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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:11 pm

US, Japan forge open skies agreement

The U.S. and Japan reached a landmark agreement Friday to relax limits on flights between the two countries, opening up the possibility of broader cross-border airline alliances and more options for air travelers.

Under the agreement, which still must be finalized by both governments, airlines from both countries would be allowed to select routes and destinations based on consumer demand for both passenger and cargo services without limitations on the number of U.S. or Japanese carriers that can fly between the two countries or the number of flights they can operate.

The agreement also would remove restrictions on capacity and pricing, and provide unlimited opportunities for cooperative marketing arrangements between U.S. and Japanese carriers.

Delta and United Airlines are already allowed to serve Japanese cities, and Delta's acquisition of Northwest Airlines last year increased its Asian presence. But U.S. passenger airlines have been generally limited in the routes and number of flights they can operate to Japan.

United CEO Gle-nn Tilton said his airline soon would file an antitrust immunity application for a trans-Pacific joint venture with All Nippon Airways and Continental Airlines. The U.S.-Japan agreement likely will also prompt Japan Airlines to seek a joint venture with a U.S. carrier.

The U.S.-Japan agreement also would provide opportunities for growth of U.S. carrier operations at Narita Airport near Tokyo and ensure fair competition regarding the new opportunities at Tokyo's Haneda Airport, which is close to the city center, according to a statement from the U.S. Department of Transportation. ...

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Postby Kanchou » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:34 pm

Does this mean I'll actually be able to afford to go Japan for the first time in four years? Or will it actually become even more ridiculously priced?
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Postby Mock Cockpit » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:07 pm

Kanchou wrote:Does this mean I'll actually be able to afford to go Japan for the first time in four years? Or will it actually become even more ridiculously priced?

Special-price-fixing-cartel agreements aside now is the time to go. Air-fares are as cheap now as they've been for at least a decade. Last year it was 370,000 yen for me and my 2 boys to go to Australia, this year the same trip with the missus coming as well is only 350,000 yen. Win!
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Postby FG Lurker » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:20 pm

Kanchou wrote:Does this mean I'll actually be able to afford to go Japan for the first time in four years? Or will it actually become even more ridiculously priced?

Apart from the crazy-ass strong yen that pushes up the prices you pay here (in dollar terms) by 20%?
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:34 pm

Kanchou wrote:Does this mean I'll actually be able to afford to go Japan for the first time in four years? Or will it actually become even more ridiculously priced?

At the moment, for mid jan to mid feb, east coast US rates to NRT seem fairly reasonable at $800-875 round trip with taxes. Even pushing out to mid march to mid april, united and delta are offering rates at $840-875 which is pretty good for early spring.
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Postby Kanchou » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:05 am

When I went to Japan is was just over $500...
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Postby cujojpn » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:45 pm

My tickets were $800 from Chicago->Narita through JAL, i thought that was a nice deal.
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Postby Kanchou » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:14 am

OTOH, $500 was for a one-way trip, which tend to be just as much if not more than a round trip.
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Postby GuyJean » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:26 pm

The price of fuel is way down but the last time I checked on tickets, fuel and taxes were still a huge portion of total price; about the same ratio as when fuel peaked.. Why is that? Have the 'extra costs' always been that high?

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