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Western Video Games Are Not Geemu

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Western Video Games Are Not Geemu

Postby Mulboyne » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:26 am

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Postby BO-SENSEI » Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:44 am

Why would that be discriminatory, it is all about the player preference. Western games should not have to worry if they do not sell well in Japan or not, a vast majority of Western games are shooters and RTS and most Japanese games are action, RPG, and simulation(controversal genres aside). The only difference is that a game released in the US can sell about a million units and be a bust while a game in Japan can sell a few 100,000 and be a success. Games also get rated differently between US and Japan too, where games like Gundam: Target in Sight/Crossfire got good reviews in Japan, it was considered "shovelware of the highest order" in America and recieved horrible ratings. I am sure that there are plently of kids in America that love Japanese games as well I am sure there are plenty of those who love American games in Japan.
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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:48 am

BO-SENSEI wrote:...Why would that be discriminatory, it is all about the player preference...

I have no idea if he is right but I take him to mean that he thinks the term is derogatory and acts as a conscious or unconscious deterrent. Just as "Made in Japan" was always factually correct but, back in the day, always carried the implication that the product was inferior.
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Postby Coligny » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:35 pm

Mulboyne wrote:I have no idea if he is right but I take him to mean that he thinks the term is derogatory and acts as a conscious or unconscious deterrent. Just as "Made in Japan" was always factually correct but, back in the day, always carried the implication that the product was inferior.


lolwhut ? when I was kid the top of the top was either Made In RFA (germany back when there was 2 of dem') or Made In Japan... Today I'm still moderatly pissed off when I buy something from a japanese brand written Made In China (kyosho MiniZ are dreadfull for this, the chinese ones are... barely better than ˜real˜ knock off while the made in japan were pure gold...)
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Postby 2triky » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:07 am

Japanese Developers lack Humor says Itagaki
Dead or Alive creator slams Japanese creative culture

Outspoken game developer Tomonobu Itagaki says many of his fellow Japanese game-makers are struggling to connect with international audiences because they lack social skills.

In an interview with Gamasutra, the creator of Dead of Alive said, "It's important to have the skill to express yourself. I'm talking about social skills...Japanese developers, don't have the necessary social skills. The American social skills, European social skills. Maybe they don't have humor; they don't know how to joke around. Maybe it's a problem with their manner. So if those people don't have those necessary social skills, and if those people are the ones who are developing the game, no matter how much they try to make globally accepted, globally popular games, that work in different cultures, that might be very difficult.

In 2008, Itagaki quit his long-term role at Tecmo to set up is own studio, Valhalla Game Studios. He is working with THQ on action-shooter Devil's Third.

He praised THQ's management style, and said, "In Japan, management people sort of pretend they know what they're doing. Those management people say, 'I love games,' but they don't know how to make them. So the kind of instructions that they would give to the employees would be, 'Okay, you've got to make it by when, and it has to be within this budget, and you have to sell whatever many copies.' It's the opposite of the practical. It's not practical."

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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:04 am

2triky wrote:Japanese Developers lack Humor says Itagaki
Dead or Alive creator slams Japanese creative culture


Don't be ridiculous...Japanese take their humor very seriously.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:30 am

2triky wrote:"In Japan, management people sort of pretend they know what they're doing. Those management people say, 'I love games,' but they don't know how to make them. So the kind of instructions that they would give to the employees would be, 'Okay, you've got to make it by when, and it has to be within this budget, and you have to sell whatever many copies.' It's the opposite of the practical. It's not practical."


Deadlines, budgets, and sales are realities in any management style. Most of us get what he's saying but he should have pointed out that the real difference is the retarded level strictness to procedure and [s]cultural[/s] childish BS and rules that prevent things from progressing in a reasonable manner.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:41 am

The next generation may be better prepared...
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Postby matsuki » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:26 am

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:27 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Don't be ridiculous...Japanese take their humor very seriously.


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