Japan wannabes "waiting to be insiders"

[Armandeus]

Actually, I am serious. You are a serious bigot. You can't handle it when a yellow bandy legged bugger like myself whips the shit out of you.

I am no bigot. I have great respect for the Japanese (not wannabes like you), and I have personally invested in the Japanese "race" if you get my meaning. Calling me a bigot is merely a futile attempt on your part to play the race card when it is entirely irrelevant, you PC fanatic.

And you have not whipped anything out of me, except a good laugh at your idiotic comments. All you are accomplishing is slowly filling up my beer bottles as I respond to your uninspired drivel.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Actually, I am serious. You are a serious bigot. You can't handle it when a yellow bandy legged bugger like myself whips the shit out of you.

I am no bigot. I have great respect for the Japanese (not wannabes like you), and I have personally invested in the Japanese "race" if you get my meaning. Calling me a bigot is merely a futile attempt on your part to play the race card when it is entirely irrelevant, you PC fanatic.

And you have not whipped anything out of me, except a good laugh at your idiotic comments. All you are accomplishing is slowly filling up my beer bottles as I respond to your uninspired drivel.

Likewise I am sure my good man....uhhhh.....dude you have lost your ability to function with white people. That's what happense when an Arkie stays to damn long.

[Armandeus]

[Armandeus]

Likewise I am sure my good man....uhhhh.....dude you have lost your ability to function with white people. That's what happense when an Arkie stays to damn long.

Again, you presume to know me when in actuality you know absolutely nothing. Troll.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Actually, I am serious. You are a serious bigot. You can't handle it when a yellow bandy legged bugger like myself whips the shit out of you.

I am no bigot. I have great respect for the Japanese (not wannabes like you), and I have personally invested in the Japanese "race" if you get my meaning. Calling me a bigot is merely a futile attempt on your part to play the race card when it is entirely irrelevant, you PC fanatic.

And you have not whipped anything out of me, except a good laugh at your idiotic comments. All you are accomplishing is slowly filling up my beer bottles as I respond to your uninspired drivel.

Oh please with that. Just because you have a Japanese wife doesn't mean a damned thing about your bigoted nature. Maybe you hate white people. Jeffever thinkadat?

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

And furthermore, Jim Katta is in Japan because he cannot stand blacks. Isn't that true Jimbo?

[Armandeus]

Oh please with that. Just because you have a Japanese wife doesn't mean a damned thing about your bigoted nature. Maybe you hate white people. Jeffever thinkadat?

Again with the (entirely incorrect) assumptions. The details of my personal life are none of your business. I am not a bigot, and I have proven it by my actions and words. That will suffice.

You, on the other hand...

I don't hate white people, I hate raving assholes like you. That should be plain as day by now.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Likewise I am sure my good man....uhhhh.....dude you have lost your ability to function with white people. That's what happense when an Arkie stays to damn long.

Again, you presume to know me when in actuality you know absolutely nothing. Troll.

You have cut me to the quick my good man! By the way, did I mention that the cut of your jib just doesn't suit my fancy!

All right then!

[Armandeus]

You have cut me to the quick my good man! By the way, did I mention that the cut of your jib just doesn't suit my fancy!

Whatever. I have no interest in pleasing you.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Oh please with that. Just because you have a Japanese wife doesn't mean a damned thing about your bigoted nature. Maybe you hate white people. Jeffever thinkadat?

Again with the (entirely incorrect) assumptions. The details of my personal life are none of your business. I am not a bigot, and I have proven it by my actions and words. That will suffice.

You, on the other hand...

I don't hate white people, I hate raving assholes like you. That should be plain as day by now.

Oh come on. Japan's foreign community is living such a double standard it is pathetic. Claiming to be disgusted with Japanese who can't relate on a one to one basis with foreigners while banging the same English speaking girls over and over again. Sure there are exceptions. There are always exceptions. But the foreign community in Japan, of which you are a prime example, has grown accustomed to the double standard and the self pity line that it is truly laughable. You chose your path. Quit your bellyaching. The only ones who I would even listen to are your kids. They didn't choose their path you did. Furthermore, they are close enough to being really Japanese to really have issues. You, on the other hand, are just fortunate to be where you are and what you are.

[Armandeus]

Oh come on. Japan's foreign community is living such a double standard it is pathetic. Claiming to be disgusted with Japanese who can't relate on a one to one basis with foreigners while banging the same English speaking girls over and over again.

And that describes me how?

Isn't that the same overgeneralization and bigotry you mistakenly accused me of? Perhaps that is how you spend your time in Japan, but I do not do those things.

Sure there are exceptions. There are always exceptions. But the foreign community in Japan, of which you are a prime example, has grown accustomed to the double standard and the self pity line that it is truly laughable. You chose your path. Quit your bellyaching.

I am not a "prime example" of any such imaginary stereotype.

I pay taxes here, as much or more than many Japanese. I have invested time and work in this community. I am not trying to force anything on anyone, but I will not tolerate being lumped into a non-group by those who think in stereotypes, as you have just demonstrated you do with your first paragraph. My comments were about my personal attitude toward the problem, and my own responsibilities. Others can do what they please, but I do not want to be lumped in with them simply because I am non-Japanese.

The only ones who I would even listen to are your kids. They didn't choose their path you did. Furthermore, they are close enough to being really Japanese to really have issues.

So choosing to live somewhere means someone must resign himself to whatever abuse comes his way? I disagree.

I am not asking you to "listen." I think the only thing being asked of you is to refrain from making infantile insulting comments when they are entirely uncalled for.

You, on the other hand, are just fortunate to be where you are and what you are.

And you are not somehow?

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Are you back again? Go play in the traffic.

[Armandeus]

Are you back again? Go play in the traffic.

What was that? Another impotent attempt to insult me and avoid the issues and questions at hand?

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Are you back again? Go play in the traffic.

What was that? Another impotent attempt to insult me and avoid the issues and questions at hand?

Are you DJEB? Are you DJEB's twin brother? Have you been talking to DJEB?

The similarities are scary.

[Armandeus]

Are you DJEB? Are you DJEB's twin brother? Have you been talking to DJEB?
The similarities are scary.

Sorry, never heard of him.

[Naniwan Kid]

but I will not tolerate being lumped into a non-group by those who think in stereotypes

But, Arman., isn't that the nature of a homegenous society? Japan is the most industrialized racist society in the world. Most Japanese are not racist by choice (like, say the Nazis of Germany, or the KKK of America), but simply out of lack of experience and education. I think you sometimes have to PUT yourelf in the "group" (as much as it stinks) to get yourself out in the eyes of your Japanese associates. Again, I agree with the ideals, but we both know it's not always realistic. Don't most Japanese think in stereotypes?

Recently I was asked my opinion of "gaijin gangs" in Kabuki-cho. The asker (an older woman at a snack my wife's mom took me to). I was asked because she thought I might be uspet by gang activity by "gaijin" because I was a gaijin myself. When I told her what Chinese, Korean, and other gangs in Tokyo do affects only my opinion of the mafia, and very little about my concern about gaijin image. But then I realize that to HER we were the same, to some degree. We talked about it for a few minutes (she knew more about it than I did) and I think she was able to make some distinctions between Chinese Triads and little old me.

Baby steps, you know.

[Armandeus]

But, Arman., isn't that the nature of a homegenous society? Japan is the most industrialized racist society in the world. Most Japanese are not racist by choice (like, say the Nazis of Germany, or the KKK of America), but simply out of lack of experience and education.

Whether Japan is homogenous, or the Japanese merely wish to continue thinking so, is a matter up for debate, I think. And I agree when you blame a lack of education. That was my point in my first post to this thread.

I think you sometimes have to PUT yourelf in the "group" (as much as it stinks) to get yourself out in the eyes of your Japanese associates. Again, I agree with the ideals, but we both know it's not always realistic. Don't most Japanese think in stereotypes?

I'm not sure I follow. I understand that it is an ideal, but so are most opinions about how problems should be remedied. The challenge is finding practical ways to apply that ideal. I suggested that outside of formal education, individuals can tactfully help acquaintances to understand that stereotyping is not good.

When I told her what Chinese, Korean, and other gangs in Tokyo do affects only my opinion of the mafia, and very little about my concern about gaijin image. But then I realize that to HER we were the same, to some degree. We talked about it for a few minutes (she knew more about it than I did) and I think she was able to make some distinctions between Chinese Triads and little old me.

I think we are in agreement about what to do. Your story illustrates my point that we should gently educate those we know about the error of stereotyping.

Baby steps, you know.

I agree with you.

[jingai]

I think Naniwan Kid makes a good point- that the nature of being a gaijin in Japan goes beyond mere xenophobia or stereotyping, and also has a lot to do with Japanese collective thinking. The woman in Naniwan's example sees Naniwan's identity as that of a group- the gaijin group. Japanese may get divided up into more discreet groups- company worker, hick from Shiga, person who lived abroad, but hell, gaijin doesn't even distinguish between nationalities. If someone in your company were arrested, or people in your hometown became sick (Minamata-byo...), it would reflect on everyone working in the company or living in the town, like it or not.

So what can we do about it? The American answer would be: "Treat me as an individual. Look beyond my country of origin and skin color." But wouldn't that leave a Japanese perplexed- you'd still just be floating in Japanese society, groupless, unmoored. You need a meishi and a reason to be there, but I'm not sure even that is enough.

What do you long-timers say? Do you get any credit for sticking around, in the eyes of Japanese?

[Armandeus]

What do you long-timers say? Do you get any credit for sticking around in the eyes of Japanese?

Sorry to keep chiming in here, but I think that if you have a group identity like the ones you named, like working for a company or university, then many Japanese can accept that, and so can I. I think I get credit for that sometimes.

but hell, gaijin doesn't even distinguish between nationalities.

Yes, and it seems to also apply to the "group" that is "all people who are living in other countries." Not just in respect to their non-Japaneseness, as you would expect. Some Japanese will ask questions assuming that all people living outside of Japan, no matter what country or what continent they live on, think and act as a unit. I often get asked questions based on this odd assumption.

[American Oyaji]

It is indeed an odd assumption. Don't know how they manage to do it, but they do.

And Armadeus, there are very few people on this board who would do what you just did with Gai. He's a decent fellow once you get to know him. He does indeed have quite a bit to contribute when he isn't slingin shite. That's why he is tolerated when he goes on his screaming flaming meemies.

But he really is not a bad guy. He likes to flame tho. That he does. But you gave as good as you got. I applaud you.


Welcome to FG.

[kotatsuneko]

this is all so very FUCKED UP....

did no one realise whats missing?

no?

well about 30 flames ago someone forgot to type:

"FIGHT! FIGHT!"

oh well...

anyhow, actually i kind of agree with gai's response to my take on the situation here, even if he didnt give a full response to my views on it..

yes it was my choice to come here, yes i could leave, but no, i cant imagine , or havent learned to accept being in such a small minority, as in london, there isnt really any such thing as a minority... having appreiciated living in a place like that for so long, it still hasnt soaked in that in hokkaido, non obvious , ie non "oriental/asian" whatever gaijin do stick out and are seen as "them"...

thats why, as i said earlier, any image i see, is associated with gaijin in general, i never really think about my own self image as im very comfortable with myself, weight being the exception, but getting fit is for my own pleasure..

fuck you know what, id be pleased if people referred to me/other foreigners as gajijin/gaikokujin rather than just american.. i have some very long friendships with amercians, but its the country i dislike the most.. so that rattles ^^ note its the country or institution i dislike, not the people in general.. getting to know people from ohio, toledo to be more precise, buffalo new york, and west virginia thankfully changed my views on americans...

just cos things will never change doesnt mean any of us have to like it.. and for what its worth, i'm beginning to love sapporo as much as i love my native london.. perhaps in time ill fall back in love with japan, but thatll need a good long journey round the place first.. whats japan like people ask me? i answer i dont know, but i can tell you about sapporo..

hopefully you guys will stop flaming and start speaking.. im sure theres a lot of shit we can all learn and enjoy from you guys discussing shit rather than throw it at each other, just as i find myself learning or thinking about things here from people who have been here a week or a month ..

now when is mr B going to get round to writing a book, and Pongi tono gonna get round to sorting those dvds out..

or Oyaji gonna get round to bumping up that good thread he had about nihon go questions.... or Taro gonna post another hot pic.. or GG/GC/Tina gonna get around here more often..?

this place is great, i mean, its downright fucking cool... so er...

LETS gets sharing experiences / debating instead?

we love f*cked gaijin forum! *would love to have included a little ani gif with the parodius sd vic viper doing that planet ping here, but am too lazy soz.. ^^ *

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Are you DJEB? Are you DJEB's twin brother? Have you been talking to DJEB?
The similarities are scary.

Sorry, never heard of him.

Oh, DJEB is another helpless melnick in Japan who will post "strawman fallacy" to every thing and will post footlong responses to every sentence in a message.

Just like you do!

Furthermore, who gives a fuck about your personal situation. You could be the king of the foreigners speaking/reading/writing Japanese blah, blah, blah.

I have an Aunt (who is not ethnically Japanese in anyway) who has lived in the countryside for 30 plus years and plays Japanese traditional instruments. I have never heard her or any of her friends whine like you do. You have spent 17 years doing this. Get over it. You chose this.

And you know damned well most of my take on you is on point. I have met at least 50 Arkies like you and you pretty much all have the same story. Usually, you guys are nice enough people but you aren't much for deep, independent thinking.

[Armandeus]

Oh, DJEB is another helpless melnick in Japan who will post "strawman fallacy" to every thing and will post footlong responses to every sentence in a message.

Just like you do!

Will you give it a rest. You are in the wrong here, and it is painfully obvious.

Furthermore, who gives a fuck about your personal situation. You could be the king of the foreigners speaking/reading/writing Japanese blah, blah, blah.

I never asked anyone to give a fuck! I simply said do not patronize me like a newbie, and then you challenged me on that, so I explained to you how I am not a newbie. Do you forget so soon?

I have an Aunt (who is not ethnically Japanese in anyway) who has lived in the countryside for 30 plus years and plays Japanese traditional instruments.

Who gives a fuck about your personal situation.

I have never heard her or any of her friends whine like you do. You have spent 17 years doing this. Get over it. You chose this.

I have not whined once. If you are so blind as to not be able to constructively criticize the country you live in, then you are either sheeple or a skinhead. Either that, or you apparently view anyone who does not parrot your opinion as a "whiner." You are the one still whining about my statements. Whiner.

You still haven't answered some of my questions, for example "how old are you." Coward. Bullies like you are all cowards at heart.

And you know damned well most of my take on you is on point. I have met at least 50 Arkies like you and you pretty much all have the same story. Usually, you guys are nice enough people but you aren't much for deep, independent thinking.

Kiss my ass. What the hell is an "Arkie" anyway? I think more independently than you ever will, you Limbaugh bootlicker.

You have decisively lost this flame war and you will not dominate or humiliate me no matter how hard you attempt to do so.

And Armadeus, there are very few people on this board who would do what you just did with Gai. ...But you gave as good as you got. I applaud you.

Thanks. I will not be intimidated by a sophomoric troll who hurls insults as his very first response to someone's point and makes personal attacks in lieu of having debating skills and reason.

[kotatsuneko]

ah well fuck it, this thread is never gonna get nice ....so here goes....

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

but id really like to see you lot talk rather than fight..


then again youre having so *much fun*



so whos the butch and whos the beyatch then?

[Armandeus]

but id really like to see you lot talk rather than fight.

I would rather talk too, if it did not involve puerile insults and arrogant self-centeredness. I will not back down from a fight, though.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Oh, DJEB is another helpless melnick in Japan who will post "strawman fallacy" to every thing and will post footlong responses to every sentence in a message.

Just like you do!

Will you give it a rest. You are in the wrong here, and it is painfully obvious.

What is wrong. That you sound just like that Left wing kook DJEB. As a matter of fact you do. That's the fact.

Furthermore, who gives a fuck about your personal situation. You could be the king of the foreigners speaking/reading/writing Japanese blah, blah, blah.

I never asked anyone to give a fuck! I simply said do not patronize me like a newbie, and then you challenged me on that, so I explained to you how I am not a newbie. Do you forget so soon?

I will never forget that a moron can live in Japan for 17 years and still be the same dumb Arkie he was when he began.

I have an Aunt (who is not ethnically Japanese in anyway) who has lived in the countryside for 30 plus years and plays Japanese traditional instruments.

Who gives a fuck about your personal situation.

Not my personal situation you hapless pasty faced whiner. I am talking about someone who has lived in Japan for many years as a full blooded foreigner and never lost ability to remember why she came. You will be dead before this light ever dawns on you.

I have never heard her or any of her friends whine like you do. You have spent 17 years doing this. Get over it. You chose this.

I have not whined once. If you are so blind as to not be able to constructively criticize the country you live in, then you are either sheeple or a skinhead. Either that, or you apparently view anyone who does not parrot your opinion as a "whiner." You are the one still whining about my statements. Whiner.

Go back and read your own damned post you pathetic little whiner, couldn't get a job in America, couldn't date a Westerner piece of white trash.

You still haven't answered some of my questions, for example "how old are you." Coward. Bullies like you are all cowards at heart.

I am not a bully. Believe me I kick the shit out of bullies. Furthermore I am 31. 6 years younger and 100 years better than you.

And you know damned well most of my take on you is on point. I have met at least 50 Arkies like you and you pretty much all have the same story. Usually, you guys are nice enough people but you aren't much for deep, independent thinking.

Kiss my ass. What the hell is an "Arkie" anyway? I think more independently than you ever will, you Limbaugh bootlicker.

An Arkie is a country bumpkin dumbass. You are an Arkie.

You have decisively lost this flame war and you will not dominate or humiliate me no matter how hard you attempt to do so.

Dream on screwball. For a 37 year old guy you are remarkably immature.

And Armadeus, there are very few people on this board who would do what you just did with Gai. ...But you gave as good as you got. I applaud you.

Thanks. I will not be intimidated by a sophomoric troll who hurls insults as his very first response to someone's point and makes personal attacks in lieu of having debating skills and reason.

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Calling me a turdmunch was the highlight of your rejoinders. Yes. This was high level debate. Whiner.

[Armandeus]

What is wrong. That you sound just like that Left wing kook DJEB. As a matter of fact you do. That's the fact.

Anybody is left wing from the viewpoint of a manaical right-wing Limbaugh dittohead such as yourself. There's nowhere to go but left.

I will never forget that a moron can live in Japan for 17 years and still be the same dumb Arkie he was when he began.

You write and write, but you have nothing of value to say. All you can do is make infantile insults, and this somehow increases your self-worth. The best you could do was to stereotype all foreigners as womanizers.

Not my personal situation you hapless pasty faced whiner. I am talking about someone who has lived in Japan for many years as a full blooded foreigner and never lost ability to remember why she came. You will be dead before this light ever dawns on you.

You presume to know all but you know nothing. You haven't even learned basic manners - who are you to judge others?

I came here to live out my life. That is very different from the "armchair Japanese" you claim to be, who brags but hasn't the experience to back it up. Your patronizing self-important know-it-all attitude is what started this flame war in the first place, and you still haven't learned.

You brought up your "Arkie" aunt as an illustration of someone who thinks exactly as you do. Well, congratulations. Apparently you applaud conformity if it pleases you. So much for deep independent thinking.

Go back and read your own damned post you pathetic little whiner, couldn't get a job in America, couldn't date a Westerner piece of white trash.

You wrote those pathetic things, you shitbag, not me. I have never written any such thing, and those things are not true. You can't even get your facts straight about who said what, and you criticize my debating skills and intelligence? You have the attention span and memory of an infant. How fitting that you are still having a tantrum here.

I am not a bully. Believe me I kick the shit out of bullies. Furthermore I am 31. 6 years younger and 100 years better than you.

You are a bully. That is how you began this discussion, and you are still fulfilling that role. You are pitiful, and I have yet to see you say one thing that deserves even an inkling of the respect you unjustifiably brag that you deserve.

An Arkie is a country bumpkin dumbass. You are an Arkie.

You are an asshole. And an overpresumptuous one at that. How big the city I live in has nothing to do with what kind of person I am. You truly are a shallow individual if you presume to be able to judge people in that way.

Where do you live? It had better be a damned impressive place, with all the status you so childishly assign to whether someone currently lives in a big city or not.

Dream on screwball. For a 37 year old guy you are remarkably immature.

Who are you to judge? You are the best example of immaturity and self-centeredness I have seen in a long while. I am still waiting for you to end this tantrum of yours.

Calling me a turdmunch was the highlight of your rejoinders. Yes. This was high level debate. Whiner.

Still whining, I see. Oh, and your comment about vomit was somehow deserving of respect? You are a worthless blowhard, a cowardly bully, and a waste of my time.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

What is wrong. That you sound just like that Left wing kook DJEB. As a matter of fact you do. That's the fact.

Anybody is left wing from the viewpoint of a manaical right-wing Limbaugh dittohead such as yourself. There's nowhere to go but left.

You don't know anything about me. How dare you assume that I am as on the right as Limbaugh.... or some such nonsense that you would say to this comment.

I will never forget that a moron can live in Japan for 17 years and still be the same dumb Arkie he was when he began.

You write and write, but you have nothing of value to say. All you can do is make infantile insults, and this somehow increases your self-worth. The best you could do was to stereotype all foreigners as womanizers.

No, what I said was that many foreigners in Japan are melnicks. Most of those guys are military. There are exceptions, of course, but the general rule is that they are goofs.

Not my personal situation you hapless pasty faced whiner. I am talking about someone who has lived in Japan for many years as a full blooded foreigner and never lost ability to remember why she came. You will be dead before this light ever dawns on you.

You presume to know all but you know nothing. You haven't even learned basic manners - who are you to judge others?

You're doing a lot of presuming yourself bub.

I came here to live out my life. That is very different from the "armchair Japanese" you claim to be, who brags but hasn't the experience to back it up. Your patronizing self-important know-it-all attitude is what started this flame war in the first place, and you still haven't learned.

No, you came to Japan to get a life. Armchair Japanese? Dude I function very well in both cultures. You will never really get it because you were not speaking/listening to Japanese and Japan as a child.

You brought up your aunt as an illustration of someone who thinks exactly as you do. Well, congratulations. Apparently you applaud conformity if it pleases you. So much for deep independent thinking.

No, I brought up someone I know who came to Japan because she wanted to and not out of necessity. That's why she doesn't have a chip on her shoulder and you do.

Go back and read your own damned post you pathetic little whiner, couldn't get a job in America, couldn't date a Westerner piece of white trash.

You wrote those pathetic things, you shitbag, not me. I have never written any such thing, and those things are not true. You can't even get your facts straight about who said what, and you criticize my debating skills and intelligence? You have the attention span and memory of an infant. How fitting that you are still having a tantrum here.

I am having a tantrum??? Dude, you have referred to me as shitbag, turdmunch or whatever. Get a grip dude. You are just looking silly now.

I am not a bully. Believe me I kick the shit out of bullies. Furthermore I am 31. 6 years younger and 100 years better than you.

You are a bully. That is how you began this discussion, and you are still fulfilling that role. You are pitiful, and I have yet to see you say one thing that deserves even an inkling of the respect you unjustifiably brag that you deserve.

No, I began this thread by calling you on an incredible assumption you make. That is, you ASSUME that America's version of internationalization is better. Dude, that is not the case. If Japan truly internationalized goofs like you would be unemployed. Understand this, and after 17 years you should know this, Japanese do NOT view what goes on in America as something to emulate. Quit talking to your wife all the time and make some friends who are interested in something other than your pretty blue (but blank) eyes.

An Arkie is a country bumpkin dumbass. You are an Arkie.

You are an asshole. And an overpresumptuous one at that.

Look, tell me something I don't know. I know you would consider me an asshole. That is because I don't buy your bag of horseshit. I am an original. You are off the rack and it blows your little public school educated mind to finally hear a different point of view. Wake up! I am the future.

How big the city I live in has nothing to do with what kind of person I am. You truly are a shallow individual if you presume to be able to judge people in that way.

Maybe it was because you placed such great emphasis on age that made me respond in kind. Bumpkin!

Where do you live? It had better be a damned impressive place, with all the status you so childishly assign to whether someone currently lives in a big city or not.

The center of the universe amigo. The big apple, NYC, the financial capital of the world, melting pot of the globe, Manhattan is where I write you from.

Dream on screwball. For a 37 year old guy you are remarkably immature.

Who are you to judge? You are the best example of immaturity and self-centeredness I have seen in a long while. I am still waiting for you to end this tantrum of yours.

Likewise amigo, likewise.

Calling me a turdmunch was the highlight of your rejoinders. Yes. This was high level debate. Whiner.

Still whining, I see. Oh, and your comment about vomit was somehow deserving of respect? You are a worthless blowhard, a cowardly bully, and a waste of my time.

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No I am not. I am merely disagreeing with you. Sorry to have caused your public funded brains to shoot out the top of your pointy head like wip cream on a hot day but the truth hurts.

[Armandeus]

You don't know anything about me. How dare you assume that I am as on the right as Limbaugh.... or some such nonsense that you would say to this comment.

From what I have seen you post. Why are you so shocked? You have been making similar nonsensical generalizations about me from the start. Can't you take what you dish out? Maybe it's the cowardly bully in you.

No, what I said was that many foreigners in Japan are melnicks. Most of those guys are military. There are exceptions, of course, but the general rule is that they are goofs.

And again you overgeneralize and distort. You did not mention the military when you first made your comment about foreigners who take advantage of the same English-speaking girls over and over.

And why if you are so gung-ho about the US military do you never miss an opportunity to insult servicemen? Ingrate. What do you know about what kind of person is in the military anyway? You are clueless.

You're doing a lot of presuming yourself bub.

C'mon. I've been fending off your ridiculous presumptions about me since your first comment about what I wrote.

No, you came to Japan to get a life.

Here is a prime example of your asinine presumptions. How the fuck would you know about my life in any way?

Armchair Japanese? Dude I function very well in both cultures. You will never really get it because you were not speaking/listening to Japanese and Japan as a child.

I seriously doubt your arrogance goes over well in Japan, much less in the US. You are certainly showing your complete lack of tact and manners here in the way you have responded to me from the beginning. I am not impressed. You are as childish as they come, and your language skills did not impress me either.

No, I brought up someone I know who came to Japan because she wanted to and not out of necessity. That's why she doesn't have a chip on her shoulder and you do.

Why do you keep insisting that I came here "out of necessity?" I came here because I wanted to. Get that through your thick skull.

I do not have a chip on my shoulder, except maybe toward rude people like you. To not want to play along with shallow stereotypes is not the same thing as having a chip on your shoulder. I don't know where you get that. Your whole "point" is that everyone should know his place and be grateful for what scraps come his way. You certainly don't practice what you preach.

I am having a tantrum??? Dude, you have referred to me as shitbag, turdmunch or whatever. Get a grip dude. You are just looking silly now.

It is only now that you have refrained from using profanity. You have been calling me names like "motherfucker" since the first few posts. You twist the truth to suit yourself, but I am not fooled.

No, I began this thread by calling you on an incredible assumption you make. That is, you ASSUME that America's version of internationalization is better.

Incorrect. I have made no such assumption. My point was that "kokusaika" as it is practiced does not jibe with the meaning of the word. I did not say that the American way was best, nor did I mention America at all. I have even asked the question "what do you think internationalization means?" and similar questions to encourage debate. In response to that, you made some inane joke about Engrish and taking peoples' jobs. You don't have a point, you just want to troll.

Dude, that is not the case. If Japan truly internationalized goofs like you would be unemployed.

Again, all you can do is call me names. You have nothing pertinent to say.

Understand this, and after 17 years you should know this, Japanese do NOT view what goes on in America as something to emulate.

You demonstrate once again that you have a short memory. I have already acknowledged this and said I don't want the Japanese to mimic Americans, especially your kind. I know this very well. But do you? You are the "America supremacist" around here.

Quit talking to your wife all the time and make some friends who are interested in something other than your pretty blue (but blank) eyes.

Again with the totally wrong assumptions. You know absolutely nothing about me outside of what I have told you. I suggest you shut up about my personal life.

I am an original. You are off the rack and it blows your little public school educated mind to finally hear a different point of view. Wake up! I am the future.

You are nothing. Nothing you have said impresses me whatsoever. You are only full of yourself. And you have no respect for others and their opinions. Someone makes a statement, and you flame them instead of calmly stating your counterargument. You are not the future, nor are you original or anything other than rude and obnoxious.

Maybe it was because you placed such great emphasis on age that made me respond in kind. Bumpkin!

Wrong. You asked me my age in Japanese. I tire of your lies. Dishonest people like you will never earn my respect. You should at least double-check the thread so your lies will be more plausible.

Since you have such a short memory, or cannot refer back to the first page for some reason, here is a direct quote of your first response to my opinion:

No, I guess the world has to choose your way or the highway. Of course, you don't complain at all when people are biased in your favor do you? Japan has a lot to offer so quit your whining before my puke goes into orbit and rains little bitty pieces of corn kernels down on your blunt head.

Now who was the first to be a rude ass? Who was first to resort to idiotic threats? Who made no less than two asinine assumptions in one paragraph and then twisted them into personal attacks? Who is the one who cannot have a calm debate in an adult fashion? Of course, that would be you. Liar.

It does not bother me in the least that you have a different opinion. I welcome debate. What bothers me is that you feel you have to be a childish ass about it.

The center of the universe amigo. The big apple, NYC, the financial capital of the world, melting pot of the globe, Manhattan is where I write you from.

And you know what? I am neither impressed nor do I care. If anything it just goes to show that if one assumes that all New Yorkers are cultured and sophisticated, one would be proven wrong by example of you.

Likewise amigo, likewise.

You are famous on this board as a childish ass. It is plain to see.

No I am not. I am merely disagreeing with you. Sorry to have caused your public funded brains to shoot out the top of your pointy head like wip cream on a hot day but the truth hurts.

You did not "merely disagree." You attempted to insult, and tried to make your "point" with a childish and idiotic threat about vomit. Is that supposed to impress me that you "are the future"? Please. You are simply an arrogant fool and an opportunistic liar.

You lose, asshole. Now piss off.