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Milking the J-system

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Postby IkemenTommy » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:27 am

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Postby Kuang_Grade » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:03 am

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Postby Behan » Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:21 pm

Some people get children's JR tickets. Even though a light goes off, if it's crowded enough no one will notice or pay attention. The tickets are about half price of an adult one.
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Postby Iraira » Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:46 pm

Behan wrote:Some people get children's JR tickets. Even though a light goes off, if it's crowded enough no one will notice or pay attention. The tickets are about half price of an adult one.


Shit, I assumed that "child" meant my maturity level or my Japanese language ability, so I have been purchasing "kiddie" tix for years. Hoo hum.
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Postby havill » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:41 pm

Behan wrote:Some people get children's JR tickets. Even though a light goes off, if it's crowded enough no one will notice or pay attention. The tickets are about half price of an adult one.


Not just a light, but a loud "beep beep beep!" as well.
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Postby Behan » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:49 pm

Iraira wrote:Shit, I assumed that "child" meant my maturity level or my Japanese language ability, so I have been purchasing "kiddie" tix for years. Hoo hum.


You should have been getting them for a quarter of the price then.
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Postby wuchan » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:01 pm

the swap thing works with the suica cards. have two, go in with card A and hand the nice gent at the other end card B and tell him that you don't know why it didn't work at the other station.

If the station is extremely crowded: take out your wallet and tap it on the card reader while you go through, just make sure you are way too close to the person in front of you. The person behind you will get the red light and the doors will close on them. Just keep walking and don't look back.

Cheap vacation travel: JR visitor pass. If you are going to have a friend visit have them buy the 21 consecutive days pass for 57,700 Yen. when they go home you keep the pass for the remaining time left on it. Even better, if they don't plan to travel much, pay them for it and pick it up when they leave.
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Postby Behan » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:12 pm

That visitor pass could pay off if you did a lot of traveling.
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Postby American Oyaji » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:03 pm

wuchan wrote:Cheap vacation travel: JR visitor pass. If you are going to have a friend visit have them buy the 21 consecutive days pass for 57,700 Yen. when they go home you keep the pass for the remaining time left on it. Even better, if they don't plan to travel much, pay them for it and pick it up when they leave.


That won't work. I had one this summer and every time I went through a gate, it got checked against my passport.
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Postby Iraira » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:13 pm

Behan wrote:You should have been getting them for a quarter of the price then.
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I've been bitch slapped.:blush3:
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Postby wuchan » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:19 pm

American Oyaji wrote:That won't work. I had one this summer and every time I went through a gate, it got checked against my passport.

My mom came to visit last feb. I used her pass for 12 days after she left, even took the shinkansen to Osaka and back. Never once did anyone question me.

Did you use one around the time that they had all the trashcans covered because of the G8 summit?
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Postby IkemenTommy » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:57 am

wuchan wrote:Cheap vacation travel: JR visitor pass. If you are going to have a friend visit have them buy the 21 consecutive days pass for 57,700 Yen. when they go home you keep the pass for the remaining time left on it. Even better, if they don't plan to travel much, pay them for it and pick it up when they leave.

Yep, I once had my brother get me one while he was visiting. Never had to show passport. As long as you don't get red flagged by the station staff for getting a pass with a name like Walter Smith when you look like Mohammed Apu Kareem Jabbar, then you're alright.

It comes out to having to travel at least 3000 yen worth of train rides per day to get your money's worth, so what I did was make these "day trips" to no where like from Hiroshima to Hakata on the shinkansen for some ramen for lunch, sight-see around, have fresh sea food for dinner, and then take the last train back to Tokyo. I don't ever recommend that grueling leg back. Trust me, it sucked.

Since we're on the topic about the JR pass, I should also mention that you are technically not supposed to ride the Nozomi Expresses and limited only to the slow ass Hikaris and Kodamas. Who rides Hikaris to Kyoto and Osaka? My way of getting around that was to get on the unreserved section, where they rarely check your tickets, but when they do check just pretend you're asleep and most of the time, they'll just go by and not question you. If that fails and they still coerce you to wake up and show the pass--and thank god that has not happened to me yet-- just play stupid, you didn't know because you are a dumb gaijin on your first ever trip to Nippon the beautiful land in the Orient, tell them Gomennasai and some other typical travel book phrases any visiting gaijin would mention in desperation, and that you'll promise to get off at the next Nozomi stop 2 hours later.
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Postby Behan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:25 am

Iraira wrote:I've been bitch slapped.:blush3:


It hurt me more than it hurt you. :)

BTW, I was referring to your enviable maturity level not Japanese skills. I'd be a big hypocrite criticizing anyone for the latter.
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Postby omae mona » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:36 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:Yep, I once had my brother get me one while he was visiting. Never had to show passport. As long as you don't get red flagged by the station staff for getting a pass with a name like Walter Smith when you look like Mohammed Apu Kareem Jabbar, then you're alright.

It comes out to having to travel at least 3000 yen worth of train rides per day to get your money's worth, so what I did was make these "day trips" to no where like from Hiroshima to Hakata on the shinkansen for some ramen for lunch, sight-see around, have fresh sea food for dinner, and then take the last train back to Tokyo. I don't ever recommend that grueling leg back. Trust me, it sucked.


You are quite a gambler, IkemenTommy! If you rode the shinkansen out there for free, but by bad luck got flagged and asked for your passport on the way back, that would have been one heck of an expensive bowl of ramen. Glad it worked out, though :-)
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Postby Cyka UchuuJin » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:45 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:
Since we're on the topic about the JR pass, I should also mention that you are technically not supposed to ride the Nozomi Expresses and limited only to the slow ass Hikaris and Kodamas. Who rides Hikaris to Kyoto and Osaka?


most of the hikari trains only have about 3 more stops than the nozomi. it's still under 3 hours. kodama though, yeah, that one i can't see the logic in.
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Postby Mulboyne » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:30 pm

If you wear a suit, you've got a good chance of gatecrashing a lot of events held in the function rooms of major hotels. Unless you are out to satisfy a buffet addiction, however, there's not a lot to be gained from the practice.

Another variation is being at an event you are entitled to attend but being mistaken for someone else. I think I already mentioned on these forums how one conference assumed I was the British Ambassador. I didn't dissuade them because I was shown to a comfy seat with a nice plate of biscuits. However, for one horrible moment, I thought I was being called upon to make a speech but, happily, they all then looked at the bloke just along from me. He turned out to be Crown Prince Naruhito and he shook my hand when he finished speaking. I was tempted to ask someone to take a photograph of us together with a cheap digital camera I had in my pocket. I decided not to push my luck.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:35 am

Here is a ton of info on getting free rides and such (sorry in Japanese though)
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:44 am

Mulboyne wrote:I think I already mentioned on these forums how one conference assumed I was the British Ambassador.


Not heard that story before - classic!! I reckon you could pass for Ambassador material Mulby... :nihonjin:
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Postby ketchupkatsu » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:26 am

IkemenTommy wrote: My way of getting around that was to get on the unreserved section, where they rarely check your tickets, but when they do check just pretend you're asleep and most of the time, they'll just go by and not question you. If that fails and they still coerce you to wake up and show the pass--and thank god that has not happened to me yet-- just play stupid, you didn't know because you are a dumb gaijin on your first ever trip to Nippon the beautiful land in the Orient, tell them Gomennasai and some other typical travel book phrases any visiting gaijin would mention in desperation, and that you'll promise to get off at the next Nozomi stop 2 hours later.



Had some friends who tried doing that, and unfortunately the guy on the train could speak English rather well. He politely explained to them that the JR pass was not meant for travel on the Nozomi. He then asked them to wait/stand in the area between the cars until they reached Tokyo.

They claimed it was one of the longest 2 hours of their lives. And needless to say they took the Hikari back to Kyoto so they could at least have a seat.
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Postby Greji » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:10 am

GomiGirl wrote:Not heard that story before - classic!! I reckon you could pass for Ambassador material Mulby... :nihonjin:


You pretty loose with your compliments there Gomi. I got him as an Izuzu Dump Truck Driver.
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Postby sublight » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:38 pm

Way back when my girlfriend lived in Hamamatsu and I was a broke-ass FG in Tokyo, I used the "pair of one-stop tickets" trick all the time. One time, I didn't have a one-stop ticket from Hamamatsu, so I went over to the Shinkansen transfer gate and bought an "observation ticket" for 140yen. I went up to the platform, waited around for a train to come in, and then left through the main gate with the regular passengers.

So from Tokyo to Hamamatsu for 270yen.
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