Your gaijin friend should've just left Japan.

Through a process which will be familiar to many long-term FGs, he had become virtually unemployable elsewhere. I don't know whether his wife actually went as far as to make a formal claim. I think the whole trauma of that time actually brought them back together which was good news for their kids. The bloke needed a bit of a kick up the backside: no matter how miserable he thought he was with his wife, some of the girls with whom he had taken up would have made his life considerably worse. Of course, it may be that their rediscovered domestic bliss is only a thin veneer covering a very practical arrangement which saves everyone's face.
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Postby pheyton » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:31 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Yeah, I figured as much. These kinds of laws are almost always stacked against men. Your gaijin friend should've just left Japan.


I find that hard to believe in such a misogynistic society as Japan.

I take offense to the "Seedy Ikkebukuro" slight. Ikkebukuro is full of fresh, you ladies looking for a place to stay. Living in Mejiro, I spent many a nights in Ikkebukuro. I once saw a beautiful display of art in there. It was a woman getting screwed in front of the museum, the one where everyone goes to meet their keitai blind date, in broad daylight. Class that could only be found in Ikkebukuro.
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