Harassing the homeless in Asakusa

[Samurai_Jerk]

I went the the Asakusa Sanja Matsuri with my girl last night. While I was walking back home through one of the shopping arcades I saw a group of seven or eight jackass Americans who I have to assume where from one of the bases fucking with some elderly homeless person.

First they were lying around him on his box posing for pictures and laughing which was bad enough but when they got up to leave one of them pulled the guy's pants down and they all ran off giggling like a bunch of limp-dick pussies.

Of course I had to call them out. Typical response you'd excpet from one of them who was a short muscle-bound douche bag. He was talking a lot of shit and pretending to let his friend hold him back and telling me I was going to end the night in the hospital. They funny thing is I walked right up to him and told him to stop running his mouth while all he did was stand behind his friends and keep backing up while I kept moving foward. He could have tried to hit me at any point if he really wanted to.

In the end it was probably a good thing that it didn't go anywhere but I really wish he had actually taken a swing at me because I would have come down on him like a ton of bricks. The cool thing which I didn't realize till afterwards when I turned around to get my girlfriend and go was that as I was walking a group of eight or so Italian dudes who were on vacation and some of the old-school Asakusa shop keepers had formed a group and had been walking behind me the whole time. It probably looked to them like I had rounded up a posse or something.

[Behan]

Great for you, SJ!

[Yokohammer]

That's just sick.

I thought the US Military was supposed to be issuing stern warnings about fucking with the natives and causing trouble off base. If they are I guess it isn't working. Of course you don't know for sure that it was military personnel, but you've been around long enough that your grunt radar should be pretty well tuned.

Kudos for calling them out though. Asshole FGs making trouble on the streets are not helping the rest of us out one little bit. They're shitting in our back yard and need to be told so in no uncertain terms. And if the media gets hold of an incident like this they will have a field day at our expense.

Almost wish I'd been there to back you up.

[Samurai_Jerk]

That's just sick.

I thought the US Military was supposed to be issuing stern warnings about fucking with the natives and causing trouble off base. If they are I guess it isn't working. Of course you don't know for sure that it was military personnel, but you've been around long enough that your grunt radar should be pretty well tuned.

I can't be completely sure but usually when I see a group of fresh off the boat Americans in their early 20s that's a mixture of Opie Taylor-looking white kids and wannabe gangsta black kids they're military. The only thing that makes me second guess my assumption is a couple of the white kids' hair was just a little bit too long.

[Yokohammer]

I can't be completely sure but usually when I see a group of fresh off the boat Americans in their early 20s that's a mixture of Opie Taylor-looking white kids and wannabe gangsta black kids they're military. The only thing that makes me second guess my assumption is a couple of the white kids' hair was just a little bit too long.

It really doesn't matter. Asshole FGs like that need to be pulled up no matter where they're from.

Well done.

[Coligny]

It really doesn't matter. Asshole FGs like that need to be pulled up no matter where they're from.

Well done.

Problem is if cops gets involved you'll be in the same shit as the douchebags...

Guys... don't start patrolling the hood in cars with blue beacon light and sort of neighborhood watch yellow stickers on the front doors... It's already enough when the bored locals make it their favorite games...

And no... Mein Nachbar ist kein Jude. stop asking... kthxbye...

Now if you wanna start a holy war on Beemer drivers... I have my pitchfork ready...

[Bucky]

Nothing like ugly Americans spreading goodwill. Good on you, SJ.

[Kaiju]

Do I detect a bit of enmity by the illustrious altruistic 'Expat' community towards U.S. military?

[Yokohammer]

Do I detect a bit of enmity by the illustrious altruistic 'Expat' community towards U.S. military?

Nope, it's enmity towards any FGs who are a public nuisance here. It was noted that the punks in this case appeared to be military types, but it was also made clear that there was no certainty.

Do I detect a trace of scorn for the "illustrious altruistic 'Expat' community"?

[Iraira]

All in all SJ did the right thing. Be it drunk tourists, kids stringing up wires across streets to behead people on motorcycles, or whatever, this crap just reinforces the "gaijin ne....". Actually...and this is me being somewhat hopeful on a Monday morning, by SJ getting involved in this, it shows the locals that some gaijin also see this behavior as fucked.

[Yokohammer]

Problem is if cops gets involved you'll be in the same shit as the douchebags...

Not necessarily. As long as you're not actually busting heads there shouldn't be a problem.

Nobody's calling for vigilante groups to prowl the streets, but if unruly FGs are causing trouble then I see nothing wrong with having a word, if you have the courage. I would (and have in the past). If it was a particularly violent scene I'd simply call the cops myself.

The problem is that there are just too many people and groups who will jump on any opportunity to point out how undesirable foreigners are, and that makes life difficult for those of us who live here. The media seems to be more than happy to promulgate that perception too. Even if it's one homeless guy who learns to hate foreigners through a bad experience like this, it's both wrong and a smear on the rest of us who are trying to live here peacefully.

[TennoChinko]

I totally agree with Y.H.

Do I detect a bit of enmity by the illustrious altruistic 'Expat' community towards U.S. military?

I don't think so. At least not from me. Jackasses should be treated equally.

However, keep in mind if they were either US military or their dependents, in a situation like that, Samurai Jerk could have really screwed them up. Getting the local cops to detain them and a criminal complaint would likely land them in hot water ... SoFA status becomes a liability when their CO or parent's CO has to step in and/or the press gets wind of it. Down in Okinawa, a group of zoomies leaving their car on a private parking lot belonging to an anti-American owner makes the news. A fact that some of these punks driving their parents cars with the Y-plates sometimes forget.

[dimwit]

Nobody's calling for vigilante groups to prowl the streets, but if unruly FGs are causing trouble then I see nothing wrong with having a word, if you have the courage. I would (and have in the past). If it was a particularly violent scene I'd simply call the cops myself.

I've found that helping the police is far more of a pain in the ass than it is worth. I used to teach the cops and I told them about a very dodgey Brit who was on a crime spree, and while they thanked me they also started to make a habit of asking me about foreigners and just about every crime they could think of.

It was an interesting source of gossip but all in all an annoyance.

[Mike Oxlong]

Down in Okinawa, a group of zoomies leaving their car on a private parking lot belonging to an anti-American owner makes the news. A fact that some of these punks driving their parents cars with the Y-plates sometimes forget.

Are you talking about the time a couple years ago a US Navy bus parked at the Naha City Bus Depot 'cause the driver "thought it was a parking lot for buses"?

[AssKissinger]

It's a very very low class of people who join the American military these days. Japan needs to reject these losers asap. Hopefully those involved in this incident will die shortly.

[IkemenTommy]

Good for you SJ.

I completely missed the Sanja Matsuri and all the yakz this year.

[oyajikun]

Good on you SJ! I get steamed with anyone picking on the homeless like that. There is a special place in hell for those types.

[(1VB)freels]

It's a very very low class of people who join the American military these days. Japan needs to reject these losers asap. Hopefully those involved in this incident will die shortly.

Please do not put all of us military members that are actually contributing members of our society into the same category as these dumbasses. You can't just generalize all of us as assholes. Please rethink your thoughts and then speak. Thank you for your support!:nice:

[Mike Oxlong]

Yeah, some of the air force guys are not too bad.

[Behan]

Yeah, some of the air force guys are not too bad.

But for some reason the ex-airforce members of FG are exceptionally bad.

[Greji]

But for some reason the ex-airforce members of FG are exceptionally bad.

You rang?

[Samurai_Jerk]

Actually...and this is me being somewhat hopeful on a Monday morning, by SJ getting involved in this, it shows the locals that some gaijin also see this behavior as fucked.

I think that this was actually the effect. Because the Italian guys were standing behind me, some of the shop keepers assumed we were together (and I guess we were in a sense at that point). After the jackasses left they came up and started shaking some of the Italians' hands and asking where we were from. The fact that we got involved really seemed to impress some of the locals and I think negated most of the "fucking gaijin" feelings that most people probably would have been feeling.

[IkemenTommy]

The fact that we got involved really seemed to impress some of the locals and I think negated most of the "fucking gaijin" feelings that most people probably would have been feeling.

The real question is, were the locals sympathetic towards the homeless from the beginning or did the table turn around when the gaijin factor entered the picture?

[FG Lurker]

The real question is, were the locals sympathetic towards the homeless from the beginning or did the table turn around when the gaijin factor entered the picture?

I don't think the homeless get a lot of sympathy here (which is what I think you are implying), but at the same time no normal person wants to see some minding-his-own-business homeless guy harassed by a gang of kids -- be they FGs or natives.

Kudos to SJ for stepping up.