2channelers Say This is A Fake

[Takechanpoo]

[YT]NRxnOny_IXQ[/YT]
bubble can be found at 1:05 and 2:33
This film was made inside water?

[TFG]

Doesn't look like air bubbles in water to me, the shape is wrong.
The 2chan idiots are only jealous because Japan does not have the capability to launch a manned spacecraft.

[Charles]

Doesn't look like air bubbles in water to me, the shape is wrong.
The 2chan idiots are only jealous because Japan does not have the capability to launch a manned spacecraft.

I suspect that Japan and China both have equal abilities to launch manned spacecraft, but the Chinese are more willing to try again and again, in secrecy, to bury their failures, while the Japanese are unwilling to risk a public failure.

[wuchan]

I don't know. Some things just don't seem right. The earth doesn't seem to be moving, in most NASA footage the earth seems to be moving very fast due to the orbital speed of the space shuttle. I am not an astrophysiscist but it just seems like it is fake. I think hollywood could do a better job. I do not doubt china's ability to launch shit into space but this video.... well it is on youtube.

I saw another "bubble" at 1:58.

[Takechanpoo]

another one

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[IkemenTommy]

bubble can be found at 1:05 and 2:33
This film was made inside water?

If they aren't bubbles in water, then they are facing some serious problems like oxygen leak (they'd be suffering decompression) or fallen debris from their spacecraft (probably not a good thing during reentry).

If you ever scroll the tab left and right fast to pan through the video, you might also notice how the earth bows down and up. I don't know if it's supposed to do that because the spacecraft is somewhat rotating in axis or whatever. I am no expert in this at all.

Towards the very end, what appears to be solar panel cells(?) bounce back and forth. Either you are having a disaster waiting to happen because remember, there is no air in space cause turbulence of the wings or that is just ABC (Another Bad Chinese) creation.

Usually Take posts have given him the infamous troll identity, but for once he might be on to something here. Are there any actual launch take-off videos?
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[Midwinter]

IT'S A FAKE!!!

[IkemenTommy]

IT'S A FAKE!!!

Vagina?

[Takechanpoo]

Are there any actual launch take-off videos?

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Why are not three C-astronauts being vibrated at all?

[Kanchou]

I count at least four bubbles. There's one right at 2:00 and a few more between there and 2:35.

Some of the equipment looks like it's floating in water, some of it looks like legitimate Zero-G. The flag for example, looks like it's in real zero-g because of the erratic movements that would be much more predictable in water.

OTOH, a few of the tassels hanging off their suits look like they're in a fluid environment... but that might just be inertia.

I'd say it's probably real, but they've got some sort of technical issues... like a fluid leak or something.

But you have to wonder why all the bubbles went straight up... fluid bubbles in space tend to just meander around.

And the earth should DEFINITELY be moving at least a little.

[Kuang_Grade]

The guylines connecting the astronaut to the capsule dont look like they are being subjected to gravity...they bounce around a couple different ways...if it was in water and they were filled with air, they would tend to bounce only towards one way, although I suppose if you used water jets you could do it, but then the astronauts would have a really hard time staying in place.

For the earth turning speed, I think its more a case of perspective...In a car, if you focus far ahead with nothing close up to you ahead, it doesn't really seem like you are moving that fast, but if you look down out your window at the ground is blazing past. Also, it looks like they are also orbiting in the same direction of the earth's rotation...if they were doing going the other way, it would be going by much faster. If you watch in the beginning, you can see that the earth does move slowly.

To me it looks like standard chinese quality issues.

[String]

It's hard to quantify but the video looks fake as hell.

Let's see, what's one thing one would find in outer space that one does not see in this video. Cats? No...no cats. Interstellar unagi? No, no... oh wait... stellar... stars... that's right, there are no stars in the background, just blackness.

The lighting seems wrong, the way the flag and straps and cords move seem wrong, and I would be very surprised if this were a genuine video. It looks like what Saturday Night Live would come up with if they had to do a spacewalk skit.

[Kanchou]

If you pay close enough attention the Earth is revolving like the second-hand on a clock... it's jerking a couple of degrees every couple of frames instead of the smooth rotation you see in NASA videos.

[Tengu Kid]

[YT]NRxnOny_IXQ[/YT]
bubble can be found at 1:05 and 2:33
This film was made inside water?

I feel like it looks fake as hell but then i dont really know what im basing that on. probably hollywood movies that ive seen. at the end of the day im not a rocket scientist nor astronaut so while i could say that there are no stars, there are water bubbles, the earth isnt moving and the flag seems to be moving more than it should, i really have no idea what it would or wouldnt look like if i was there.

[pheyton]

It's quite real. The movement is there. Those aren't bubbles, they are some sort of debris, which might be something seriously dangerous. If they were bubbles they would drift in the same direction, up.

See the big ass BRIGHT globe in the background? That is why you can see any stars. You have a massive light blocking out star light.

Chinese Govt. is fucked, but I say congratulations to them on this historic feat. Now, onto mars so our species has a chance at survivng American idiocy.

[Charles]

..See the big ass BRIGHT globe in the background? That is why you can see any stars. You have a massive light blocking out star light..

Well, not quite. Cameras have only a limited range of brightness they can capture. It's like your eyes that can adjust to seeing in a darkened room, and then when someone flips on the light switch, you can't see anything until your eyes readjust to a new range of brighter light.
This is a common topic amongst the Apollo Hoax idiots. They ask why you can't see any stars in the sky in pictures taken on the moon's surface. Well, if they'd used a tripod and a longer exposure, you could have captured the stars, but the astronauts and the lunar surface would be overexposed. Film (and video) doesn't have a enough dynamic range to capture both at the same time, they were trying to take pictures of the astronauts, not the sky. Nowadays people get around the problem with HDR (high dynamic range) techniques involving multiple frames at different exposures, and merge them into one frame. But that only works for non-moving objects.

[AssKissinger]

It's quite real. The movement is there. Those aren't bubbles, they are some sort of debris, which might be something seriously dangerous. If they were bubbles they would drift in the same direction, up.

See the big ass BRIGHT globe in the background? That is why you can see any stars. You have a massive light blocking out star light.

Chinese Govt. is fucked, but I say congratulations to them on this historic feat. Now, onto mars so our species has a chance at survivng American idiocy.

Great post

[Kagetsu]

Just a quick note. First of all... As said, not bubbles.

Notice in the footage of them openning the hatch, you'll see large pieces of 'debree' come away from the hatch, as if it's 'blown out'... And it's important to understand in an airlock it's not a perfect vaccuum... It's near vaccuum, but not perfect, there'll still be some gas left in the facinity.

As for bits and pieces flying off... Most likely it's ice.

As the rocket propelles through the atmosphere, you'll find that moisture collected in the seals and edges solidifies very quickly... 'snow' similar to what you see in a freezer on items that have been exposed to humidity forms over a lot of the space craft too, particularly present at edges and points it can hold on to.

And that momentum of the flag, definantly a vaccuum. You simply can't fake that in an air or liquid environment. Add to that, the way the flag folds, shows zero gravity too.

If you doubt it, get yourself a small flag, hold it out, and see which way it falls.

[TFG]

Of course its real.
Do any of you idiots think the Chinese could fake this in the face of Uncle Sam's satellite tracking technology?

All this sounds like Japanese Xenophobic bullshit, and coming from GAIJIN sounds even worse.

[Greji]

like Japanese Xenophobic bullshit, and coming from GAIJIN sounds even worse.

[Charles]

As for bits and pieces flying off... Most likely it's ice.

Impossible. Ice sublimates in a vacuum.

[Kagetsu]

It sure does, but it's not instant, and in confined area's the ratio of surface contact to mass decreases reducing the rate of sublimation. The launch was only five days ago, so moisture that was gathered between seals not exposed to vacuum would most likely have been frozen in due to the low temperatures. ^_^ On the surface of the space craft though, it's pretty likely that most of the ice had sublimated by that time. ^_^'

In any case, the 'debree' escaping from the hatch was more then enough proof that the footage was real... Even the best hollywood special effects aren't good enough to replicate that level of detail.

[kurohinge1]

As for bits and pieces flying off... Most likely it's ice.

Impossible. Ice sublimates in a vacuum.

Not impossible.

How do you explain the ice in comets?

Just because liquid water is not stable under about 0.006 atmospheres (meaning that ice will sublimate (go straight to gas) when changing form) does not mean that ice is an unstable form. It can exist in space, and does.

[AssKissinger]

The Rings of Saturn are made of ice. I don't know if they are actually in 'space' or within Saturn's atmosphere though. Maybe someone could riddle me that.

PS http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/en/kids/ice/index.shtml#

[Charles]

Not impossible.

How do you explain the ice in comets?

Just because liquid water is not stable under about 0.006 atmospheres (meaning that ice will sublimate (go straight to gas) when changing form) does not mean that ice is an unstable form. It can exist in space, and does.

OK, well this isn't a comet, and even a comet has massive outgassing from sublimation. But this is a little speck of "ice" and it should sublimate almost instantly. At the minimum it should show signs of vapors that would be visible on camera. I still remember seeing photos by Mercury astronauts of "Constellation Urion," taken during a urine dump into space, it froze instantly into little droplets that showed immediate signs of sublimation, with a wide gaseous haze like the coma of a comet. So I figure we would have seen that if it was ice. I still think it was regular old random debris floating away from inside the ship.

[AssKissinger]

[String]

All this sounds like Japanese Xenophobic bullshit, and coming from GAIJIN sounds even worse.

For my part I have no agenda and would be happy if it were true. It just looks fake.

It is sad, however, when that paragon of international moral sensibility (and champion of defeating generalizations?), the gaijin, does something so despicable.