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Postby Osakadave » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:46 am

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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:01 pm

Well, shit, if you can't agree that Christians are self-righteous and self-absorbed fucks then you must think the sky is green.
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:10 pm

Isn't 'self-righteousness' a requirement of organized religion?

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:12 pm

AssKissinger wrote:Well, shit, if you can't agree that Christians are self-righteous and self-absorbed fucks then you must think the sky is green.


Yeah, but it's hard to give Ozawa a thumbs up when he says shit like this:

(Islam) is better than Christianity but it is also exclusive.


and this:

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Postby American Oyaji » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:48 pm

How much you want to bet he's into Soka Gakkai?
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Postby IkemenTommy » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:53 pm

I was thinking of Maria Ozawa...
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Postby Uthark_Runa » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:07 pm

Funny stuff, coming from the country of pick-n-chose the religion of your choice depending on the situation. Yay lets have Christmas....hmm time for New Year and trip to the temple...death in the fam....Buddhist monks here we come. It doesn't matter what you claim do what you want, seems like a good idea most of us should adopt maybe...

Anyway bashing religion is getting old. I really could give a shit about what religion people have faith in, or lack there of. It really is the easy way out to put someone down. 99% of people just want something to believe in, and are peaceful about their practice. Every group has there self-righteous bastards, and extremists, when will we ever stop blanketing whole groups of people by the actions of few? Human nature I guess

Btw whats with the bad image if SGI. I am not member, but I know quite a few, and I don't really see what the big deal is with them. I know they are pretty big here, and have some political influence, but the people I know including some family members, are not all brainwashed cultists. They act and practice like any religious person I know.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:28 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:I was thinking of Maria Ozawa...


:rofl:

Now, that's an Ozawa whose religion I could follow....

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Postby Ketou » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:34 pm

Uthark_Runa wrote:Anyway bashing religion is getting old. I really could give a shit about what religion people have faith in, or lack there of. It really is the easy way out to put someone down. 99% of people just want something to believe in, and are peaceful about their practice. Every group has there self-righteous bastards, and extremists, when will we ever stop blanketing whole groups of people by the actions of few? Human nature I guess

Btw whats with the bad image if SGI. I am not member, but I know quite a few, and I don't really see what the big deal is with them. I know they are pretty big here, and have some political influence, but the people I know including some family members, are not all brainwashed cultists. They act and practice like any religious person I know.


All new religions are labelled cults because they threaten to upset the status quo. They are really no more insane than the old established ones but when a new whelp arrives the old dogs start barking.
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Postby sublight » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:56 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Yeah, but it's hard to give Ozawa a thumbs up when he says shit like this:


Sure, but from his perspective, how many Japanese have been blown up by Muslims and how many by Christians?
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:28 pm

sublight wrote:Sure, but from his perspective, how many Japanese have been blown up by Muslims and how many by Christians?


What about the people who've been blown by Maria Ozawa?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:37 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:What about the people who've been blown by Maria Ozawa?


I've got an FG friend who claims to have banged her before she was super famous. Usually I'd call bullshit, but this guy has never given me a reason to doubt him before.
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:42 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:What about the people who've been blown by Maria Ozawa?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby klimmer » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:13 pm

sublight wrote:Sure, but from his perspective, how many Japanese have been blown up by Muslims and how many by Christians?


From WW2 or from Perry's time?
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Postby Kanchou » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:13 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Yeah, but it's hard to give Ozawa a thumbs up when he says shit like this:



and this:


Dude has a point. Buddhism is one of the only 'modern' religions that doesn't require exclusivity. Christianity has belief in a one-and-only God as a membership requirement, and Islam kind of takes this to the extreme...with the whole beheading infidels, and all. Buddhism is the wife-swapper of religions. You can be a Buddhist Christian, Buddhist Jew, Buddhist practicer of Shinto... at least as far as Buddhism is concerned. I would think the Pope probably frowns on Catholics praying to a giant bronze Buddha, though...
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Postby Greji » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:17 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:What about the people who've been blown by Maria Ozawa?


Hair, are you talking about my daughters again?
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:18 pm

American Oyaji wrote:How much you want to bet he's into Soka Gakkai?

Ah AO, you crack me up. So I guess your imaginary sky man is somehow better than whatever imaginary stuff worshiped by gakkai? Personally I don't see any difference... BS is BS, no matter what color you try to spray paint it.
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Postby IkemenTommy » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:24 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:What about the people who've been blown by Maria Ozawa?

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:43 pm

Kanchou wrote:Dude has a point. Buddhism is one of the only 'modern' religions that doesn't require exclusivity. Christianity has belief in a one-and-only God as a membership requirement, and Islam kind of takes this to the extreme...with the whole beheading infidels, and all. Buddhism is the wife-swapper of religions. You can be a Buddhist Christian, Buddhist Jew, Buddhist practicer of Shinto... at least as far as Buddhism is concerned. I would think the Pope probably frowns on Catholics praying to a giant bronze Buddha, though...


All of these ideas about how warm and fuzzy Buddhism is that a lot of people in the West have are bullshit. It's just another shitty exploitative power structure.
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Postby GuyJean » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:51 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:.. It's just another shitty exploitative power structure.
Especially in Japan.. I can't think of one thing the temples have 'given' back to their communities..

That being said, if Jesus were walking the earth today, I think he'd be a Buddhist. :p

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Postby TennoChinko » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:56 pm

American Oyaji wrote:How much you want to bet he's into Soka Gakkai?


Or, deliberately pandering to them.
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:57 pm

I am not really sure where I am going, I just hope that when I get there, I can sit down because I am sure my feet will be tired.
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Postby American Oyaji » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:02 pm

Rom 1:18-25 MKJV For the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, (19) because the thing which may be known of God is clearly revealed within them, for God revealed it to them. (20) For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being realized by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse. (21) Because, knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, neither were thankful. But they became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (22) Professing to be wise, they became fools (23) and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, and birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things. (24) Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves. (25) For they changed the truth of God into a lie, and they worshiped and served the created thing more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
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Postby Neo-Rio » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:22 pm

Christianity is OK... once you understand it... and unfortunately it has that problem. It's way too full of symbolism, parable, and alternate history for anyone to take seriously and attempt to read through the lines.

Then you have all these literalist loonies running around, and the Catholics don't help things, causing the average person to think it's all about an invisible man in the sky with a zombie son that he killed for people that's we're supposed to eat every Sunday. Sure as ever, that explanation is ridiculous and overlooks the symbolism.

No wonder Christianity gets a bad rap really. Buddhism at least spells it out for you. Islam takes Christianity and all it's misunderstood parts out for a re-spin and attacks the very people it wants to convert. All in all, organised religion is corrupt.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:00 pm

The philosophical roots and practices of early Buddhism seem more appealing than Xtianity or Islam, but as an organized religion it's prone to the same organizational flaws as the rest...
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:03 pm

kino wrote:Perhaps you are one of those Christians who doesn't believe in Hell. Quite a few of those running around nowadays.


Well, no I don't really believe in Hell, not that I believe I have done anything or will do anything to warrent a trip, but I would rather think about it. I really don't like Christians who take the Bible too literal and the whole do what I say or God is going to spank you is definitly not the way to handle a religion, its just how I was rasied.
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Postby MrUltimateGaijin » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:21 pm

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Postby MrUltimateGaijin » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:25 pm

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> you gaijin smell nasty very very very much.
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> Japan is not rehabilitation facilities of banished white ugly gaijins like you.
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Postby sublight » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:32 pm

BO-SENSEI wrote:That's not fair, Muslims only blow up Christians, people of the Jewish faith, people of other sects, and of course, themselves.

They blow up Hindus, too.

I've read quite a bit of the bible and studied a fair amount of the religion and its many subdivisions, and while I don't see much wrong with the teachings of Christ (the person), the tenets of Christianity (the organized religion) can go take a leap. If I believe in Jesus, regardless of anything else I've done in life, I'll go to Paradise (maybe with a stopover in Purgatory if the RCs are right). If I don't believe in Jesus, again regardless of anything else I've done in life, it's the lake of fire for me. Eff that and any other exclusionary religion.
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