Simon Wiesenthal Center Protests Anti-Semitic Nikkei Ad

[Mulboyne]

[IkemenTommy]

[floatr]Japan Today: Jewish human rights group protests 'anti-Semitic' ad in Nihon Keizai Shimbun[/URL]
The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Los Angeles-based human rights group, on Monday issued a protest to the Nihon Keizai Shimbun-sha over an advertisement appearing in the Aug 2 edition of its Tokyo edition that it alleges to be anti-Semitic.

Doesn't Simon Wiesenthal have anything better to do? And as usual, JT, was the only dumb ass publication that jumped on this minor bickering that no one seem to really care. Good job

[Behan]

He died back in 2005.

Noone's asking me but I actually heard him speak about catching Nazis once.

[IkemenTommy]

He died back in 2005.

I guess his legacy lives on.. or whatever.
This protest stinks more than a daikon fart. Let them protest in Los Angeles with signs and banners. I'm sure Nikkei doesn't give a shit either.

[thumper]

I guess his legacy lives on.. or whatever.
This protest stinks more than a daikon fart. Let them protest in Los Angeles with signs and banners. I'm sure Nikkei doesn't give a shit either.

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I agree. The SWC is a discredited organization.

[Coligny]

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I agree. The SWC is a discredited organization.

As usual... at first they had honest goals... then they became a business...

[Greji]

Doesn't Simon Wiesenthal have anything better to do? And as usual, JT, was the only dumb ass publication that jumped on this minor bickering that no one seem to really care. Good job

I don't know if I can agree with you on this Tommy. The J-community has never been very high on Israel and Jews in general. My own belief is that it was begun with propaganda being pumped out during Japan's alignment with the Axis powers during WWII. After the war, when the truth about the holocaust came out, the J-people and their media ducked their heads and generally stayed pretty low when it came to anything that could be construed as anti-semitic. I further believe that this is why they love to play up the role of Chiune Sugihara, the diplomat in Lithuania and his issuing escape visas to Jews fleeing the Naxis. The so-called "Sugihara's List." Although he didn't help that many in total numbers, he is the only story in town for them on this issue. I really feel that they are afraid they could be tied into the Holocaust with their role as Germany's partner, if this was ever to be pressed as a valid wartime issue against Japan.

At any rate, every once in awhile some publication will come out like this and again, in my opinion, needs to be slapped down. It is possible with perceived coldness that the Obama Crowd is showing toward Israel, some of the sideline observers elsewhere (i.e. Japan), will take this as evidence they are free to once again bash Israel and the Jews whenever the urge strikes them. I don't think they should be allowed to do that across the board. Take handles that well enough for them and should be appointed head trasher for that topic!

[xenomorph42]

Doesn't Simon Wiesenthal have anything better to do? And as usual, JT, was the only dumb ass publication that jumped on this minor bickering that no one seem to really care. Good job

I'm calling Al Sharpton and BTW where is Jessie Jackson when you need him!
It's on now!

[kagemusha]

Doesn't Simon Wiesenthal have anything better to do? And as usual, JT, was the only dumb ass publication that jumped on this minor bickering that no one seem to really care. Good job

Sorry my friend but 'no one seem to care' is a miserable approach. I do care and I'm sure other too.
One thing I have learned living as a FG in Japan is how dangerous can a prejudice be. You tend to ignore these idiots as long as it doesn't concern you but when it does you really really don't like it, look at all the threads here about the stupid ideas some Japanese have regarding us FGs. This is no different than when family-mart sells magazines describing all FGs as dangerous criminals - it is stupid and ridiculous but there is always some idiots who listen to this crap and on occasions hurt someone who just doesn't have black hair and doesn't like natto or stupid TV shows.
I don't know much about this American organization and can't tell if you are right about them but this is besides the point. I don't like when people are being attacked for being black, jews, gaijin, muslims, japanese etc. and I don't have to be a part of any of those groups to feel like this. It might not be my problem today but it can return and bite my ass tomorrow.
Cheers

[Dragonette]

The J-community has never been very high on Israel and Jews in general. My own belief is that it was begun with propaganda being pumped out during Japan's alignment with the Axis powers during WWII.

Agreed!
It's one thing to be distainful of some group because of something you may personally dislike but is at least nominally true: "they have slanty eyes" "they're soo dark" "they smell like garlic (or butter or curry or boiled cabbage)" "they pee in the street" "they drink too much", etc.

It's something else when a weird conspiracy theory that sounds like it came right out of Mein Kampf is still popular there some 70-odd years later.

Another J-theory I've heard is that the the Jewish global economic takover is actually headed by the Rockerfeller family. If you point out to the J-folk going on about this that the Rockerfellers are not even Jewish, they'll tell you that they are indeed, they just keep it a secret. Ask why they would want to do that, and they just smile knowingly and give you that "poor ignorant gaijin" look.

I'm sure that the honorable Poo-san has the inside story on all this, though...

[Behan]

One of my eikaiwa students once told me she was going to hear a lecture on international Jewish conspiracies. And then she added 'It's true.' She was a psycho and was in the process of moving to Hawaii. Poor Hawaii.

[nottu]

[American Oyaji]

I guess his legacy lives on.. or whatever.
This protest stinks more than a daikon fart. Let them protest in Los Angeles with signs and banners. I'm sure Nikkei doesn't give a shit either.

Sorry Tommy,

Can't agree with you on this. I care quite a bit and am appalled about this.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Whose truth? History is a story told by a story teller.

Yeah, I'm sure it's all made up. The Germans did nothing to the jews.

[nottu]

[Samurai_Jerk]

What does the Japanese conspiracy theorist and Nikkei advertising have anything to do with what the Germans did to the Jews.
Typical knee-jerk stupid response.

Let's see, Greji wrote, "After the war, when the truth about the holocaust came out", and you responded "Whose truth? History is a story told by a story teller".

Typically stupid response from nottu.

[nottu]

[Greji]

Geiji could have gone on about the holocost of Catholics or the millions of Russians that died at the hands of Communists, or the necessity of the atomic bomb to end the war with Japan or etc., etc ....... whatever story. He just happend to pull that one up in relation to the consiparcy theorist.

Actually, this came up thousands of years ago, when I was doing some research on a Command and Staff College paper on WWII, specifically the lead in to Pearl Harbor and the intel collections for the operation.

I noticed a wealth of references to Axis connections/operations between Germany and Japan that all went up to a certain point before and even during the war. On the other hand Japanese references to the same information were almost non-existent. The bible on this period (rightly, or wrongly) is "The world reacts to the Holocaust" By David S. Wyman, with Charles H. Rosenzveig, but for reasons known only to the authors, in their section of Japan before and after the Holocaust, while acknowledging the very severe anti-Semitic faction of the J-Army, specifically leaders in Manchuko, they spend most of the time discussing what went well for the Jews, or at least what good intentions were espoused by the Japanese government. They even make notice in their notes that a written work about this topic is seriously lacking from history.

So, I have always been intrigued by this "missing link," or holes if you will, in the WWII story, but that's me. Other people may interpret the silence differently. Other people don't like goats.

[Coligny]

So, I have always been intrigued by this "missing link," or holes if you will, in the WWII story, but that's me. Other people may interpret the silence differently. Other people don't like goats.

Maybe i'm taking big shortcuts here... But in WWII, for japanese people, the main question about jewish people might have been... "what's a Jew ?". That would explain a lot. Since people answering this question were their german friends... Nothing good could come up...
There is always a huge trouble of putting things back in context for these historical events. Back in the 1920. French people didn't like the jews either (cf "affair Dreyfus") Petain was hating Jews as much as franc-macons (freemason) and it was a time where n1gg3r was a word like any-other, not an insult. Putting this back in the mind of people who live in the middle of unicorns shitting rainbows is kinda hard.

WW2 still have a lot of balckholes, some are manipulative, some are... just here. For example I discovered not long ago that japanese aircraftcarrier-submarines where present in Lorient among Denitz wolfpack with officer on longstay in France (2-3 years). I am quite close to these subject (former history student) but never heard of this. The data came from a japanese friend(*) whose father was one of the officer staying in France. Finding more data about this is... quite hard...

(*)yeah... I do have (a) friend...
(*)yeah... japanese one...
(*)but... he's a police officer... please don't ban me from the forum.

[IkemenTommy]

Actually, this came up thousands of years ago, when I was doing some research on a Command and Staff College paper on WWII, specifically the lead in to Pearl Harbor and the intel collections for the operation.

They had paper back then?

[Doctor Stop]

They had paper back then?

You know Greji, it had to be written on genuine goat skin parchment.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

oh come on, the japanese are not anti-semitic...they hate all non-japanese people, cultures, and religions equally.

[FG Lurker]

they hate all non-japanese people, cultures, and religions equally.

Hardly. There is a definite ranking. Koreans, Chinese, South/South-East Asians top the list. Next are probably Russians and Americans. Everyone else follows somewhere down the list.

[Greji]

oh come on, the japanese are not anti-semitic...they hate all non-japanese people, cultures, and religions equally.

Right and their section for handling Russians is headquartered at KIX....

[Cyka UchuuJin]

Right and their section for handling Russians is headquartered at KIX....

hehehe i must admit, they didn't bat an eyelash this last time. i guess having the scandinavian with me who gave them 'the look' of impatience when they started frowning at my passport helped.

FG lurker...it was mild sarcasm. i usually tell people that when anyone calls me a racist. 'i'm not racist, i hate everyone equally'.

[IkemenTommy]

Right and their section for handling Russians is headquartered at KIX....

Speaking of the Japanese hating Russians...

[HWP]

Yes, I agree. They really hate Jews up in Hokkiado even more. I found this at The JAL City Hotel in Hakodate.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Geiji could have gone on about the holocost of Catholics or the millions of Russians that died at the hands of Communists, or the necessity of the atomic bomb to end the war with Japan or etc., etc ....... whatever story. He just happend to pull that one up in relation to the consiparcy theorist.
You, on the other hand, come through with the made for TV response. But that's okay - after Japan wears you out you can go back to LA and work for Wikipedia.

Focus, man.

I always thought you were a little off, but that rambling bullshit above just verified it.

I have no idea why Greji would bring up the holocaust of the Jews in a thread about the Simon Wiesenthal Center and anti-Semitism in Japan. He ought to stick to the topic.

And speaking of made for TV reponses, "knee-jerk reaction" and "made for TV response" are two great examples.

[Takechanpoo]

As Kazakhstani woman(would-be Russian) said, actually Japanese hate all non-Japanese people, especially Korean, Chinese, Russian and Aussie.
But they extraordinarily tolerate non-Japanese cultures(except Korean).
We hate people, not culture.

And needless to say, Jews are cancer of the earth.

[nottu]