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Iris Chang's Mother

Postby Mulboyne » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:27 am

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Cleveland.com: Iris Chang's mother dedicates self to daughter's vision of documenting Japanese Rape of Nanking
To the world, Iris Chang seemed to have everything. She was young, beautiful, the mother of a 2-year-old son, a best-selling author whose book on the Rape of Nanking and Japanese atrocities in China catapulted her to fame. She was widely hailed as a hero by fellow ethnic Chinese, both here and abroad. But one night in November 2004, the 36-year-old Chang, who had been quietly struggling with depression, left her husband asleep in their San Jose home and drove her car to a lonely private road south of Los Gatos. She put a gun in her mouth and pulled the trigger. It took more than a year before her mother, Ying-Ying Chang, could talk about her daughter without crying. When the emotional blackness and numbness began to fade about a year and a half after her daughter's death, Chang began asking herself what she wanted to do with the rest of her life. She decided the best way to cope was to finish her daughter's work: trying to persuade the Japanese government to apologize for the wartime conduct of its troops and pay victims compensation -- and educating young people about the "Forgotten Holocaust"...more...

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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:00 pm

To be unwilling but to give in, if the death toll of so-called "Nanking Massacre" was really 300,000, that number is pretty few, compared with other atrocities carried out by you Westerners in other area of the world at that age. And in my personal opinion, Empire Japan should had killed 2~3 million Chinese in Nanjin. If so, this issue would be settled a long time ago. In a word, halfwayness of Empire Japan is the reason why this issue still remain unsettled.
I really think so.
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Postby Kaiju » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:23 pm

@Takechanpoo: Your incoherent gibberish is barely intelligible. I recommend that you locate a nice "Gaikoku-Jin" and ask him to tutor you in English. After that you might read a few history books and educate yourself on the matters which you attempt to comment on. Gambatte ne! Ashikarazu.
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Postby Greji » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:44 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:you Westerners


"you Westerners"? You trying to tell us something Take?
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Postby rooboy » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:41 pm

Trouble is too - some of the slaughter was done by Chinese nationalists of the right wing side. You know those nice bastards who went off to make Taiwan their little psuedo empire.

Of course the Japanese did so many evil fucking things at Nanjing and their bullshit denials just make them look like wankers in denial. But theres a point about the Chinese who aided the Japanese and more needs to be looked at there.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:08 pm

rooboy wrote:Trouble is too - some of the slaughter was done by Chinese nationalists of the right wing side. You know those nice bastards who went off to make Taiwan their little psuedo empire.

Of course the Japanese did so many evil fucking things at Nanjing and their bullshit denials just make them look like wankers in denial. But theres a point about the Chinese who aided the Japanese and more needs to be looked at there.


There are also aparently issues with and doubts about some of the evidence and methods Chang used in researching TRNK. I think what she put in the book was true overall, but I also think that her personal feelings and agenda probably prevented her from looking at things objectively and made her ready to believe anything she was told regardless of how thin the evidence was. I've read it and the tone is definitely not balanced which I don't have a problem with in and of itself. However it could be problematic if you're looking for an objective scholarly work and not an editorial. What's infuriating are the Japan apologists who want to dismiss the whole thing as fiction because some parts might be exaggerated or nothing more than annecdotal evidence.
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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:55 pm

Iris Chang should have at least showed the world her tits before she offed herself. What a waste.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:15 pm

Both Iris and this mother are official agents authorized and supported by C-government. And from the beginning, these bitches know most content of "Rape of Nankin" is fiction, needless to say.
Chinese tell a lie like breathing and do it intentionally, especially about Japanese related things.
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:40 am

Takechanpoo wrote: . And from the beginning, these bitches know .


Ever stuck your little J-pecker in some China Vagina? You'll cum faster than you can call the Chinaman your rightful master. China rules Asia but America rules the world. Get on your knees and suck it, faggot.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:51 am

AssKissinger wrote:Ever stuck your little J-pecker in some China Vagina? You'll cum faster than you can call the Chinaman your rightful master. China rules Asia but America rules the world. Get on your knees and suck it, faggot.


Seconded!

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-whatever the deficiencies/inaccuracies of The Rape of Nanking, Iris Chang was intelligent, passionate, and extraordinarily sexy (kind of how I picture Masako-sama - and I do picture her).
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:36 am

the huge difference between Japan's actions in Nanking versus the nazis against the Jews and the Russians, is that the Germany, repeatedly, has acknowledged these attrocities and appoligized. We get it, it was a shitty war and people did shit like that back then, but to call China liars and deny the the thing even occured is what really pisses the world off. It would be like America denying we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We are not proud we did that but America has appologized. But then again, why would America deny that it has the ability to turn a city in to a wasteland with just one weapon.
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:16 am

the huge difference between Japan's actions in Nanking versus the nazis against the Jews and the Russians, is that the Germany, repeatedly,


It's also tens of thousands versus millions.

We are not proud we did that but America has appologized


Most Americans are proud of it and we never did and never will apologize, nor should we.
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:18 am

nottu wrote:When did that happen?


Oh, shit, your right, America didn't, but i think you can agree that it has done a lot of things to make up for it, such as keeping Communism out.
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:31 am

BO-SENSEI wrote:Oh, shit, your right, America didn't, but i think you can agree that it has done a lot of things to make up for it, such as keeping Communism out.


Yeah, that was really altruistic. :rolleyes:
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:54 am

Since when do countries do shit for altruistic motives. I would think that Honda, Mitsubishi, Sony and countless others would agree with that keeping communism out was a good thing.

I guess you could say that there are parrallels to the actions of the Japanese in Nanking and the action of Americans in Vietnam. who knows how many innocent people Americans killed or raped in the country side of Vietnam.

But there are two major differences between those attrocities. Americans are well aware we did those things, secondly, those things were carried out by low level soldiers acting on there own. IIRC, the Japanese military order the soldiers to commit those acts. Now I could be completly wrong about the previous things I said, but then again, that wouldn't be the first time now would it.
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Postby Greji » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:16 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:I guess you could say that there are parrallels to the actions of the Japanese in Nanking and the action of Americans in Vietnam. who knows how many innocent people Americans killed or raped in the country side of Vietnam.


Where the fuck do you get this "parallel"? How long were you in Vietnam?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:30 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:the huge difference between Japan's actions in Nanking versus the nazis against the Jews and the Russians, is that the Germany, repeatedly, has acknowledged these attrocities and appoligized. We get it, it was a shitty war and people did shit like that back then, but to call China liars and deny the the thing even occured is what really pisses the world off. It would be like America denying we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We are not proud we did that but America has appologized. But then again, why would America deny that it has the ability to turn a city in to a wasteland with just one weapon.


Why the fuck would America apologize for defeating an agressor nation that was a threat to the World and bringing the most destructive war in history to an end?
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:50 pm

Greji wrote:Where the fuck do you get this "parallel"? How long were you in Vietnam?
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The aftermath of going to a university when the history professors are ex-hippies.

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Why the fuck would America apologize for defeating an agressor nation that was a threat to the World and bringing the most destructive war in history to an end?

and where the fuck did i say that? all I said, and yeah, I was wrong, America never apologized for using nuclear weapons and doesn't need to, but it has done a lot to make up for using nuclear weapons.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:53 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:the huge difference between Japan's actions in Nanking versus the nazis against the Jews and the Russians, is that the Germany, repeatedly, has acknowledged these attrocities and appoligized. We get it, it was a shitty war and people did shit like that back then, but to call China liars and deny the the thing even occured is what really pisses the world off. It would be like America denying we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Hey boy, you are typical a "nice guy" who is very an easy mark for China or Korea who ACTUALLY tell a lie like breathing. And you should not speak about Northeast asian history as if you understand all of it by only reading wikipedia's informations.
So-called "Great Nanjin Massacre" never happened. What happened in Nanjin is nothing but one of "small" atrocities which Empire Japan carried out all over China. Why must Japan apologize to something never happened? Eh? After all so-called "Great Nanjin Massacre" is a joint work by China and America to pin down Japan politically and (in addition for America) to water down the feelings of guilt of Atomic bombing or justify it.
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:39 pm

And you should not speak about Northeast asian history as if you understand all of it by only reading Japan's white washed history text books.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:08 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:The aftermath of going to a university when the history professors are ex-hippies.

So, you've adopted their views without developing your own...?:roll:
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:17 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:So, you've adopted their views without developing your own...?:roll:


Short Answer: No I never abopted their views.

You try taking a rightist stance in a liberal university, or this forum for that matter, and tell me how it works out?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:00 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:and where the fuck did i say that? all I said, and yeah, I was wrong, America never apologized for using nuclear weapons and doesn't need to, but it has done a lot to make up for using nuclear weapons.



We are not proud we did that but America has appologized
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Postby baka tono » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:41 pm

Japanese war vet talks about experiences in China
http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=9711

Everyone got treated like shit including the Japanese soldiers by their own commanders.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:13 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:And you should not speak about Northeast asian history as if you understand all of it by only reading Japan's white washed history text books.

You really seem to be a "nice guy", boy.
China side ever have not researched "Great Nanjin Massacre" objectively or never have allowed domestic researchers to do it. Meanwhile Japan side have researched objectively about so-called "Great Nanjin Massacre". And ironically even extreme right wingers are far objective, compared with China side.
Remember that Englishnized informations about Northeast asian history are so limited, especially one written from Japanese standpoint due to poor English skill of Japanese. So you should not think you understand even if you read all of englishnized Northeast asian history.
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:59 pm

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:06 pm

I agree that people who disagree with BO-SENSEI probably never went to college which of course implies they are dumb :roll:
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Postby rooboy » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:36 pm

Good point too about Irish Chang's biases - she ended up putting a photo or maybe two in the book that was a fucking forgery. Doesnt do much for cred when you don't do your research on your photos authenticity.

But I can't stand the thick wanker Japanese who runs around saying it was 'impossible' for the Japanese soldiers to be preparing a massacre cos their diaries show they were doing usual stuff etc. This cunt maybe is a two yen 'lecturer' at some J university.

If he really believes that he's just one of the biggest cunts ever in academia. Nup, the soldiers werent too busy because when arseholes run amok like that they get the poor bastards they terrorised to make the preparations at gunpoint and then to clean up afterwards, including digging graves. Evil cunts.
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