Anime Animators A$$ed Out

[2triky]

http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/tough-times-for-animes-animators-2009-11-22/B0731C1D-8B17-45A7-B1DE-8E25C1F71EA1

[Samurai_Jerk]

http://www.marketwatch.com/video/asset/tough-times-for-animes-animators-2009-11-22/B0731C1D-8B17-45A7-B1DE-8E25C1F71EA1

I knew anime didn't pay well but that's fucking ridiculous. These guys would be better off working fulltime at 7-11 or McDonald's.

[2triky]

I knew anime didn't pay well but that's fucking ridiculous.

That is exactly the response I had...that is crazy low pay...fuggin' a.

These guys would be better off working fulltime at 7-11 or McDonald's.

After watching that report I don't doubt it.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I'd recommend a week of enjo kosai and then they can afford to do the work they love....

[2triky]

I'd recommend a week of enjo kosai and then they can afford to do the work they love....

Perhaps but the two women they interviewed for that piece were pretty dayem busted...they ain't going to be turning any tricks anytime soon, ya feel.

If they had the looks that kill, they probably won't be in that predicament. C'est la vie.

[Greji]

they ain't going to be turning any tricks anytime soon, ya feel.

Ahh, that might not be exactly correct.....

[Mulboyne]

This is a common story across a number of industries. Japan's reaction to deflation has largely been to produce the same goods and services at cheaper and cheaper cost. One of the main costs they have targeted is labour which is why production gets moved offshore or else domestic wages get cut. There has been insufficient effort put into increasing productivity or creating new products and markets. You don't have to be a rabid free market advocate to realize that growth is the main solution to a number of Japan's problems but there is no strategy for that in many parts of the economy. To be fair, no other economy in modern times has faced Japan's deflation challenge but you would hope that other countries might have tried some different solutions over twenty years.

[2triky]

Ahh, that might not be exactly correct.....

Com'on goat...even you ain't that drunk.

[Greji]

Com'on goat...even you ain't that drunk.

As I have stated for the record during previous dissertations: "Ugly pussy is grateful pussy!" Case closed!

[BO-SENSEI]

Unfortunatly I think that some people would rather be an animator and get paid shit then be an employ somewhere else and maybe make more money. They don't care that they can't get rich at it, they just want to make cartoons all day.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Unfortunatly I think that some people would rather be an animator and get paid shit then be an employ somewhere else and maybe make more money. They don't care that they can't get rich at it, they just want to make cartoons all day.

I understand that money isn't everything and not everyone is motivated by getting rich, but $11,000 dollars a year in Japan? Working fulltime at a combini in Tokyo would bring in double that.

[2triky]

I understand that money isn't everything and not everyone is motivated by getting rich, but $11,000 dollars a year in Japan?

Life at that pay scale does seem unsustainable...especially in Tokyo. The reporter did mention that most animators quit within 3 years.

[BO-SENSEI]

Life at that pay scale does seem unsustainable...especially in Tokyo. The reporter did mention that most animators quit within 3 years.

Kind of like how people who flock to Hollywood, doing whatever they can in hopes of making it big, in their case, becoming the next Miyazaki.

[2triky]

Kind of like how people who flock to Hollywood, doing whatever they can in hopes of making it big, in their case, becoming the next Miyazaki.

Your point is well taken, but do you think even those people earned 11K a year? Seems doubtful.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Kind of like how people who flock to Hollywood, doing whatever they can in hopes of making it big, in their case, becoming the next Miyazaki.

Those people make a whole hell of a lot more money waiting tables and bar tending in LA in the meantime.

[Western All Stars]

A friend told me that most of the animation work nowadays is outsourced to China/Korea. I saw an interview by Mamoru Hosoda a few months ago where he was almost bragging about the hundreds of Chinese hired for cheap labor used for the movie Summer Wars.

[Hokgwai]

In the old days the US used to outsource animation to Japan in order to save cash.

Now the scabs themselves are outsourcing. Ironic.

It's truly a pity because Anime (even though I'm not a big fan of it) is, like it or not one of Japan's (gag) cultural treasures. Considering the huge impact it has had around the world recently and epecially in animation in general. It one of Japan's major industries and should be nutured. Even though most of it is crap, just like Hollywood (which also produces a lot of crap) at least it has a real place in terms of contributing to the economy.

Additionally, it has been instrumental in preserving the appeal of traditional handrawn animation in people's minds worldwide.

(can't believe I'm writing a defense for Anime here because I personally living in Japan has led me to nearly wretch at most of the anime I see. Anyway it has an important place in the animation medium.


As to those animators who are getting finacially raped, that's kind of the way the business goes. Even in Hollywood. You take work where and WHEN-ever you can get it. Crappy as it may be, the experience you get (even from shitty studios) is invaluable in terms of having some some type of clout when you look for work elsewhere and understanding the business of production and animation.