How To Argue With Japanese People

[Mulboyne]

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With Hikosaemon & Gakuranman

[Ikemen-of-d00m]

Haha, this is gold! Even though I was only in Japan for 4 months, I really recognise these situations!

When I'm discussing, I always remain clam and listen to what the others have to say. I never appear intimidating.. I don't even look intimidating! Nevertheless, amongst all the Japanese I had a discussion with, no one would ever "dare" to say anything against me. They would never question my arguments or opinions. This really surprised me!

At first I thought they only hesitated, since I'm not fluent in Japanese. But, I was generally good enough to have regular conversations, and I always showed patience when we didn't understand each other, so I don't think this is the reason.

Then it hit me: I was more or less only around girls when I lived in Japan.. I was a member of the soccer and tennis clubs at my University, so I had the possibility to discuss with other guys. But I don't really like to talk when I do sports.

Could this be the reason? Are guys more "straight-forward" when they are discussing?

[Ketou]

[Coligny]

I feel a strawman there... Sounds more to me like western arguing style versus japanese not giving a fuck aboot it style...

Because... I got me the same behaviour at me mechanic... I went knowing what the problem was, what the usual solution was but I wanted for more safety to have a little more than prescribed done. (clicking dogbone). Went with all proprer maker blueprints, clearly highlighted parts than I wanted also to be replaced. And got that "yea yeah, sure, fuck you bakasan" with a winner smile. On my side communication was all cute and polite, just asking for service to be done, nothing conflictual.

And sure as hell they completly fuck up the repair. (changing only the fucking rubber boots).

So to me... it feels more like wapanist propaganda... you're not subtle enough to argue with japanese... while in fact it's more their "we don't give a shit if you're breathing or not you barbarian scums".

[bolt_krank]

I think the tension of an argument owes more to the situation than to the people involved. I've seen westerners and japanese argue in styles that match all 3 types. There wasn't enough of a pattern to suggest a correlation between race a conflict style.

I think the connection might be more "how westerners like to think they are" vs. "how Japanese like to think they are".


I might be missing the point though.