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Postby Bucky » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:52 am

i'm planning to move to hawaii next july with my japanese wife and japanese stepson (from her previous marriage). i currently live in japan and have been here for about 5 years teaching english. to be clear (since everyone asks), i am not affiliated with the military at all.

i'm pretty concerned about the move for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the horrible economy. i'm also worried though because my only real employable skills are that i've been basically an esl teacher (without a license-not needed to teach english in japan) for 5 years and can speak japanese (i'm taking the highest level of the japanese proficiency exam before we move). i also have a bachelor's in philosophy degree.

i always hear that people with japanese ability can find easy work in hawaii, but my guess has always been that this is mainly in the tourism fields, and with the world economy doing worse and worse AND new restrictions having been placed on japanese tourists going to america, i'm worried that if most of the japanese-required jobs really ARE related to tourism, my japanse ability won't get me very far after all. so i guess i'm really asking if my japanese will still be considered an employable skill, and if so, what kind of jobs might i look into with it having a lack of other employable skills.

my wife also speaks english and is really outgoing and bright, so i'm sure she'll be able to find work easily (she'll have a green card), but probably nothing to "bring home the bacon" since she doesn't have a college degree.

we've considered moving other places, but because of her and my stepson's cold-induced asthma, cold places are out (like colorado, where i'm originally from). so hawaii, with its yearly warm climate and huge number of japanese and japanese-americans, seems ideal in some respects. further, neither of us has ever been into the fast-paced, move up the corporate latter kind of lifestyle, so a laid-back place like hawaii seems like a perfect fit. plus, we're both pretty thrifty to begin with and like getting stuff second-hand whenever we can, so we don't lead very affluent lifestyles.

and people always tell me that hawaii is expensive to live in, and i believe them, but japan is also incredibly expensive a lot of the time, not to mention the incredible waste of money spent staying warm in the winter in a country with no insulation in the walls that i won't have to worry about in hawaii. but i digress... oh, also, we'll be bringing about $50K in cash (well, in the bank; not $50K on the actual plane!) with us when we go, which we're assuming would help us get by at first. also, i'll be 29 and she'll be 31 when we move. our son will be 7.

anyway, any advice or help would be appreciated. we know it's gonna be tough and that it's a bad time to be moving to an already-expensive place, but we don't really have much choice (other than to stay here, which neither of us wants to do). also, we're planning on oahu, but after what i've written, if anyone has suggestions for other places, feel free to tell me. thanks!

--jeff

Perhaps he should be over here getting advice.

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Postby Big Booger » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:04 am

Hawaii is fine for a visit, but fuck living there. Sounds like he's a truly fucked soon-to-be-ex-fucked-gaijin.
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Postby Iraira » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:41 pm

Why would anyone who believes that Japan is overpriced want to live in Hawaii? That place, particularly Honolulu, Lahaina, and any of the plantation hotels on Kauai are priced for J-tourists to get fleeced.
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Postby Whoa! » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:18 pm

I've lived here for 19 years, 12 with my Japanese wife. This is not the land of opportunity for Japanese transplants (or for mainland transplants either).

Unless you can start a lucrative small business or get a mid to top level job, you will find Hawaii tougher in many instances. There are very few jobs for Nihonjin that pay much more than a barely living wage.

Employers feed off a constant supply of Japanese who come to live the dream, many on student visas. These folks are willing to accept almost any wage just to have a job. Most leave here broke with a nice tan.

Believe it or not, in many ways Hawaii is much more expensive than even Tokyo. Last time I was in Japan, a Big Mac setto was more than a buck less there than here.

I'd wish the guy luck, but advise him not to come unless he or the wife can nail down lucrative jobs first.
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Postby Greji » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:08 pm

Whoa! wrote:but advise him not to come unless he or the wife can nail down lucrative jobs first.


Don't know, maybe his Mrs does demae...If she does, they could probably live nicely.
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Postby MeinJapanLongTime » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:59 pm

Guam might be a better choice. While there's lots of problems with the island, $50K can get you started. They need good teachers BADLY!!!

Of course, they would have problems paying you...

Lots of Japanese tourists--even a Japanese school (K-9) on island.

Something to consider.

Taxes are ...well, you may never get your tax return there...
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Postby Hawaiibadboy » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:24 am

Your lucky!!! I can't wait to get back home!! If you need any advice.PM me
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Postby TennoChinko » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:48 pm

:shroom: http://hawaii.jobs.com/
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