Hafu Professor wins discrimination case

[Bucky]

[bolt_krank]

$500,000 ?
How much do these professors get paid for a job to worth that much.

[AssKissinger]

What a whiny cunt. Too bad someone can't just fuck the uptight white bitch right out of her.

[nottu]

[Yokohammer]

The fact that this occurred in the US makes it interesting. If the same thing occurred in Japan (of course it does ... frequently) and a case was brought to court, how would the Japanese court decide?

A few discrimination suits have been tried in Japanese courts with the ruling in favor of the plaintiff (Debito's sento suit, and the case of the foreign woman who was told she wasn't welcome in a jewelry shop in Hamamatsu come to mind), but the grounds in this case seem to be a little less clear.

[Samurai_Jerk]

The fact that this occurred in the US makes it interesting.

It's also interesting because the offenders were minorities. I don't think I see discrimination suits against minorities too ofter in US news.

[Level3]

It's also interesting because the offenders were minorities. I don't think I see discrimination suits against minorities too ofter in US news.

Don't you know Asians don't count as minorities in the USA, especially Japanese?
They tend to be successful, work hard, and not ask for government handouts.
They don't fit into the template set out by libs full of White Guilt:
"You poor minorities need extra welfare checks, and have no hope, so vote for me. Signed, Your Local Democrat Politician. P.S. Sorry if you can't read this because you're illiterate or have been here for 14+ years, gained citzenship, and still can't speak English. See back for Espanol."

[Mike Oxlong]

As far as I can tell reading the full article, the plantiff won a settlement for the department promotion board basically punishing her for filing a complaint against them for some unfair labor practices. The court found that she was unfairly punished by the board - the board gave her a shorter and non-tenure-track contract - for filing her complaint. One of those named in the suit was a Japanese national, but the others were not. So, she didn't sue a member of a visible minority, rather one of those in the group named in the suit was a visible minority.

[TennoChinko]

Don't you know Asians don't count as minorities in the USA, especially Japanese?
They tend to be successful, work hard, and not ask for government handouts.
They don't fit into the template set out by libs full of White Guilt:
"You poor minorities need extra welfare checks, and have no hope, so vote for me. Signed, Your Local Democrat Politician. P.S. Sorry if you can't read this because you're illiterate or have been here for 14+ years, gained citzenship, and still can't speak English. See back for Espanol."

That kind of puts them in a similar category as Jews albeit on a lower rung:

- Both are considered racial or ethnic 'minorities' but neither qualify for affirmative action or quotas (unless they are applied against them as in academia ... eg. too many Asians).

- Both have groups in society which hate their guts ..sometimes coupled with a few conspiracy theories accusing them of somehow controlling the world, the economy, the media, etc... and at the same time, examples of super-rich super-influential members of society that help sustain those theories.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

The fact that this occurred in the US makes it interesting. If the same thing occurred in Japan (of course it does ... frequently) and a case was brought to court, how would the Japanese court decide?

Considering the fundamental lack of awareness about human rights and the rights of the individual -- that's for the locals, let alone those of us outlanders -- I'd say the chances of winning a case like this are about the same as Japan producing the world's next John Holmes.

[Yokohammer]

... I'd say the chances of winning a case like this are about the same as Japan producing the world's next John Holmes.

John Holmes!! Jeez, you really are old, aren't you!
(Whoops ... I know who he was too ... )

[Kanchou]

I'm 24 and even I got the reference

[Yokohammer]

I'm 24 and even I got the reference

Must have watched a fair amount of classic porn!
(He died in 1988.)

[Kanchou]

No, but people were still making John Holmes jokes in the 90s.

[Greji]

:rofl:

John Holmes!! Jeez, you really are old, aren't you!
(Whoops ... I know who he was too ... )

Who you calling old? John Holmes? Well, I'll admit I taught the boy how to wank, but I don't gotta be a geezer, do I?

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

:rofl:

John Holmes!! Jeez, you really are old, aren't you!
(Whoops ... I know who he was too ... )

You think that's good enough to be old (Holmes is early retirement as far as I was concerned!)?
I can remember wanking to Tallulah Bankhead....(can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning....let alone lunch 10 minutes ago, come to think of it....)

[Greji]

You think that's good enough to be old (Holmes is early retirement as far as I was concerned!)?
I can remember wanking to Tallulah Bankhead....(can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning....let alone lunch 10 minutes ago, come to think of it....)

Tallulah Baby. Now there was a real Johnson jerker. They don't make 'em like that anymore.

Lunch was 10 minutes ago? Are we talking about today, or yesterday?

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Lunch was 10 minutes ago? Are we talking about today, or yesterday?

Ask me what I had for lunch on May 13, 1971, and I'm fine...can remember it clear as hell. Ask me what I did 10 minutes ago, and I couldn't recall it for the life of me.

[Taro Toporific]

...I can remember wanking to Tallulah Bankhead....(can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning)...

My grandmother, bless her heart, took me to see Sally Rand and I got to go backstage---pretty fuckquing cool for a six year old.
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[Samurai_Jerk]

Both are considered racial or ethnic 'minorities' but neither qualify for affirmative action or quotas (unless they are applied against them as in academia ... eg. too many Asians).

Asians actually can qualify for affirmative action depending on the institution and their ethnicity.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Asians actually can qualify for affirmative action depending on the institution and their ethnicity.

I'm so old, I thought affirmative action was something taken by the robot from "Lost in Space."

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

pretty fuckquing cool for a six year old.

That is pretty cool....the only time I thought of getting into anyone else's pants when I was a 6-year-old was immediately after having shit in my own.

[Kanchou]

One of my aunts is convinced she got her teaching job because of her Hispanic-sounding (Hungarian) last name. And it was her married name!

[BO-SENSEI]

I can imagine that the university is less than happy that it had to deal with a discrimination lawsuit, especailly one as messed up as this one. I wouldn't be surprised if the university fired those professors if they haven't already.

[Greji]

I wouldn't be surprised if the university fired those professors if they haven't already.

Not a popular move these days over firings and tenure. Check Alabama for openings.....?

[BO-SENSEI]

Not a popular move these days over firings and tenure. Check Alabama for openings.....?

All psychos aside, if you cost your university $164,000 in a discrimination suit, not to mention the damage to the reputation of the school, you don't have a leg to stand on and its time to go.

[Greji]

All psychos aside, if you cost your university $164,000 in a discrimination suit, not to mention the damage to the reputation of the school, you don't have a leg to stand on and its time to go.

That's what it would see like to me as well, but there sure are a lot of people that have done this and worse and are still gainfully employed at the chagrin of their Universities.....

Look how long it took to get rid of Ward Churchill and all the problems he caused, not only his school in Colorado, but others. There are a lot like that yet, nothing every seems to happen to them. It seems like it's always the little guy that gets stomped on by the school when he raises a question about his rights, or tenure, while the most vocal and extreme of the rabble rousers never get touched.....

[AssKissinger]

Ward Churchill

I didn't realize they finally flushed that turd. Good. Fake Indian bitch.

[yarichin01]

I received a BA in Japanese from the UO in '06 and am currently an grad. student in Linguistics Dept. so I am familiar with the parties involved. There are some serious problems here with Mrs. Rogers claim.

First she is trying to portray herself as someone who was passed over by a less qualified colleague but who could that be? Reiko Hashimoto; a PhD who is probably the best language teacher I have ever seen? Kaori Idemaru; a PhD specialist in Japanese linguistics? Rika Ikei; a graduate of Kyoto U. who has taught at MIT and Cornell? Who was this horribly unqualified Japanese she was passed up for? We want to know.
Could it be that Mrs. Rogers was passed over because she wanted to focus her research attention on the indigenous languages of Taiwan while her colleagues wanted to focus on the language of the department? Yes, that is right. Mrs. Rogers wanted to get paid as teacher/researcher of Japanese language while focusing her research on a completely unrelated subject.

It should also be noted that the UO's Ling. Dept. is of the functional branch while Mrs. Rogers was trained in the formalist approach. This could have also been a factor in this situation.

I think another major whole in her claims is the fact that at that time Nancy Iwakawa (a white American) was a senior instructor in that department. So if Fujii-sensei was such a bigot how was Iwakawa-sensei able to obtain such an achievement?

Could it be that Mrs. Rogers is a whiny little trouble maker that consistently encouraged colleagues and students to file grievances with the university? This is actually the main reason she was pushed out. Not her race but her playing of the race card

I think its funny no one has brought up the issue that Mrs.Rogers may have simply been not a good teacher. All the academic credentials in the world do not make one a good instructor.

[Greji]

".....I think another major whole in her claims is the fact that at that time Nancy Iwakawa (a white American) was a senior instructor in that department. So if Fujii-sensei was such a bigot how was Iwakawa-sensei able to obtain such an achievement?...."

Good post and background YariChin-Chin. Those of us that have been here for a day or two, have seen a lot of these allegations come and go. That is not to say that Japan doesn't have a Lion's share of discrimination incidents, but it is far to easy to make an unsubstantiated (or phony) allegation and claim that it's all "because I'm a gaijin." There are a lot of these. This is too bad, because it is such a shaky area and easy to gain a lot of media attention. When you think about all of the legitimate cases, it only takes one such trumped up, phony allegation by some dipshit to further reinforce the public's opinion, indifference, or out and out prejudices against fgs, which do nothing but set back any legitimate gains we have been lucky enough to gain in this area.

They need to kick her ass out of country, or better yet, send her to Toranomon as penance to do a 3P in the goat pen with Iraira and me officiating.....