Boaring & deadly (E zoonosis)

[Taro Toporific]

Man dies after eating raw boar
Yomiuri / Aug 2. 2003
A 70-year-old man from Tottori Prefecture died in April of hepatitis E after eating raw wild boar that carried the virus... in the same prefecture who ate the meat also contracted the disease, as well as four people in Hyogo Prefecture who ate raw deer meat earlier this year.
..these are the first reported cases in the world of hepatitis E virus being transmitted from wild animals to humans...

[Andocrates]

good lord, who in their right minds eats raw animal meat?

I can sorta understand fish since I like sushi (although, I heard of a girl who got a tape worm from sushi-but it's hearsay)

[Pizzicatoblue]

That's the same question I want to ask.. But there're people out there today that still eat raw animal meat, (i.e Germany). Over there they eat any kind of raw meat with egg yolks, for which they call the old dish, meat tar-tar.

[mercutio]

That's the same question I want to ask.. But there're people out there today that still eat raw animal meat, (i.e Germany). Over there they eat any kind of raw meat with egg yolks, for which they call the old dish, meat tar-tar.

Hell its not that uncommon here. I was out for sushi with some friends and we were sharing a bunch of plates of sushi at the table... It was only after I'd eaten some of everything that I found out one plate was actually raw chicken sushi ...and another one was horse!:oops:

The raw chicken was actually pretty good but I was quite convinced I wasn't going to wake up the next morning (I've always been told undercooked chicken will pretty much kill you) There were no ill effects. Still I think the risks just arent worth it. Like the old japanese saying, "fugu is tasty but life is precious"

[cliffy]

Steak Tartare, Beef Cappricio (sp.?), Sushi (fish yes but still raw) all acceptable if well stored, handled and prepared. Most adverse reactions to these Raw foods is a kneejerk response, "It's not COOKED!", most of the people who I have met with these reactions will readily eat raw fruits and vegtables fresh from source, ie trees, bushes and veggie plots and proclaim the healthy aspects of Farm Fresh, including pesticides, anti-fungal sprays and the good old manure mulch fertiliser that grows the best veggies (E.coli anyone?). As I said handling and preperation is paramount then texture and taste.

FUGU?, not for this little black duck but go ahead if you wish, handleing and preperation, very important!

[Blah Pete]

My inlaws in Nagano go hunting all the time usually for wild boar and deer.
The first time they offered me raw boar meat I was reluctant to eat it until they assured me it was safe.
Boar are taken in the winter around New Years so as soon as they are shot they start to freeze. The meat has to be sliced thin or it can be a little tough. It is actually pretty tasty.
Deer meat on the other hand is better cooked. It kind of remins me of eating raw liver.

[GomiGirl]

I think that humans are the only species of carnivores that cook their meat prior to consumption.

[jingai]

Food safety in America is atrocious, so don't try it at home. The E-coli and samonela warnings related to eggs, chicken, and beef are real because the US inspection process is a complete joke. In America, 7/100 eggs have samonela. In western Europe, closer to .7/100. Still, do you trust meat-packers with your life anywhere? I'd skip the mammal sashimi.

[Naniwan Kid]

Has anyone read "Fast Food Nation"? I hear that will turn you off of McD's and most processed meat....

I did kinda like the raw horse I ate, and will always order "gyuniku tataki" at an izukaya when they have it.....so far so good!

[katakori]

it was difficult back home to have decent eggs that can be eaten raw. most of the words you can used to make it understandable that they are "clean" have been abused in so many way... here, in kanji, i just have no idea. but still most japanese i know love their eggs slightly raw so the yellow can be mixed with whatever the eggs is served with (rice, soup etc). how can you tell the hens were raised in a place where they don't shit on the same conveyor belt they lay their eggs on?
same question for the chicken : how can you tell they were in a place they could run, they weren't fed chicken bones and medicine, etc?
i'd be very happy to pay more but know that i have something sound in my stomac in the end...

[cstaylor]

I've taken a tour of an egg farm in Chiba... Japanese farms are first class operations. The eggs pass through four inspection cycles between different stages of cleaning... at any one of the four stages bad eggs will be rejected automatically by the system.

FYI: the automation equipment was made in Europe (according to the CEO's son).

[Naniwan Kid]

I understand what you are saying, katakori, and that is why I will never order a hamburger anything but well done, but how will the inside of an egg get exposed to anything? Over easy or over hard, it should be fine....RIGHT?

[katakori]

i'm not completely sure about how the inside of an egg would react to life, but

- there is a fair chance that stuff like bacteria etc would die if the egg was cooked. just like meat.

- mad cow disease was not something anyone could have expected either, for instance. and the idea of feeding an animal with crap in a cage, no light, sometimes removing its beak (to avoid fighting due to the lack of space) etc. cannot make it produce an egg that is healthy.

an egg is already quite an intriguing product by itself, so i'd rather have something "natural".

[katakori]

beside, this is the stuff i get here, and if you're paranoid, it looks very suspicious...



funny thing, in vietnam, most of the time i found only duck eggs for sale in markets, because they keep fresh longer, especially when it's hot...

[mercutio]

I will never order a hamburger anything but well done, but how will the inside of an egg get exposed to anything? Over easy or over hard, it should be fine....RIGHT?

thats not necessarily the problem... when you crack an egg to serve it some of what is on the outside gets pushed inside... and there can be all sorts of little nasties on the outside if it has been properly cleaned... and its possible to miss small cracks that dont let the egg out but have been there a while and make great places for bacteria to hide from the cleaning process

[ramchop]

funny thing, in vietnam, most of the time i found only duck eggs for sale in markets, because they keep fresh longer, especially when it's hot...

Gotta be careful buying duck eggs in VN, you might get a little surprise, yum yum!

[kurohinge1]

I think that humans are the only species of carnivores that cook their meat prior to consumption.

Doggies like cooked meat, but they're all thumbs when it comes to starting the barbie !



Sorry GG, couldn't resist !

[GomiGirl]

Sorry GG, couldn't resist !

But that was my point.. we are the only ones that cook meat before we eat it.. I guess it is the opposable thumbs!!

[kurohinge1]

.. I guess it is the opposable thumbs!!

Or maybe the other carnivores are smart enough to know not to play with fire ...


or microwaves ....