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EU Wants Japan To Buy European Trains

Postby Mulboyne » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:42 pm

[floatl]Image[/floatl]AFP: EU Asks Japan To Open Up Rail Industry
France and the European Union called Friday on Japan to open up to foreign railway companies, saying Japanese firms were already allowed to do business in Europe. "We need reciprocity in the rail sector," French Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau said in Tokyo, where he was taking part in a conference on global warming. Japan's Shinkansen and France's TGV are among the fastest in the world, and both countries have aggressively marketed their industries overseas. Bussereau said that he and the E.U. transport commissioner, Antonio Tajani, urged in meetings in Tokyo that "the Japanese rail market not be closed to European industry at a moment when Europe is opening to Japan...There are already high-speed Japanese trains in Spain and recently, a British company bought Japanese rail carriages for the Eurostar to serve ... London, in particular the future Olympic station," Bussereau said. But he complained that France's Alstom, Germany's Siemens (SI) and the European arm of Canada's Bombardier were "almost absent on the Japanese market." He doubted Japan's explanation, presented to the World Trade Organization, that the absence was due to security standards on critical equipment. "Some people think that there is a bit of a broad interpretation of what is critical," Bussereau said...more...
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Postby Buraku » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:37 pm

Ware Ware

not gonna work the EU is trying where the US has failed for years

They will learn the hard way the Japanese politicians are stubborn cunts
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Postby wuchan » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:44 pm

To many Japanese women being international is carrying a Louis Vuitton bag and drinking Budweiser.
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I always found it funny that j-girls like it but american chicks call it budwater.

[bud is made from RICE!!!!!]

This is japan, they love monopolies. The lifetime employment system would never have worked without them. Too bad they banned that kind of stuff.............. until a few years ago.
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Postby Tsuru » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:33 am

As long as China and Korea keep buying them I really couldn't care less if Japan doesn't buy our TGVs and Maglevs.
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:44 am

Alstom was complaining recently that they felt that China was stealing their rail tech and encroaching on their markets while keeping their market shut as well and this may be an additional warning to Japan they have much to lose as well if the market starts to become protectionist.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d7d9a190-d86e-11dd-bcc0-000077b07658.html


The issues are all the more acute because many European governments are investing heavily in their railways, for environmental reasons and to boost battered economies.
Europe's big three builders are unwilling to see orders for trains go to markets where they cannot export products back.

China's position gives particular grounds for concern because of suspicion many of its builders' designs draw heavily on technology transferred from Europe, North America or Japan.

Some appear to be using that technology to compete with those suppliers' home markets.
It seems likely there will be few further opportunities for outsiders to participate in the investment of at least $180bn in railways under way during China's 2006-10 five-year plan.

Mr Mellier says that, after designs are bought from Hitachi or Kawasaki of Japan - both of whom have supplied technology used in Japanese Shinkansen trains to China - or Bombardier, the technology is "made Chinese".

"They will use them, adapt them, aggregate them to [form] a Chinese technology based on foreign technology being leased by them," he says. "I sincerely believe that all the many tenders for rolling stock and signalling will be for Chinese companies and the access for non-Chinese companies will be kept to a bare minimum."
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Postby sublight » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:05 am

"Some people think that there is a bit of a broad interpretation of what is critical," Bussereau said


Wheels, for instance.
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