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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:29 am

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Postby Coligny » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:09 am

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Postby sublight » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:05 pm

Interesting. As the article notes, the position change was partly because Toyota cut their production way back this year in anticipation of low demand. They project 7 million vehicles to be made next year, which would put them way past VW Group's 2009 production.
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Postby Behan » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:05 am

sublight wrote:Interesting. As the article notes, the position change was partly because Toyota cut their production way back this year in anticipation of low demand. They project 7 million vehicles to be made next year, which would put them way past VW Group's 2009 production.


I imagine that a lot of those will be Priuses.
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Postby Yokohammer » Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:04 am

Behan wrote:I imagine that a lot of those will be Priuses.

I was car shopping a little over a month ago, and the Prius was one of my candidates. At that time I was told that if I ordered right then and there I would have to wait until June or July next year for my car. 9 or 10 months. That can't be good for business.
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Postby Coligny » Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:53 pm

Yokohammer wrote:I was car shopping a little over a month ago, and the Prius was one of my candidates. At that time I was told that if I ordered right then and there I would have to wait until June or July next year for my car. 9 or 10 months. That can't be good for business.


3 million Yens for a car that have the same mileage as my 1.6 milion yens Nissan Note... why not... Not even throwing the current Toyota scandal aboot unintented acceleration and hidden recalls... I'm soon even going to cross out Subaru from my 'can be bought from' list. Even if the new imprezza was one of the cheapest AWD car while being small and hatchback. Damn tempting before this mess...
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Postby Yokohammer » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:18 pm

Coligny wrote:3 million Yens for a car that have the same mileage as my 1.6 milion yens Nissan Note... why not... Not even throwing the current Toyota scandal aboot unintented acceleration and hidden recalls... I'm soon even going to cross out Subaru from my 'can be bought from' list. Even if the new imprezza was one of the cheapest AWD car while being small and hatchback. Damn tempting before this mess...

My estimate from the Toyota dealer, including navi and an extra set of studless tires with the appropriate rims, was about 2.7 million. The "Eco Genzei" gets subtracted from that. And I don't know if your Note gets a "real-world" 25 km/l, with the air conditioning on, but the new Prius does. The damn thing is incredibly efficient. But it drives like mush. Yech.

Also, I'm a pretty big guy, and I'm guessing they'd have to pry me out of a Note with heavy machinery. The Prius is surprisingly roomy and comfy. But the crappy drive and long wait killed the deal for me.
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Postby Coligny » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:46 pm

Yokohammer wrote:My estimate from the Toyota dealer, including navi and an extra set of studless tires with the appropriate rims, was about 2.7 million. The "Eco Genzei" gets subtracted from that. And I don't know if your Note gets a "real-world" 25 km/l, with the air conditioning on, but the new Prius does. The damn thing is incredibly efficient. But it drives like mush. Yech.

Also, I'm a pretty big guy, and I'm guessing they'd have to pry me out of a Note with heavy machinery. The Prius is surprisingly roomy and comfy. But the crappy drive and long wait killed the deal for me.


5l/100km with aircon for the Note. But the CVT gearbox have a mind on it's own and the engine is snappy as hell on wet weather, while getting completely sedated on dry days. Will fit a steam boiler under the hood as soon as I find something small enough in 12v...

But what aboot the Honda Insight. The fighter jet-like cockpit was quite attractive to me...
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Postby wuchan » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:03 pm

Coligny wrote:5l/100km with aircon for the Note. But the CVT gearbox have a mind on it's own and the engine is snappy as hell on wet weather, while getting completely sedated on dry days. Will fit a steam boiler under the hood as soon as I find something small enough in 12v...

But what aboot the Honda Insight. The fighter jet-like cockpit was quite attractive to me...

The cvt has an overdrive which allows the car to cruse around at 2,000rpm but when you want to pass it takes a second or so to shut off. The handy little button on the shifter knob will kill the OD faster than mashing the pedal to the floor. If you leave the OD off, AKA "sport" mode", you will get shit milage. Even with the OD my note averages about 13.5kpl and the wife's gets around 15, both are '09 "G" models. The CVT has a rubberized belt and all japanese cars are tuned for the soupy summer air which is why you notice a difference in performance depending on the day. Overall the note is a great little car and with the nismo parts it handles like a Golf but it can't compete with the prius's or insight's fuel consumption.

EDIT**** you can check your average milage by playing with the little button next to your odometer.
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Postby Greji » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:52 pm

wuchan wrote:EDIT**** you can check your average milage by playing with the little button next to your odometer.


My Land Cruiser gets about 2 liters to the kilometer. Is that any good?
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Postby wuchan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:07 am

Greji wrote:My Land Cruiser gets about 2 liters to the kilometer. Is that any good?
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YES!!!!! Only because you can drive over my car. I always wanted to get a F350 with flow master exhaust and a lift kit to scare the fuck out of the locals.

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Postby FG Lurker » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:41 am

I get about 4.5km/litre in the city the way I drive. :) Two turbos and high revs don't help. Lots of fun though. :D
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Report: Toyota plans to shut 300 dealers in Japan

Postby FG Lurker » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:43 am

Report: Toyota plans to shut 300 dealers in Japan
AP via BusinessWeek, November 10, 2009
Local media reports that Toyota Motor Corp. is shutting 300 dealerships in Japan over the next three years.

Toyota is the world's biggest automaker and has 4,000 dealerships nationwide but is expecting its second straight year of losses for the fiscal year through March 2010.

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4000 dealerships is way too fucking many. Closing 300 is a good start, they could probably close 1000 without causing any inconvenience to their customers...
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Postby Coligny » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:44 am

wuchan wrote:The cvt has an overdrive which allows the car to cruse around at 2,000rpm but when you want to pass it takes a second or so to shut off. The handy little button on the shifter knob will kill the OD faster than mashing the pedal to the floor. If you leave the OD off, AKA "sport" mode", you will get shit milage. Even with the OD my note averages about 13.5kpl and the wife's gets around 15, both are '09 "G" models. The CVT has a rubberized belt and all japanese cars are tuned for the soupy summer air which is why you notice a difference in performance depending on the day. Overall the note is a great little car and with the nismo parts it handles like a Golf but it can't compete with the prius's or insight's fuel consumption.

EDIT**** you can check your average milage by playing with the little button next to your odometer.


I got the 2006 model, they don't tell the mileage, the seats are barely better than standing up or park benches.
Knew aboot the sport mode, we call it the "make more noise but don't go any faster" button, or "Hill decent Mode" since it gives more throttle off response. The best way to have a power boost and good throttle off is to turn off the aircon, I'm actually in the process of wiring a button to the gearlever to control the aircon from here. I agree, the Note is excellent bang for the buck, I kinda sorta like his fat ass , the electronic system is dead simple, you can troubleshoot it with an osciloscope, you can take it appart and put it back together in one night, and you won't need any tool for half of the job. But I don't think you can compare the drivetrain with anything from Volkaudi... It's basically a shopping cart with some makeshift suspension, and I'm not even sure there is any kind of braking coming from the rear drums...

But it got quite few drawbacks... you can hide an aircraft carrier behind the A pillar, the steering wheel is too big and don't move forward-backward, no rear fog light, cheap plastic, not exactly a babe magnet. You can't leave the position lights on at night (they cut when you lock the car) BUT he screams like a schoolgirl if you open the driver door with engine off and said light on. Also, automatic lights that don't turn on when you use the shield wipers. Battery so weak/cheap that you reboot the autoradio everytime you restart the engine at a red light.
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Postby Coligny » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:48 am

Greji wrote:My Land Cruiser gets about 2 liters to the kilometer. Is that any good?
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Wait, there's no age limit for driver license renewal ? or are you the kind of folk that started driving before driver license were established ?
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Postby Yokohammer » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:54 am

Coligny wrote:But what aboot the Honda Insight. The fighter jet-like cockpit was quite attractive to me...

It's cool-looking but tiny. A really tight fit. Just about put my back out getting into the thing. That is a car for small people.
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Postby Greji » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:39 pm

Coligny wrote:Wait, there's no age limit for driver license renewal ? or are you the kind of folk that started driving before driver license were established ?


I started driving before cars were established...
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:59 pm

Greji wrote:I started driving before cars were established...
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Greji's first vehicle was a charriot. He lost it when his litte brother borrowed and tried to cross a dry spot in the Red Sea.
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Postby Coligny » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:19 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Greji's first vehicle was a charriot. He lost it when his litte brother borrowed and tried to cross a dry spot in the Red Sea.


And it was already an improvment from his young days when he had to ride a dinosaur to school in the snow, uphill bothways...
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