No Heart-Land

[GuyJean]

.. What always surprised me about Heartland is how average and old the girls there were. If I were a trader making millions I'd be down the road in the Grace VIP section macking on 18 year old Russian models. OF course Heartland was actually where the back office went to get laid which probably explains it.

In it's hayday, HOD was the place to be; everyone was there and women outnumbered the men on some nights. I think it's mostly a sausage-fest now; haven't been in a long time.

Bankers still go out. I think they're just going to different places now. There are better choices than HOD these days..

Grace is ok. I assume you're talking about Fiera in the basement though. Grace is the whole building with bars on each floor. Maybe it's a case of YBF, but I have not seen one exotic/beautiful Russian model there. Mostly snobby little stick figure kids..

GJ

[Mike Oxlong]

And don't forget there are much more Japanese girls who know how to appreciate the finer things in life. They know the difference in brie and camembert...

Ah yes, they know their Yuki-rushi processed cheese slices from their Meiji from their Morinaga. Always have Kraft parmesan on hand in the fridge. Real Con o' sewers, that bunch!

[Captain Japan]

Forget the girls. Heartland beer is far more dangerous. It's poison.

[xenomorph42]

And don't forget there are much more Japanese girls who know how to appreciate the finer things in life. They know the difference in brie and camembert, they can tell prosciutto from bayonne or from ham. They know what Mont Blanc and when you order vongole in a restaurant they don't stare blankly at you. Japanese girls, generally, are a lot more fun to go out with, especially the experienced cougars. Compared that with the stupid white chicks or any other Asians for that matter who know nothing other than Gap or Banana Republic, I'll take the girls from Heartland in a heartbeat.

So, by your logic, generally speaking...White chicks know only Banana Republic and Gap, whereas Japanese chicks know Louis Vuitton, Prada, Versace, Merlot, Moet? I had no idea that sooo many Japanese women were experts when it comes to the finer things in life as well as overall social etiquette, please educate all of us Ace's. Of course, White women and other Asian women would never, could never know anything about fashion or culture or what it would be like to drink real coffee and not that instant freeze dried stuff.
And let's not forget, Japanese women are experts at color co-ordination as well, they can mix and match and never clash.
Yes, Japan, where the women are independent, always hard working, living by themselves, never putting a burden on their families, always marry for love and emotional support and confident and never rely on men for "anything."

Seriously, Jack...you must be "THE MOST" pussy-whipped dude, I have ever known and I know a lot of people. You need to get out more and smell some good air, I mean, really good air.

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

Forget the girls. Heartland beer is far more dangerous. It's poison.

I've always found it to be gut rot as well. Thought it was just me.

[GuyJean]

I've always found it to be gut rot as well. Thought it was just me.

It's why I stick to the Long Islands..

GJ

[Jack]

[quote="xenomorph42"]So, by your logic, generally speaking...White chicks know only Banana Republic and Gap, whereas Japanese chicks know Louis Vuitton, Prada, Versace, Merlot, Moet? I had no idea that sooo many Japanese women were experts when it comes to the finer things in life as well as overall social etiquette, please educate all of us Ace's. Of course, White women and other Asian women would never, could never know anything about fashion or culture or what it would be like to drink real coffee and not that instant freeze dried stuff.
And let's not forget, Japanese women are experts at color co-ordination as well, they can mix and match and never clash.
Yes, Japan, where the women are independent, always hard working, living by themselves, never putting a burden on their families, always marry for love and emotional support and confident and never rely on men for "anything."

Seriously, Jack...you must be "THE MOST" pussy-whipped dude, I have ever known and I know a lot of people. You need to get out more and smell some good air, I mean, really good air.]

You got it. Just stating facts here. Don't really care if you are offended and don't like hearing the truth. To be honest, I couldn't give a lesser fuck what you think. White chicks are unsophisticated trash with attitude.

[Greji]

To be honest, I couldn't give a lesser fuck what you think.

What a paradox!

[Iraira]

White chicks are unsophisticated trash with attitude.

They're still higher up on the evolutionary ladder than trolls.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

You got it. Just stating facts here. Don't really care if you are offended and don't like hearing the truth. To be honest, I couldn't give a lesser fuck what you think. White chicks are unsophisticated trash with attitude.

hmmm. i wonder where all these classy, sophisticated japanese girls learn about the finer things in life.

oh that's right, from watching western tv shows and movies and buying everything that they see scarlett johanssen/angelina jolie/cameron diaz/kate moss wearing/using/eating/drinking.

[wuchan]

hmmm. i wonder where all these classy, sophisticated japanese girls learn about the finer things in life.

oh that's right, from watching western tv shows and movies and buying everything that they see scarlett johanssen/angelina jolie/cameron diaz/kate moss wearing/using/eating/drinking.

Exactly. Jack must be from a poor town in the middle. Sure the white girls from the hood in my city had no clue what fine wine is but they ALL had prada bags. Jack wouldn't have a clue what to do in a east coast city club where the girls wear $700 hats and cart around $5,000 guchi bags (fakes get hated on to the point that 90% us townies can spot them 200 feet away). I have yet to see a japanese girl with a wardrobe that compares to the white chicks back home.

for some reason jack conjures up thoughts of charisma man.

[IkemenTommy]

Forget the girls. Heartland beer is far more dangerous. It's poison.

The problem I have with all these Heartland bars and their offshoots in the Roppongi area is the shallow women. They are usually the late 30s and 40s babahs with no insight on life.

They snobbishly sip on their cassis soda or whatever targeting their gaijin prey. After a few drinks and you wear a beer goggle getting past their old ages, you try to start a conversation with them but before they ask you your name or interests, like in any kind of conversation opener, they will ask you what you do for a living, what company you work for, how much you earn, etc. Only if they had half the personality and some human quality to them, they would have gotten married ages ago. They congregate in the "Hi touch town" for a reason. No one wants to get hitched with these gold diggers.

[GomiGirl]

They know the difference in brie and camembert,

Is that the green or the yellow dick cheese?

(note to self - do not post while drunk sitting next to Silly Girl - also full of piss and bad manners. We just scared some poor chap in Lawsons who now has wank fodder for the next three months. ):kanpai:

[IkemenTommy]

Is that the green or the yellow dick cheese?

Ewww, what's that?

Is that sort of like an yeast infection?

[Cyka UchuuJin]

Is that the green or the yellow dick cheese?

(note to self - do not post while drunk sitting next to Silly Girl - also full of piss and bad manners. We just scared some poor chap in Lawsons who now has wank fodder for the next three months. ):kanpai:

bwahahahahaha, i wanna partake!!!

[GuyJean]

Ewww, what's that? Is that sort of like a yeast infection?

Yes. And, according to Jack, only Japanese women can appreciate the subtle differences..

GJ

[kamome]

Aw man, Heart of Darkness beer (swill). What a memory!

[xenomorph42]

You got it. Just stating facts here. Don't really care if you are offended and don't like hearing the truth. To be honest, I couldn't give a lesser fuck what you think. White chicks are unsophisticated trash with attitude.

Jack, I think that you suffer from self-loath, guilt, lack of self-esteem, spineless, gutless and wished at some point in your life you could have been born Japanese(or a Japanese chick)again, you don't like White women fine! But to say "White chicks are unsophisticated" is NOT factual, but opinionated. But fine, Mr. smart man (loosely putting it) how about a challenge? If you can show me some evidence that White women are unsophisticated and have no class and are trash, NOT opinions, show me some stats, some proof that correlates with what you are implying. If so, I will apologize to you and hold my trap. How about it? Are you man enough Jack or are just a jerk or just all talk as usual with no backbone, come on Jack, what do you say?

[Samurai_Jerk]

Grace is ok. I assume you're talking about Fiera in the basement though. Grace is the whole building with bars on each floor. Maybe it's a case of YBF, but I have not seen one exotic/beautiful Russian model there. Mostly snobby little stick figure kids.

To tell the truth, everytime I've rolled into Grace I've been so far gone I wouldn't trust anything I say about the place. I stick by my Heartland comment though.

[Phantom]

Forget the girls. Heartland beer is far more dangerous. It's poison.

Heartland beer is horse piss. God damn, its terrible.

As for the women, I almost feel pity for them, almost. Many of those traders seriously need an unsolicited ass fisting, although they are such douches that they'd probably enjoy it.

[Mike Oxlong]

A pal and I were speculating that a high percentage of izakaya type joints use happoshu in place of draft beer, to up their profit margin. Low likelyhood of getting caught, boost profit per glass. Maybe this HOD place is no different, though I kinda figured "high class" joints may not do so, to protect their rep...

[wuchan]

A pal and I were speculating that a high percentage of izakaya type joints use happoshu in place of draft beer, to up their profit margin. Low likelyhood of getting caught, boost profit per glass. Maybe this HOD place is no different, though I kinda figured "high class" joints may not do so, to protect their rep...

or they never clean their lines.......... which can breed worms among other parasites. Yummmmm.. worms.

[Doctor Stop]

Kirin Heartland is a pretty good beer, as Japanese lagers go. HOD served it in bottles.

Worms are just another way to say extra protein.

[Buraku]

Japanese say goodbye to Western playboys

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5139220.ece

The party is over for the cash-flashing traders who once propped up Tokyo's Heartland bar - and for the Japanese women hoping to bag themselves a banker

[Mulboyne]

Record China, a Chinese news site in Japanese, picks up on this article and includes some pictures to illustrate the story, giving the impression that they appeared in the Times. I could be wrong, but they don't look much like Heartland.

[kurohinge1]

Record China, a Chinese news site in Japanese, picks up on this article and includes some pictures to illustrate the story, giving the impression that they appeared in the Times. I could be wrong, but they don't look much like Heartland.

I think you're right, even though I've never been there. The photos have all the hallmarks of fakes - close shots, trying to hide the real surrounds/background, etc.

The ironic thing is that those posed photos probably make the Heartland clientele look good.

[Greji]

[quote="kurohinge1"]
The ironic thing is that those posed photos probably make the Heartland clientele look good.

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Your're right on Kuro. The good stuff has moved on and not a lot of class remaining, however, if one is not too choosy, stragglers can still be nailed by using the old "new banker in town" line.

[Dragonette]

I think you're right, even though I've never been there. The photos have all the hallmarks of fakes - close shots, trying to hide the real surrounds/background, etc.

No ganimata or daikon ashi there either. They definitely look like Chinese legs to me...

[prolly]

the united states east coast version: http://jezebel.com/5098067/girly-golddiggers-are-reeling-from-the-recession

but here's something that could apply equally to both japan and elsewhere:
"What's weird is that none of the women seem prepared to rearrange their social lives: they'd rather vie with more competition at the same pricey bars each weekend than maybe take up a hobby or date the way the rest of us do."

[cot faulking]

I buy the beer and don't bother drinking it. Not complaining about having to pay 500 yen for horse piss. But if I had to drink it then that would be a different story.