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aquamarine wrote:I still stick to my guns that if someone decides it's a good idea to strike my girlfriend, I will step in and expect to get bloody.
Mulboyne wrote:You have to wonder why both the Nikkei and Sankei described Scott Tucker as "unemployed". Perhaps that is their default setting in cases where they don't know what someone actually does but it seem inappropriate. It is also richly ironic that the Ameba account reported the concerns of local residents about trouble when it looks like Mr. Tucker not only was a local resident but, according to his brother, owned his own property.
It is not that uncommon for residents to complain about noise from local bars and clubs. I've been in a few when someone has stormed in wearing pajamas to rant about the music and there's a whole section in Mark D. West's "Law in Everyday Japan" about disputes between karaoke bars and nearby residents.
Even his family talk about a drink problem - although by American definitions, most North Europeans have a drink problem - but it looks like he went into the club alone so any accounts of how he acted there can only come from the staff and clubgoers.
The man accused of killing Scott Tucker, a Charleston native killed in a Tokyo bar fight last month, is not likely to receive a severe punishment, a Japanese newspaper reported this week. An official with Tokyo police told Japan Today, an English-language newspaper, that Tucker appeared very drunk and acted violently toward customers, at times striking a boxer's pose. Atsushi Watanabe, a 29-year-old disc jockey at the Bullets club, is charged with killing Tucker. Last week police told Chip Tucker, Scott's brother, that Watanabe used a specialized technique intended to do harm. "My understanding, when I left Tokyo, this was going to be considered not an accident but an aggressive attack with intent," Chip Tucker said Thursday. "It is going to be pursued aggressively with a severe penalty." The club was known for parties, noise and fights, Chip Tucker has said. He also said his brother had been drinking and had recently developed a drinking problem.
Tucker said it does not appear that Watanabe, who had no previous criminal record, intended to kill his brother. Still, he said his family will seek the maximum penalty for Watanabe. That won't be determined until Watanabe is formally charged after the investigation has ended, he said. Watanabe will probably give a confession and be convicted, said Michael Griffith, an international criminal defense attorney who has handled many cases in Japan. But he doesn't expect the man to be sentenced to much jail time, he said. Griffith doesn't put much faith in the Japanese legal system to handle the case properly. "To me Japan, and this includes Cuba, has one of the worst legal systems I've ever come across," he said. "The problem is there are no juries. Everything goes to a three-judge panel, none of which have ever practiced law. The judges are trained to be a judge in a school."
Griffith was the lawyer for two U.S. Marines convicted of raping a 12-year-old Japanese girl in Okinawa in 1995. The incident sparked protests to end the U.S. military presence in Japan. Japanese police routinely hold suspects for 23 days without seeing a judge, Griffith said. During that time they can interrogate them daily, for as much as 12 hours at a time. Griffith said he believes the Tucker family will get a conviction when the case goes to trial, but will not be happy with the sentence. "Over the last 10 years the conviction rate is 99.95 percent for cases going to trial. The confession rate is 95 percent," he said. "The lawyers over there aren't defense lawyers. I'd categorize them as sentencing experts."
It is also customary for the accused to give a gift of a few thousand dollars to the family of the victim before the case is over, often as a way of showing contrition and getting a more lenient sentence, Griffith said. "In a way it's grotesque, that a defendant would offer money to the family," he said. "It's really unfair, I think. "A guy is in this whole dilemma. He hasn't been found guilty but ... he still knows he is going to be found guilty. So he offers monies to the family for a lighter sentence." But once a case goes to sentencing, the convicted often get more lenient sentences than in the U.S., he said. People convicted for murder often get under 10 years, he said.
eddie wrote:this d-j is gonna be the hottest thing on the club circuit once he gets out of jail in a few years.
mark my words.
tv too!
amdg wrote: And I agree, it's incredibly sloppy reporting - I mean if you don't know his employment status, you shouldn't include it.
Behan wrote:I wonder if it isn't being wrongly described as a 'fight'. Even if he was belligerent, it sounds more like the disc jockey jumped him from behind and killed him.
Maybe it should read 'assault'.
A lot of people must must have seen it. I'd like to know what really happened.
pheyton wrote:Any updates in this case?
"As we observed [the trial] what really disturbed me was that Scott was killed, his Adam's apple was crushed. He was choked to death from behind," Yoshida said. "The doctor who did the autopsy came in and testified that [the strangling] had to be two or three minutes or more. ... And to crush his Adam's apple, how in the world do average people know how to do something like that?"
Mulboyne wrote:Three years in prison suspended for five years is the sentence which was handed down to Robert Nolan (link is to an earlier post in this thread). It seems the courts are treating these cases as roughly equivalent. Nolan appealed his sentence but it was rejected in July by the high court.
Catoneinutica wrote:"Roughly equivalent"? Well, they both occurred in Japan, and both involved Americans and Japanese, but putting someone in a chokehold would seem at first blush to be a bit more, uh, proactive, and likely to induce a state of non-life, than pushing someone.
Mulboyne wrote:I agree completely. Reading the article that Taro posted, it is disappointing that his widow feels let down by the prosecution. The feelings of victims and their families are usually important considerations. One problem in Scott Tucker's case is that there don't appear to have been any witnesses willing to testify that Watanabe was the aggressor or that he overreacted. I'm still in the dark as to whether Tucker hit Watanabe first or whether Watanabe just grabbed him in a chokehold from behind to subdue him. If it was the latter, then the claim of self-defence seems a bit odd unless he meant something like "I didn't want to stop crushing his throat in case he hit me" That would be something like self-defence against someone else's potential self-defence which is an interesting concept. Pre-emptive self-defence, if you will.
Without such testimony, perhaps prosecutors felt they couldn't press a charge greater than the one for which Nolan was convicted. Perhaps they placed a greater value on bringing a successful prosecution than pressing a more serious charge. After all, the statistics will show in both cases that a perpetrator was tried and convicted which is what most prosecutors want on their records.
I don't want to suggest that anyone had Nolan's case in mind during Watanabe's trial but it does provide some basis for comparison. They come from two different directions, however: Nolan is aggrieved that he has been blamed at all for the death of the man in Yokohama and pleaded not guilty to the charge. Watanabe pleaded guilty but offered mitigating circumstances to try to lessen the severity of his sentence (which hasn't been confirmed yet).
Depends! What was the wine and what year? It may have been the wrong bouquet...Behan wrote:He was provoked into smashing a botle over the man's head the judge believes. Hmm.....
Prosecutors in Japan have decided not appeal the sentence in the murder conviction of a man placed on five years' probation for murdering Charleston native and West Virginia University graduate Scott Tucker. "Prosecutors decided not to even present the appeal," said Kenneth Tucker II, Scott Tucker's brother. "They said the witness's testimony was strong enough not to appeal." Tucker's wife and family had hoped prosecutors would appeal the sentencing in an attempt to get the man jail time. But prosecutors said Thursday they would not pursue an appeal before the two-week window to file ends on Monday.
On Sept. 8, Atsushi Watanabe, 29, was sentenced to three years in prison or five years' probation for killing Scott Tucker. Under Japanese law, probation in murder cases can begin immediately so Watanabe will serve five years probation rather than three years in prison, David Yoshida, who attended the trial with Tucker's wife, Yumiko Yamazaki, said previously. Yamazaki is weighing her options in pursuing a civil case against Watanabe, Kenneth Tucker said. "Unfortunately we just have to live with it and go on," he said. "I know my brother was a Christian and I hope to see him again someday."
Tucker, 47, had been drinking at a bar before going into Bullets, a club located beside his home in downtown Tokyo. The club was known for its parties, noise and fights, and Tucker went there because he wanted the place to quiet down, according to witness statements. At the time, officials with Tokyo police told Japan Today, an English-language newspaper, that Tucker appeared very drunk and acted violently toward customers, at times striking a boxer's pose. "With the help of alcohol he went down there to tell them," said David Yoshida, who attended the trial with Yamakazi.
Yoshida, a Baptist missionary, served as an interpreter for Ken Tucker when he went to Japan after his brother died. According to Yoshida and Yamazaki, witnesses told the court that Scott pushed a couple of people who fell on the floor and were not hurt. Watanabe then kicked him in the groin and got Tucker in a chokehold, crushing his Adam's apple.
In court, Watanabe said he felt his life was in danger. Watanabe is 5 feet, 9 inches and weighs 154 pounds. Scott was 5 feet, 9 inches and weighed 242 pounds. The courtroom was flooded with supporters for Watanabe, Yoshida said. Earlier this week, Tucker's family sent a letter to Ichiro Fujisaki, Japan's ambassador to the United States. They hope that he will look into the case. "We do not understand how it is possible that the two detectives (Sergeant Abe and Megumi Akita, who assured us the evidence pointed to a deliberate and brutal murder), were not in court because they had been re-assigned or possibly promoted; nor do we understand the absence of the original prosecutor at the trial," Kenneth Tucker wrote in the letter, provided to the Gazette. "We also don't understand how our family's concerns were not admitted into evidence during the court proceeding."
The conviction rate for those accused of murder in Japan is 99.95 percent, Michael Griffith, an international criminal defense attorney who has handled many cases in Japan said previously. Japanese police routinely hold suspects for 23 days without seeing a judge, Griffith said. During that time they can interrogate them daily, for as much as 12 hours at a time. "The lawyers over there aren't defense lawyers. I'd categorize them as sentencing experts," Griffith said previously. Once a case goes to sentencing, the convicted often get more lenient sentences than in the U.S., he said. People convicted for murder often get under 10 years, he said.
"We do not understand how it is possible that the two detectives (Sergeant Abe and Megumi Akita, who assured us the evidence pointed to a deliberate and brutal murder), were not in court because they had been re-assigned or possibly promoted; nor do we understand the absence of the original prosecutor at the trial," Kenneth Tucker wrote in the letter, provided to the Gazette. "We also don't understand how our family's concerns were not admitted into evidence during the court proceeding."
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