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Mitsubishi offers containerized 'grow-ops'

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Mitsubishi offers containerized 'grow-ops'

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:38 pm

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Postby waruta » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:42 pm

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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:59 pm

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Postby waruta » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:06 pm

I used to remember people burying a 40 footer in their backyards and digging a tunnel from their basement to access the container. Strictly for legal purposes of course. Anyways, LIDAR and Heat Thermal cams mounted on the police choppers soon put an end to that. Not to mention digging a giant hole in your backyard is kind of hard to conceal from the neighbors.... Still a great idea though...
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Postby Doctor Stop » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:50 pm

Expensive yes, but it sure like it'll beat trying to grow leaf vegetables in your car:

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Postby IkemenTommy » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:17 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:(2) water treatment facilities for water circulation, filtration and recycling,

Did anyone say hydroponics? :cool:
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:58 pm

This would be absolutely perfect for growing the stuff I always take to Roppongi to sell to the Japanese who immediately blame me when they get caught with it in their possession....
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Postby sublight » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:15 pm

That would explain why the stuff is so expensive here...
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Postby Kanchou » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:04 am

For a second I wondered what kind of retard would go to the trouble and expense of growing anything that wasn't illegal or in space in a container, then I remembered this is Japan.
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Postby Visitor K » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:31 am

Taro Toporific wrote:About 50 leaf vegetables such as lettuce can be harvested per day...


not to piss on anyones parade, but it says leaf vegetables, not flowering plants..
hook it up with some HID sodium or metal halide lights and you would be set. or so ive been told..
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Postby wuchan » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:35 am

Visitor K wrote:not to piss on anyones parade, but it says leaf vegetables, not flowering plants..
hook it up with some HID sodium or metal halide lights and you would be set. or so ive been told..

Fluorescent will work if you can manage to get enough watts per sq. foot without having the lights too far away (no farther than eight inches). HID lights are much more efficient but create enough heat to boil water. All according to books that I have read for educational purposes.
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Postby waruta » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:33 am

wuchan wrote:Fluorescent will work if you can manage to get enough watts per sq. foot without having the lights too far away (no farther than eight inches). HID lights are much more efficient but create enough heat to boil water. All according to books that I have read for educational purposes.



Fluorescents only work for your tiny little seedlings. After that, no matter how close or how many fluoros you cram together, you will always get thin bean stalks stretching up to the light.

MH then HPS for flowering works best, there is some bs going around the net/forums about the LED light that looks like an UFO that supposedly puts out more in the red spectrum than MH/HPS but for 30,000+ yen without a guarantee, nobody I know is willing to try it.

I've seen a nice Deep Water Bucket system with a single 600w MH/HPS combo light grow a 6ft tall pepper plan, it looked awesome in the living room. The coolest part was that you could adjust the hotness of the peppers by switching out formula and/or drying out the plant. The only problem was, those little fuckers were so hot, if you brushed by the damn plant by accident, then wiped your face or skin, you would know it within 0.2 seconds.

I am trying now to grow me some Chinese Parsley (Pakuchi) since I love the stuff and our supermarket is killing me with their prices. I just can't seem to find the seeds/seedlings. Im going to go with the natural/free method of lighting instead of high-output lights. If I do go with MH/HPS, these little fuckers are going to cost me over 100yen a bunch just in electricity which kind of defeats the purpose.....
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Postby Level3 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:38 am

..and the trade name for a climate-controlled cargo container with refreigeration?

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Postby wuchan » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:24 pm

waruta wrote:Fluorescents only work for your tiny little seedlings. After that, no matter how close or how many fluoros you cram together, you will always get thin bean stalks stretching up to the light.

MH then HPS for flowering works best, there is some bs going around the net/forums about the LED light that looks like an UFO that supposedly puts out more in the red spectrum than MH/HPS but for 30,000+ yen without a guarantee, nobody I know is willing to try it.


HID is the best but they create so much heat and require tons of juice to work. The trade off is a 400 watt HPS can cover 5.5sq feet and throw light up to eight feet. The problem is that most people don't have a grow space that large and don't have the money to build a properly ventilated enclosure.

Fluorescents only throw useable light six inches. The trick is to keep the plants small (SOG method), keep them horizontal (SCROG method), or have small chambers with lights on the walls. We use SOG for our tomato clones until they are about eight inches high. The cherry types are usually already fruiting before we take them out to the greenhouse.
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Postby Shikoku.Kichiguy » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:07 pm

If your fluorescents have a color temperature range between 2,500-3,000k, certain plants will flower.
CFLs work mighty fine in this case.
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